Tea party less popular than atheists and Muslims by SignyM

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Frem, I remember that "argument". I found it very interesting, especially in how strongly some felt about it and how contentious it got.

Mike, if you lump all prisons as "concentration camps", and you figure history into the equation, we've got far FEWER of those than other countries throughout history. I accept calling Gitmo one, tho' there's a gigantic difference between them and Nazi concentration camps, and certainly you could call what was done to the Japanese here in California "concentration camps" (tho', again, there's no comparison), but prisons? There's a whole lot wrong with them--especially the very concept of prison-for-profit, but they're not concentration camps, by a long shot. The ones Frem has battled are closer to the definition, in my opinion.

Frem, I can wait for the goodies, last thing I want is you out there hobbling around in a storm! And keep that puppy dry, a good one is worth its weight in gold! You won't mind, I hope, if I wait with much anticipation, however, will 'ya?

Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off

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Thursday, August 25, 2011 8:12 AM

FREMDFIRMA

Well, it takes in avi format at 640x480, which is a kinda largish format and I dunno (yet) how to convert it to a cleaner format like MP4 and reduce the filesize, but I got a clip of Kallista counter-browsing, kinda sorta, as a test shot I can send.

-F

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Thursday, August 25, 2011 8:16 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important

Hello Frem,

If you need something converted to a smaller format, and you can get it to me, I'd be happy to take care of it.

--Anthony

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“If you are not free to choose wrongly and irresponsibly, you are not free at all”

Jacob Hornberger

“Freedom is not worth having if it does not connote freedom to err. It passes my comprehension how human beings, be they ever so experienced and able, can delight in depriving other human beings of that precious right.”

Mahatma Gandhi

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Thursday, August 25, 2011 8:27 AM

FREMDFIRMA

Yeah, but I'd rather know how myself - not that I ain't touched by your offer of assistance, but since I shall also be using this in a work-related fashion and at some point may have to process vid uptake as evidence, chain of custody issues arise, yadda yadda, so knowing the how would be of much more use - ain't like I don't have the PC power for it, considering my comp will stomp an Alienware Aurora into the ground....

And I use it to play retro games, lol - makes Rev wanna tear his hair out, heh.

I'll send ya the clip anyways just for your own amusement.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Friday, August 26, 2011 2:38 AM

Keep the Shiny side up

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
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"BTW, has Walker created 250,000 jobs in his first term?"

Well, gosh, if he had bothered to look, which he obviously didn't b/c that might be too honest, he would have found that the answer ...

Sorry, but you can't find that answer, since Gov. Walker's first term is far from over.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Friday, August 26, 2011 2:47 AM

Keep the Shiny side up

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Originally posted by Niki2:
Oooo, I was so tickled to see the video and text on Boehner's website, I completely missed the bottom. It was a press release, apparently, from Boehner's OFFICE, and the bottom half says
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BACKGROUND: REPUBLICANS MAKE “WHERE ARE THE JOBS?” PART OF THE NATIONAL LEXICON

Wow. It looks just like a qoute from all the Democratic pundits and bloggers you posted above saying "Where are the jobs, Republicans?"

And BTW, where are the jobs the President and Democrats promised in 2008? They've had since January 2009, and for two years a majority in both houses. Hardly seems fair to give the Republicans a hard time for not creating jobs in seven months when the Dems have had so little success in 31 months.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Friday, August 26, 2011 4:08 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important

Hello,

I will confirm this once I receive the clip to work with, but I believe the distasteful (but free) Windows Live Movie Maker will be able to incorporate the clip and publish as a movie to any size desired.

If I can get it to work, I'll give you the skinny. It'll be easy. Maybe a two-step.

--Anthony

_______________________________________________

“If you are not free to choose wrongly and irresponsibly, you are not free at all”

Jacob Hornberger

“Freedom is not worth having if it does not connote freedom to err. It passes my comprehension how human beings, be they ever so experienced and able, can delight in depriving other human beings of that precious right.”

Mahatma Gandhi

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Friday, August 26, 2011 6:22 AM

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Geezer, you are getting truly pathetic in reaching for SOME kind of out. Something that comes from John Boehner's own office, posted in huge letters on his WEBSITE, is

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just like a qoute from all the Democratic pundits and bloggers you posted above saying "Where are the jobs, Republicans?"

