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FBI loses all evidence in OK City false-flag attack

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Friday, July 8, 2011 9:33 PM

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The FBI has not found videotapes from the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing that are being sought by a Utah lawyer and do not believe another records search is reasonable or will uncover the information, the agency has told a federal judge.

FBI officials are "unaware of the existence or likely location of additional tapes" that would fulfill the Freedom of Information Act request filed by Salt Lake City attorney Jesse Trentadue, agency attorneys said in court papers filed last week.

Trentadue sued the FBI and the CIA in 2008 to get the videos and contended the FBI's efforts to locate the information have been inadequate. He is looking for surveillance tapes taken the morning of the bombing from exterior cameras on the Murrah building and dashboard camera video from the Oklahoma Highway Patrol's arrest of Timothy McVeigh. McVeigh was convicted of and executed for the bombing.

Trentadue asserts that the videos exist and will expose that others were involved in the domestic terrorist attack that killed 168 people.

But attorneys for the agency said the electronic databases have not turned up the records, nor have manual searches of FBI crime labs, evidence centers or a warehouse in Oklahoma City. A further search of a records cache totaling an estimated 450,000 documents — from just the first 14 days of the investigation — in the warehouse would be "unreasonably burdensome" and could take a single staff person more than 18 months to conduct, court papers said.

The conclusions were included in a court-ordered explanation of the FBI's response to the records request. U.S. District Judge Clark Waddoups had ordered the agency to provide a detailed explanation of its records search last month.

The judge will consider the response in deciding whether the FBI complied with federal information laws in Trentadue's case. It was not clear when the judge might rule.

Trentadue said in an email to The Associated Press that the government's explanations don't provide any new information.
"In short, nothing but more of the same institutionalized dishonesty, deception and disrespect for the Constitution," Trentadue wrote.

Trentadue also said the explanation downplayed the purpose of various FBI electronic databases and that a declaration from an FBI official in charge of FOIA responses conflicted with former agents and officers who have provided information in the case.

"The key thing to me is they don't say (the tapes) don't exist," Trentadue said. "I think my job now will be to poke holes in the response and lay out what I think are inaccuracies or misleading statements."

Government attorneys contend they've more than met the requirements of federal law. They said Trentadue has used "shifting arguments, inaccurate assertions and exhibits of questionable value" to support allegations that the bureau has operated in bad faith.

Trentadue's inquiry into the bombing was prompted by the death of his brother, Kenneth Trentadue, at the Oklahoma City Federal Transfer Center in August of that year. He claimed that his brother, a convicted bank robber, was mistaken for a bombing suspect and beaten during an interrogation by officers.

His brother was a close physical match for a bombing suspect and that the evidence he's seeking from the FBI may prove that, Jesse Trentadue said.

Kenneth Trentadue's death was officially considered a suicide, but his body had 41 wounds and bruises that his brother believes were the result of a beating. A judge awarded his family $1.1 million in damages for extreme emotional distress in the government's handling of the death.

The CIA portion of Trentadue's case, which also included requests for possible involvement of foreign nationals in the bombing, was dismissed by Waddoups in March 2010.

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Saturday, July 9, 2011 12:27 AM

FREMDFIRMA

Yanno, instead of asking a pack of assholes with no reason to comply with FOIA and every reason not to...

He'd do better asking various data monkeys and signal pirates who grab stuff like that to make sure it doesn't disappear down the memory hole.

I'm pretty damn sure Rivero might have em, or at least excerpts and copies, and he's rational enough to ask, whereas Jones wouldn't admit it even if he did unless it bought him airtime or something, goddamn media whore.

I mean, why ask the very shitheads TRYING to bury them for copies, when the muckrakers are more likely to cooperate, AND getting copies from them would prove out that either the alphabet boys do have em and lied about it, or destroyed em and lied about that.
Heaven knows they've lied about every other aspect of this.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Saturday, July 9, 2011 9:18 AM

BYTEMITE

I can't decide if the reason they built that "superintelligence" center to monitor electronic signals out here is because Utahans are compliant or if they see us as a potential problem group.

In any case, it makes me a little proud to see someone from around here demanding government service, that they do their job and don't lose important footage for whatever reasons.

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Saturday, July 9, 2011 10:13 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Why is it that everything from OK City to 9/11 is a " false flag " ? Where's any of that evidence ?

And who are the so called 'winners' of these orchestrated events ?

All these conspiracy nut case ideas, never really seem to pan out - in the least.

What was the big pay off for the OK city bombing ?

What of 9/11 ? How'd that end up for Bush ? Where's the BIG pay off, that other wise would not have been, were it not for these events ?

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Saturday, July 9, 2011 10:15 AM

BYTEMITE

Why do you ask questions that you already know how people are going to answer?

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Saturday, July 9, 2011 11:04 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:

And who are the so called 'winners' of these orchestrated events ?

The “War On Terror” Is A $6 Trillion Racket, Exceeding The Total Cost Of World War II
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=25531

Strategic Threat Assessment Matrix concluded that 7/7 was an inside job on BBC TV
http://www.infowars.com/police-intelligence-analyst-fired-for-blowing-
whistle-on-false-flag-terror/

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Saturday, July 9, 2011 11:40 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Quote:
Originally posted by Bytemite:
Why do you ask questions that you already know how people are going to answer?

