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Friday, May 27, 2011 2:41 AM

KANEMAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
One last comment Cankersore, before I'm through with you -

"... loan me the 18,000 for bail..." doesn't fit with this "I make more money in one year then (sic) you will make in 10... ". We all know you're pathologically full of bullshit, and so stupid you can't even keep your stories straight. The sad part is, if you had to pick which one you regretted more, I bet you'd regret your meager crumb of honesty more than your ton of lies.


Back to your regularly scheduled program.




Psst...hey stupid. I wasn't really asking you to borrow $18000 I was being a smart ass. I am sure I make more than.. you just with my honest living. You are a sockpuppet. I post my criminal record, fb, myspace, and other things....so, who is the fake and the liar? She is very happy that I got the attorney. Yes, i spend more partying in a year than you make. should I save more...maybe. But that is not how I live. Could I pay for both? Yes. Would it make my checking account sad...yep. So, I did what I think is best, she is forever great-full that I stood by her...seeing her family won't...and I look forward to the most nauseatingly awesome filthy payback sex man has ever witnessed. She is going to move back in and I will have my own sex-slave(before you shit your pants...she is all for it, was her idea...she is joking of course, but I get what she is saying).....and trust me when I say she is such a freak now, that 97.35% of men could not handle her as it stands....I had better start eating my veggies Marilyn is a beast.

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Friday, May 27, 2011 4:10 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Please don't feed the trolls.

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Friday, May 27, 2011 4:57 AM

HARDWARE


Quote:

Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:

It seems to me that most Americans who own weapons do so for personal protection or recreation and very little to do with being part of a militia or prevention of tyranny. And those who do want to be part of militias seem like very strange and scary dudes who suffer from paranoia.



Yes, here's a post from a different board on the recent actions of the Missouri Militia. Terrifying! I'm sure they want to overthrow the government!!!111!!!

http://manlyexcellence.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=17690

The more I get to know people the more I like my dogs.

...and he that has no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. Luke 22:36

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Friday, May 27, 2011 5:39 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg


Hehehe ....baiting Kwicko is certainly a cheap thrill....

In any case.

It has been proven (by the FBI no less) that the areas with the LEAST amount of violent crime are areas with most LEGAL gun-ownership.

In the areas where the people are prvented, thru outrageous "laws" from owning weapons.. the crime rate is much higher.

I can personally attest to the East Coast, never been to the West. But, places like D.C., Maryland, Boston, Baltimore, NY and NJ are some of the worst hives of scum and villany.

A few fun examples right from the heart of D.C.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/mar/29/man-mugged-national-ma
ll
/

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Metro-Seeks-Publics-Help-Inves
tigating-LEnfant-Beating-113091484.html



(Now, keep in mind, these are the NICE places in DC... SE is a whole other animal)

I doubt anyone here would, or even could, argue that gun control works. But I'd be interested to hear some try.



"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"



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Friday, May 27, 2011 9:04 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg


Just a little FYI.

You know why the "gun issue" is so important to me?

Its the end of the line. The last issue to stand on.

Without these tools, these means of self-defense... we are helpless.

We are slaves to those that want to do us harm, to make us obey, to control us.

With them, we can definativly, and loudly, say "NO!"

So I always wonder about those who want curb that ability, or to take it away.

Who are they? What kind of people are they?

Because, if I'm right... and these weapons allow us to say no... then they are the ones who wish nothing but to submit.

But to whom? And why?

Keeps me awake at night, actually.

Who and what, are the kinds of people that WANT someone else to dictate their lives. Or if they live at all.

How can these types freely, and willingly, bend over and welcome that rape of their self-determination?

WHO are they, where do they come from? Where did they learn this kind of subserviance?

ETA:

I have railed against the baby-boomers, the hippies, the progressives, the liberals...

But it occurs to me, they are what they made themselves.

They fought against what they saw as an oppressive system. They fought against their parents. They fought against all religion.

Now they yearn for a parental figure. They think that government can be that.

And they are willing, EAGER even, to prostrate themselves to it.


Well. As any GenXr can tell you... since we ended up raising not only ourselves, but our parents...

FUCK YOU.



"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"



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Friday, May 27, 2011 5:20 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


WULF-

I was hoping to get past the "Nobody better try taking my guns away from me!" thought and move on to the nature of rights in general... whether they are natural part of our condition, come from god, or are a social construct...

Talk about which rights we believe are really fundamental...

Whether those rights apply to everyone, even illegal immigrants, gang-bangers and possible terrorists....

Decide how best to keep those rights alive.


Seems like that would be a lot more interesting.

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Friday, May 27, 2011 6:04 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


But Sig, Wulfie already admitted that he never cared about any other rights. He never cared a bit, UNTIL he decided that this last one right, THAT he'd get concerned about.