That's truly pathetic. I responded to your question; you didn't like the sources; I showed it's the claim made by Boehner HIMSELF (isn't he the head of some Republican group in the legislature somewhere?) showing the same thing; THAT's yourr esponse? Wow.

We're not discussing previous situations. We're talking about the current Republicans, who were elected on their major claim that they would create jobs, which they have not done. THAT is the issue.

Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
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Friday, August 26, 2011 7:37 AM

STORYMARK

God... Boehner is repeating Democrat talking point now? That's the old man's defense?

Wow. I think it might be time to up the meds.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Saturday, August 27, 2011 4:26 AM

Keep the Shiny side up

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Originally posted by Niki2:
Something that comes from John Boehner's own office, posted in huge letters on his WEBSITE, is
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just like a qoute from all the Democratic pundits and bloggers you posted above saying "Where are the jobs, Republicans?"

Exactly.

Read the Boehner statements again. Where in them does he propose that the Republicans are going to create jobs?

Nowhere.

Instead, the statements ask again and again, "Where are the jobs the president promised in exchange for the billions of dollars already spent?”

It's a series of attacks on the Democrats for not providing jobs, as their National platform promises in the first section. http://www.workinglife.org/storage/users/4/4/images/111/2008%20democra
tic%20platform%20080808.pdf

In that way, it's the mirror image of the liberal pundits you quoted earlier up the thread complaining that Republicans haven't created jobs.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Saturday, August 27, 2011 5:11 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

"Sorry, but you can't find that answer, since Gov. Walker's first term is far from over."

That's true. But you can look to see which way things are going.

It's a little like standing on the tracks and watching a train come at you. Maybe it will derail. Maybe it will dump sand, halt and reverse. Maybe aliens will suck it off the tracks. Maybe it will get hit with a nuclear bomb and vaporize. What will happen is not 100% certain. But in all likelihood, it will come down the tracks in your direction. So what should you do?

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Saturday, August 27, 2011 5:40 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

So Geezer, are you saying that Republicans have NO INTEREST in JOBS???

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Saturday, August 27, 2011 6:16 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Saw this on Facebook:

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Remember when teachers, public employees, Planned Parenthood, NPR and PBS crashed the stock market, wiped out half of our 401Ks, took trillions in taxpayer funded bailouts, spilled oil in the Gulf of Mexico, gave themselves billions in bonuses, and paid no taxes?

Yeah, me neither....

Pass it on.

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Saturday, August 27, 2011 6:33 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Saw this on Facebook:

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Remember when teachers, public employees, Planned Parenthood, NPR and PBS crashed the stock market, wiped out half of our 401Ks, took trillions in taxpayer funded bailouts, spilled oil in the Gulf of Mexico, gave themselves billions in bonuses, and paid no taxes?

Pass it on.

* Teachers are paid $400,000/year, takes 20 years and $1.5-million to fire 1 teacher

* Cops are paid $200,000/year to rob citizens at gunpoint and cities must file bankruptcy to terminate police union contracts

* Planned Parenthood was paid $1-billion by the taxslaves to genocide 100-million US citizens

* NPR and PBS are paid billions by the taxslaves for propaganda and to overthrow community radio and TV

* Obama exempted BP from paying damages in the Gulf by having taxslaves pay that debt, and gave BP all the oil in Iraq and Alaska for export to Communist China.

* The $35-trillion bankster bailouts for the jews came from Demorats and Republicons in Congress and White House

* Demorats and Republicons have perped treason by allowing a private foreign jew bank to counterfeit all so-called "dollars" and steal all fed income taxes.

* Demorats have perped treason by refusing to enforce immigration laws against 50-million criminal aliens and paying them billions in welfare and Social Security (even when they paid zero in SS taxes and never worked in USA).

Ron Paul is the founder and only member of the Tea Party

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Saturday, August 27, 2011 7:03 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Now, now PN. Even YOU know that most of your "points" are patently false! Hell, we even went so far as to post a list of actual teachers salaries not too long ago!

And while I WISH it were true that Ron Paul WAS the only TP member, the sad reality is that the TP is filled with lunatic racist fundamentalists.

