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Speed Limit may be Revised

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Friday, September 23, 2011 4:22 AM

Freedom is Important because People are Important

http://www.cnn.com/2011/09/23/world/europe/switzerland-science/index.h
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Hello,

Anything can happen, child. Anything can be.

The possibilities are exciting.

--Anthony

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"In every war, the state enacts a tax of freedom upon the citizenry. The unspoken promise is that the tax shall be revoked at war's end. Endless war holds no such promise. Hence, Eternal War is Eternal Slavery." --Admiral Robert J. Henner

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Friday, September 23, 2011 6:13 AM

DREAMTROVE

I recall going through the number crunching of relativity and finding something that goes into the equation as data being tied to the speed of light, making it an inescapable conclusion on the end. IOW, if it is an assumption at the beginning, it becomes a rule by the end, but there's not really a good reason why to make it an assumption at the beginning. From the standpoint of most measurements, the speed of light is near infinity anyway, it's like my brother was just saying this morning: Jews here, bowing towards Israel are basically bowing towards Mecca as well. It's relative.

just wanted to point out a little journalistic idiocy:

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The physicists say that neutrinos sent 730 kilometers (453.6 miles) underground between laboratories in Switzerland and Italy arrived a fraction of a second sooner than they should have, according to the speed of light.

It only takes a fraction of a second for a neutrino to get from italy to switzerland. 1/410, or, in this case, less. We don't know how much less, because it could be off by a fraction of a second and be anything.

That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

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Friday, September 23, 2011 6:42 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important

Hello Dream,

The sheer magnitude of subjects where you are able to offer special insights or expertise never ceases to amaze me. You truly are a Renaissance person.

--Anthony

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"In every war, the state enacts a tax of freedom upon the citizenry. The unspoken promise is that the tax shall be revoked at war's end. Endless war holds no such promise. Hence, Eternal War is Eternal Slavery." --Admiral Robert J. Henner

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Friday, September 23, 2011 6:53 AM

THEHAPPYTRADER

I've read about this as well. I believe a similar discovery was made in Chicago around 2007 but the margin of error was too wide for it to be taken seriously. That may or may not be in your article. I didn't read it all, just read enough to know it's what I've read about elsewhere. Really interesting stuff!

If I find myself with a little more time later today I'd like to look more closely at this research and what their 'margins of error' are. Sometimes journalists turn a 'might be' into a 'probably is' when Science doesn't move fast enough for them.

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Friday, September 23, 2011 7:01 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

What reason had proved best ceased to look absurd to the eye, which shows how idle it is to think anything ridiculous except what is wrong.

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Friday, September 23, 2011 7:16 AM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:It only takes a fraction of a second for a neutrino to get from italy to switzerland. 1/410, or, in this case, less. We don't know how much less, because it could be off by a fraction of a second and be anything.

According to the story they were mesuring the time to the nano second.

Also the speed of light is far from infinite, even from a measurment standpoint, in fact it is infinitly far from infinite.

(Yes, that is me being a science snob)

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Friday, September 23, 2011 7:23 AM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.

Brian Cox's take:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15034852

It's not personal. It's just war.

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