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Tuesday, July 19, 2011 8:01 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


I remember we wondered about other massive fish deaths before, and thought you might find this interesting:
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League City’s South Shore Harbour Marina, the Kemah Boardwalk area and part of Dickinson Bayou, were covered with thousands of dead fish this weekend.

Early Saturday morning South Shore Harbour residents in League City, TX, noticed dead shad, carp, flounder and crabs in their marina waters.

Locals started reporting to Texas Parks and Wildlife, observing an estimated ten thousand Gulf menhaden, commonly known as shad, floating in the South Shore Harbour Marina, Kemah-Galveston Bay area and in Dickinson Bayou.

According to the Galveston Daily News, out of Galveston Texas, Texas Parks and Wildlife Marine Biologist, William Denton, said that fish die because of a lack of oxygen, caused by an overabundance of algae, which produce oxygen when it’s sunny. Clouds came following Saturday’s long-awaited rains, in the drought-stricken area, shutting down the algae and the shad quickly became oxygen-starved.

Some bodies of water, like Dickinson Bayou have naturally low levels of dissolved oxygen and the six- month-long heat wave worsened the conditions, because, warm water holds less oxygen than cold.

Massive fish kills have been occurring in Galveston Bay since May. South Shore (of Clear Lake) Harbour , which empties in Clear Lake, then Galveston Bay, started experiencing massive fish deaths the weekend of July 15th.

The U.S.Fish and Wildlife website describes the shad, the Gulf menhaden, as a species that is susceptible to massive deaths from pollution and disease, because they do not react like other fish to lower oxygen levels and swim away, and move in much larger groups than other fish.

Shad are important commercially and ecologically as food for other fish when they are young.

http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-636859?hpt=hp_bn1

Still, with massive fish deaths being reported in many places, and birds falling out of the sky, it's only one possibility, as I see it.

New York:
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Dead fish are washing up on the shores of Owasco and Cayuga lakes in unusually high numbers
http://auburnpub.com/news/local/article_c1e40ee0-a2c7-11e0-85bf-001cc4
c002e0.html


Kansas:
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Fishermen reeling in dead fish at Veterans Lake
http://www.ksn.com/content/news/bureaus/story/Fishermen-reeling-in-dea
d-fish-at-Veterans-Lake/l5E6bO8lRkS3LUlaNcp3YQ.cspx


Florida:
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Dead fish wash ashore on Pensacola Beach
http://www.pnj.com/article/20110702/NEWS01/107020338/Dead-fish-wash-as
hore-Pensacola-Beach?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE


Maryland:
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An estimated 100,000 dead Atlantic menhaden washed ashore....
www.delmarvanow.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2011110606014

Arkansas:
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....it was reported that there were 4,000 blackbrids drop dead from the sky. And with the following reports there were 100,000 fish found dead in the Arkansas River which is 125 miles away from the dead birds incident.
http://topgelato.com/100000-fish-dead-after-4000-blackbirds-dropped-fr
om-the-sky/15452


California:
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Millions of dead fish in Redondo’s King Harbor
http://www.easyreadernews.com/21403/dead-fish-photos/

All within the past six months. Maybe this is normal, but if not, kinda makes you wonder...

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Tuesday, July 19, 2011 10:00 AM

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It does make me wonder.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Tuesday, July 19, 2011 11:52 AM

DREAMTROVE


In two words: Un Likely.

Fish are undoubtedly dying from pollution of some sort. Not Algae blooms, which have existed forever. When the co2 rose to 7700ppm, it had no effect whatsoever on the fish populations.


That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

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Tuesday, July 19, 2011 12:23 PM

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" pollution ". That's been around for a while too. And why are the deaths seemingly so selective ? A bunch of 1 kind of fish here, a flock of these types of birds over there...

As Jayne said... " don't make no sense "




" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Tuesday, July 19, 2011 3:24 PM

DREAMTROVE


pollution in general, yes, but that's like saying weapons have been around for a long time, and a sword never leveled a city so Hirosima must have been hit by a comet.

The megadoses of haloalkanes we see from fracking put into the groundwater or air, 60,000 gallons oer location time 16-18 hits is a million. More or less. So the first million hit haloalkane to hit the US was the BP oil spill, and the use of one million gallons of "corexit." then, directly afterwards, we saw massive die offs related to the incident.

Fracking claims to have been around for 60 years, but that's just not reality. Sure, using water has been, but fracking based wells are about ten years old, and chemical fracking using haloalkanes has only been around for a couple years.

Basically, these are chemical weapons, CFCs, or as we called them in the Bush years WMDs. And I say this to you in all sincerity because you are also a military mind. If you care about america, she is under attack. That's why animals and people are dying.




It's not a war if no one fights back.

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Wednesday, July 20, 2011 7:20 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Everything DT said. One might also take into consideration quantities over time. The earth can "clean" a lot of things, but when it keeps getting dumped on in enormous amounts (and the amount keeps growing), sooner or later it overtakes her ability to "fix" it.


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off



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Wednesday, July 20, 2011 7:57 AM

DREAMTROVE


agreement, again, this is becoming eery

Yes, the thing that I think a lot of people miss on the "Earth can heal" is, yes, sure, it can, but it takes time, and we, as humans, would like the earth to primarily remain as a place we can enjoy, and survive in as a species. If you do something that takes ten thousand years to correct, it won't be fixed in our life times, and it might do in the species, if it's around to be toxic to humans for ten thousand years.

The anti-conservationists seem to mentally put themselves and "the earth" in different places, as if the two are not connected. Sure. Many people live in cities, and I pity them, but they still get their livelihood out of nature. They eat food, and they probably like eating food. They probably like food that is grown and not synthesized protein ration pellets.

Also, they conume water, and something people aren't getting is that they don't just drink it, they bathe in it, shower, wash their clothes, go swimming, and it's in your food, but more than that, the number one way you take in water is you Breathe it. This is the thing I didn't get until they started taking about how the haloalkane CFCs got into my sisters system was that they were a) in the water supply, and b) that she inhaled them, rather than drank them.

Now return in your minds to Dimmock Pennsylvania. I'm sure you've all seen these people with the thousand gallon white plastic tubs in their garages of clean water trucked in by the gas companies. Okay, that takes care of their water consumption, even if it's a terrible way to live, water rations delivered by the corporation that poisoned your water (watch them take it away if yiu ever try to fight them) but it doesn't solve the problem: they still have to breathe.


That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

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Wednesday, July 20, 2011 8:21 AM

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Upon further review, and for lack of a better excuse...

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Dead fish cleared from Piedmont Park's lake

Estate Management Services, the company that manages the lake for the city parks department, said last week's big drop in temperatures caused algae to bloom, depriving certain fish of oxygen, Channel 2 Action News reported. The city, however, is still waiting for the official report from the company, said Sharon Davis, spokeswoman for the City of Atlanta.

A similar phenomenon occurred about two years ago, when Piedmont was overwhelmed with the odor of dead fish just days before a Paul McCartney concert at the park. The Piedmont Park Conservancy got volunteers to help scoop up the fish.

"I cannot tell you how many fish died over the weekend but it is nothing in comparison to 2009,” Davis said.

Staff writer David Ibata contributed to this report.






" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Thursday, July 21, 2011 11:47 AM

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One thing that DT and I seem to agree on a lot is taking care of the earth and how that should be done, looks like Niki agrees too. That's a nice feeling. DT seems to know a lot about the issue.

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