Sorry dude.

Ron Paul has some good ideas, but the right-wing of the GOP has turned into an asylum for ppl who can't tolerate reality.

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Saturday, August 27, 2011 7:15 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Now, now PN. Even YOU know that most of your "points" are patently false! Hell, we even went so far as to post a list of actual teachers salaries not too long ago!

And while I WISH it were true that Ron Paul WAS the only TP member, the sad reality is that the TP is filled with lunatic racist fundamentalists.

Sorry dude.

Ron Paul has some good ideas, but the right-wing of the GOP has turned into an asylum for ppl who can't tolerate reality.

Every point I made is true, proven by 100s of corporate news articles and government press releases on govt websites.

It's amazing that USA is in the middle of a Civil War, with mass slaughter in American streets and foreign powers overthrowing USA, yet sheeple keep following the pied pipers of propaganda into the death camps. Guess that fluoride was a good investment for the stinking Jew World Odor.

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Saturday, August 27, 2011 8:16 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Umm... you post "the Zionist Magazine" as some sort of MSM? That's a little like me pointing to "the Onion" as a source of news!

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Sunday, August 28, 2011 6:23 AM

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Oh, Geezer...you work so HARD at trying to weasel out of everything, it makes me almost sad for you...almost. The JOHN BOEHNER WEBSITE front page reads: "Video: From Party Mantra To National Rallying Cry, “Where Are The Jobs?” Further down, are NOTHING BUT a list of incidents of Republicans "asking, ‘Where are the jobs?’”; "repeating the refrain: ‘Where are the jobs?’”; "Republican campaign argument" (note it doesn't say "one of"); "taunted Obama with a familiar refrain: Where are the jobs "; "Republicans, who have adopted ‘where are the jobs?’ as a rallying cry"; "Republicans demanding to know ‘where are the jobs?’ — the refrain adopted by the House Republican leader"; "“Republicans have made "where are the jobs?" their mantra…”; " ‘Where are the jobs?’ – a theme in GOP campaign stump speeches"; " demanding to know ‘where are the jobs?’"

The entire PAGE is devoted to it being their mantra, their taunt, their refrain, their rallying cry, their theme. That proves my point, as well as the fact that "Jobs! Jobs! Jobs!" WAS their major focus throughout their bids for election, but you'll die before admitting it. Fine, obviously facts mean nothing to you, so I won't bother further. Dems also talked about it, but they didn't make it their focus the way Repubs did (thereby capitalizing on the fears of the American people) then start right out doing nothing but making laws about same-sex marriage, abortion, etc. (not to mention that the Dems DID try to create jobs--remember the stimulus? It created a few, and would have created more if it had been big enough.

Aside from which, the stimulus hasn't all been spent and is slated for infrastructure and other things as it's spent. What have the Repubs done to create jobs? They've KILLED jobs in the public sector, given jobs to prisoners, shut down places which provided jobs, and "created" jobs that are only minimum wage with no benefits.

The entire point of my post was that Repubs made "Jobs! Jobs! Jobs!" their rallying cry during the election, then once elected went on to focus on social issues and doing things that KILLED jobs. I've more than made my point, not just that it was their mantra, but what they did after BEING elected, so I'm not bothering further with you. Your squirming is boring and pathetic, it's no debating the point.

Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off

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Sunday, August 28, 2011 7:13 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

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What have the Repubs done to create jobs? They've KILLED jobs in the public sector, given jobs to prisoners, shut down places which provided jobs, and "created" jobs that are only minimum wage with no benefits.

Well, that's not entirely true, Niki. Rick Perry, for instance, HAS created quite a few jobs. Unfortunately for him, a great many of them were GOVERNMENT JOBS. Kinda makes it hard to run on the idea that "government cannot create jobs" and that "big government is bad" when your signature accomplishment is to increase the size of the big government by using it to create government jobs...

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Sunday, August 28, 2011 8:17 AM

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

...don't forget those wonderful minimum-wage jobs, too...you know, the ones with no benefits which end up with the employee in the E.R. where taxpayers pick up the tab...great governing, Gov'nor.

Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off

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Monday, August 29, 2011 3:01 AM