He never noticed that once you lose all the others, there's nothing left to defend with your guns. As he's admitted himself, he was "asleep" through all the preamble, all the stuff leading up to what he fervently hopes is his one big Arm-ageddon!

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Friday, May 27, 2011 6:05 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Wulfenstar:


I can personally attest to the East Coast, never been to the West. But, places like D.C., Maryland, Boston, Baltimore, NY and NJ are some of the worst hives of scum and villany.






And it's just a coincidence that you happen to be from that area, huh? Scum and villainy, indeed.

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Friday, May 27, 2011 6:19 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Just a little FYI.

You know why the "gun issue" is so important to me?

Its the end of the line. The last issue to stand on.

Without these tools, these means of self-defense... we are helpless.



Not all of us are helpless without guns. Brains are the better weapon. I understand that you come unarmed into that arena, though.

Quote:


We are slaves to those that want to do us harm, to make us obey, to control us.

With them, we can definativly, and loudly, say "NO!"



Not that you ever WOULD, of course. I mean, you haven't yet, have you? Despite all your cries of "monkeys", "animals" and "tyranny", you haven't done a single thing about any of it, or with your life.

Quote:


So I always wonder about those who want curb that ability, or to take it away.

Who are they? What kind of people are they?



Probably not the kind who say, "Once we take those areas back, they deserve whatever they get!" That seems to be a uniquely you, uniquely psychopathic gun-freak mindset.

Quote:


Because, if I'm right... and these weapons allow us to say no... then they are the ones who wish nothing but to submit.



Or they have other ways of saying "No".

Quote:

But to whom? And why?

Keeps me awake at night, actually.

Who and what, are the kinds of people that WANT someone else to dictate their lives. Or if they live at all.



I'd worry more about who and what the people are who want to dictate someone else's life. Like you've said you want to do. "They deserve whatever they get", after all.

Quote:


How can these types freely, and willingly, bend over and welcome that rape of their self-determination?



And how can you and your buddies so willingly bend people over and rape them, claiming they deserve it? By your own words, anyone who isn't armed is asking for it, right? Right?


Quote:


I have railed against the baby-boomers, the hippies, the progressives, the liberals...



Your parents, the government, your teachers, anyone who has tried to help you in any way...

Quote:


But it occurs to me, they are what they made themselves.



It occurs to me that you are nothing more. And a good deal less.

Quote:


They fought against what they saw as an oppressive system. They fought against their parents. They fought against all religion.



So did you. You still ARE fighting against it, everything you feel has let you down, and everyone you ever trusted.

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Now they yearn for a parental figure. They think that government can be that.


You've hinted that you despised your mother and hated your (absentee) father. Sounds to me like you're using your beloved "militia buddies" as your surrogate parents.

Quote:


And they are willing, EAGER even, to prostrate themselves to it.



And you, on the other hand, are willing - even EAGER - to DIE for the propaganda you've sold yourself on. You've built up your own masturbatory hero-fantasy in your head, where you're the star of your own blockbuster movie. Only you haven't realized that there's no script, no director, and no film in the camera. This is no blockbuster; it's not even a movie!

Quote:


Well. As any GenXr can tell you... since we ended up raising not only ourselves, but our parents...

FUCK YOU.



Wow, that religion and love of humanity really shines through, don't it?


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Friday, May 27, 2011 8:16 PM

KANEMAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
WULF-

I was hoping to get past the "Nobody better try taking my guns away from me!" thought and move on to the nature of rights in general... whether they are natural part of our condition, come from god, or are a social construct...

Talk about which rights we believe are really fundamental...

Whether those rights apply to everyone, even illegal immigrants, gang-bangers and possible terrorists....

Decide how best to keep those rights alivre

Seems like that would be a lot more interesting.
[/QUOT



You need to get laid...u r way too serious...think about that. Fuck first...argue later...relax.

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Saturday, May 28, 2011 4:36 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


Whenever this gun debate takes place, I feel like I don't only live in another country, but another REALITY.

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Saturday, May 28, 2011 5:05 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


WULF, you are so driven by anger than anger is driving YOU.

When someone is so possessed by a single motivation force, it is no longer possible to make intelligent decisions. Word of advice... take a deep breath, try to let out some of that PTSD.

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Thursday, June 2, 2011 6:33 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg




"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"



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Thursday, June 2, 2011 8:22 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Five days to reply, and all he can come up with is someone else's video.

I'm shocked. ;)


"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Thursday, June 2, 2011 3:21 PM

RIONAEIRE

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In OR we have concealed carry, which is fine with me, I definitely feel that people need to be allowed to carry their guns with them if they want just in case, for protection of themselves, theirs or someone else. We don't have open carry as far as I know and that's okay with me, if we did I don't think my life would be any different and it wouldn't bother me, either way is fine with me.

Kaneman, your current partier rut slut story is way more believable than your black chick from Tanzania story, better choice. :)

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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