No one has answered, yet. PN's clownish replies don't count, as he's not a real person.Not anyone who matters.

I'm asking those who THINK, to logically elaborate and stop yammering on about what Bush knew, and use their brains. For once.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Saturday, July 9, 2011 11:51 AM

BYTEMITE

Okay... Why would any one want to answer what is obvious bait?

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Saturday, July 9, 2011 12:00 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Quote:
Originally posted by Bytemite:
Okay... Why would any one want to answer what is obvious bait?

The point is, there IS no end game. The risk to those who may committed these acts far out weighs the reward. Money is made when ever there's a catastrophic even, whether it's a tsunami or a war. " SOMEONE " is going to do the heavy lifting, and they're going to have to be paid for it. So there's no evidence, what so ever, that 9/11 was an 'inside job', any more than there's evidence that the 9.0 quake in Japan was rigged by someone as well.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Saturday, July 9, 2011 12:07 PM

BYTEMITE

Well, logically speaking, one weak point in an argument does not invalidate an entire argument, and neither does a logical argument count as evidence for or against anything.

Some of us happen to take a pretty dim view of the human race, and think that there are some people out there who feel whether they can get away with murder or not is just a game to them.

Also, there's a difference between speculation on the circumstantial, and something that is physically impossible.

But, no, you're right in that Bush probably didn't know anything.

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Saturday, July 9, 2011 12:17 PM

FREMDFIRMA

I've already answered it, and to folk who asked far better questions than you.
And when they chose to dismiss, deny and stoop to insult, then posted direct evidence relating to the other planted devices and a material study by experts acknowledged on both sides which effectively showed that a truck based ANFO device could not have done the damage.
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=18&t=40163

But of course, you know this, since you were here, and are just spouting bullshit, as usual.

The intention was that the building came down, and it looked like the truckbomb was responsible, which didn't happen due to the failure of several of the devices to go off - just as the intention in 1993 was that the WTC come down from the bomb the feds gave Ramzi Yousself and Khalid Shiek Mohammed, either of which would have served to open the door for tyranny had they worked, but they had to wait till 9/11 to get their damn pre-written and waiting in the wings Patriot Act passed.

Make of ALL the rest of it what you will, but I can assure you of two facts not whatever in dispute, by *ANYBODY*, that are enough to make any normal person go "WTF!?"

Yes, the FBI *gave* two known terrorists a live bomb AND an expert to wire it up in 1993 and ALLOWED them to set it off despite knowing their plans in advance.
Go on, explain that one to me, I wanna see you try.

Two, the Patriot Act was pre-written and standing by for submission, having been written in May 2001 mostly by the very bastard running to defend your buddy Murdoch, what a coinky-dink, eh ?
So explain why someone would crank out a 400 page piece of legislation specifically to address a particular event which hadn't happened yet ?

You MIGHT be able to clobber together some rational explaination for the latter, but the former - oh I would loooove to see you TRY.

Go on, explain to me why the Feds gave Ramzi a bomb....

-Frem
I do not serve the Blind God.

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Saturday, July 9, 2011 12:24 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

It's not just about Bush, or Cheney, or anyone specific, but more about being an intelligent, observant skeptic, and being able to think for yourself.

And Frem, go take your meds. You're grip on reality is slipping again.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Saturday, July 9, 2011 12:36 PM

FREMDFIRMA

Yeah, just keep digging yourself in, Moron.

You wanna answer why the FBI felt the need to give two known terrorists, whos intentions were well known, a live bomb and an expert to wire it up, and then somehow managed to let them set it off ?
That this happened is not whatever in any doubt.

The only question remaining is WHY.
Lets see you explain it, since you think you're so smart.

Or you can jam your fingers in your ears and deny deny deny, or run like a bitch, as usual.
No matter to me, cause at this point you'll wind up looking like a moron no matter what you do, and worse, an incompetent one.

Frem
the key to handling obvious bait is to turn the hook around.

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Saturday, July 9, 2011 12:49 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Quote:
That this happened is not whatever in any doubt.

Maybe if you doubled up on your dosage, that might help.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Sunday, July 10, 2011 12:15 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:

Maybe if you doubled up on your dosage, that might help.

Did Limbaugh tell you that? Don't listen to him -he's amazingly unreliable, especially when it comes to drug recommendations.

Put down the Oxycontin and Viagra cocktails, Rappy.

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Thursday, March 23, 2023 9:03 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

Episode 305 - The Secret Life of Timothy McVeigh
https://www.corbettreport.com/episode-305-the-secret-life-of-timothy-m
cveigh/

The Violent History of Waco, the Infamous Site of Trump's Next Rally
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/violent-history-waco-infamous-trumps-2
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Waco: American Apocalypse review – gunfights, dying FBI agents … and zero analysis
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2023/mar/22/waco-american-apo
calypse-review-netflix

and since Mike Rivero was mentioned

https://www.republicbroadcastingarchives.org/category/michael-rivero/

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