Rick Perry Says the U.S. Revolutionary War Was Fought in the 16th Century! by Kwicko

REAL WORLD EVENT DISCUSSIONS

Rick Perry Says the U.S. Revolutionary War Was Fought in the 16th Century!

POSTED BY: KWICKO
UPDATED: Monday, October 17, 2011 16:55
SHORT URL:
VIEWED: 2523
PAGE 1 of 1

Wednesday, October 12, 2011 1:27 PM

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

Boy, these guys on the right sure are some smart fellers. Here's Rick Perry last night after the latest GOP sales pitch:

Quote:
“Our Founding Fathers never meant for Washington, D.C. to be the fount of all wisdom. As a matter of fact they were very much afraid if that because they’d just had this experience with this far-away government that had centralized thought process and planning and what have you, and then it was actually the reason that we fought the revolution in the 16th century was to get away from that kind of onerous crown if you will,” Perry said.”

Read more:

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/10/rick-perry-mixes-up-dates
-of-american-revolution/

Rappy will be along to tell me how much of an expert Perry is in... 3... 2...

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:06 PM

HKCAVALIER

Okay, that's just dumb. If he'd said "17th century" he'd have made the common schoolboy mistake of seeing "1776" and thinking "17th century," but 16th??? So we fought the Revolutionary War against Queen Elizabeth the First? And we won??? lol But hell, Perry was a C and D student at college, so what can ya expect?

HKCavalier

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:23 PM

KWICKO

Heck, maybe he thinks we fought the Spanish Armada... :D

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:31 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

He's having another nervous breakdown.

NOTIFY: N | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:33 PM

KWICKO

Quote:
Originally posted by piratenews:
He's having another nervous breakdown.

He doesn't look nervous at all. He looks quite at home and relaxed in that photo! :D

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Wednesday, October 12, 2011 3:06 PM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important

Hello,

It doesn't matter. A lack of historical knowledge is not why this candidate is a bad idea. He would not be one iota a better candidate if he knew the dates down to the day and hour. It doesn't even represent some special insight into his character. I think probably the majority of Americans would hear his proclamation about the century and not even blink. I don't think that says anything special, either. It's both unimportant to what he was saying and unimportant in general. The man has clearly and 'correctly' phrased positions that disturb me far more than this.

--Anthony

_______________________________________________

"In every war, the state enacts a tax of freedom upon the citizenry. The unspoken promise is that the tax shall be revoked at war's end. Endless war holds no such promise. Hence, Eternal War is Eternal Slavery." --Admiral Robert J. Henner

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Wednesday, October 12, 2011 8:56 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht

I think we can all agree that this is a goofier mistake than getting quotes from the Constitution and the Declaration of Independance confused.

Maybe Martin Luther was involved in that there Revolution too, along with Queen Elizabeth and the Spanish Armada. :) and look out for Henry VIII and all of his six wives, because this is a family affair, and pretty soon Cortes and Pizarro will come marching in and ... wow, a lot of stuff happened in the 1500s/16th century.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

NOTIFY: N | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Thursday, October 13, 2011 4:11 AM

PIZMOBEACH

... fully loaded, safety off...

I think this last debate added another 20 tons to an already sinking Rick Perry ship. I think the only question about him is when does he drop out? How long before his ego gives way to what's happening? He looked like he was in pain in those debates, completely out of his comfort zone.

Scifi movie music + Firefly dialogue clips, 24 hours a day - http://www.scifiradio.com

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Thursday, October 13, 2011 4:43 AM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!

I'll give him a pass on this as long as he just says it was a mistake and moves on. If he somehow tried to defend it, that is another story.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Thursday, October 13, 2011 11:14 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Well, how else can we explain that the US has been guilty of slavery and oppression of blacks and natives here, for over 400 years ?

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

NOTIFY: N | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Thursday, October 13, 2011 11:29 AM

JONGSSTRAW

Perry is a man ahead of his time.

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Saturday, October 15, 2011 3:56 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Uhh, I think that quote shows he is a man OUT of time...and yes, the double entendre is intentional.

I agree with Anthony and Pizmo.

Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Saturday, October 15, 2011 6:31 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up

Quote:
Originally posted by RionaEire:
I think we can all agree that this is a goofier mistake than getting quotes from the Constitution and the Declaration of Independance confused.

Yep. They're probably laughing at him in all 57 states Obama visited during his campaign.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Saturday, October 15, 2011 7:20 AM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.

Quote:
Yep. They're probably laughing at him in all 57 states Obama visited during his campaign.

I know everyone on the right loves this slip-up, and wheels it out everytime they have to defend one of their own - but really it's so weak...

It's clear that he meant to say 47, and he never said 'all':

Quote:
"It is wonderful to be back in Oregon," Obama said. "Over the last 15 months, we’ve traveled to every corner of the United States. I’ve now been in 57 states? I think one left to go. Alaska and Hawaii, I was not allowed to go to even though I really wanted to visit, but my staff would not justify it."

http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/barackobama/a/57_states.htm

See it's evident from the quote itself that Obama knows there are 50 states (evident from the real quote, not the 'all 57 states' one).

Is it clear at all that Rick Perry knows when the US revolutionary war happened? Or that Sarah Palin knows the difference between North and South Korea? It's anyone's guess.

Meanwhile the best you guys have on Obama is this...

It's not personal. It's just war.

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Saturday, October 15, 2011 7:28 AM

JONGSSTRAW

Quote:
Originally posted by Geezer:
They're probably laughing at him in all 57 states Obama visited during his campaign.

Obama used those 'secret' states' electoral votes to secure the win. McCain and his people didn't even notice, as they were too busy taking notes to later blame Sarah Palin for everything, and getting MSNBC gigs lined up to be their post-defeat Republican 'experts.'

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Saturday, October 15, 2011 8:14 AM

KIRKULES

Quote:
Originally posted by kpo:

See it's evident from the quote itself that Obama knows there are 50 states (evident from the real quote, not the 'all 57 states' one).

Is it clear at all that Rick Perry knows when the US revolutionary war happened? Or that Sarah Palin knows the difference between North and South Korea? It's anyone's guess.

Meanwhile the best you guys have on Obama is this...

I think I see what you're saying but being an conservative I'm way to dumb to see the subtleties of your argument. If I have it right you're saying that it's obvious that when a liberal misspeaks its just a slip of the tongue but if a conservative does they are almost certainly stupid. Libs in the US have been pushing that same old line for most of my life but it still makes me chuckle that they cant resist dragging it out to boast their weak self esteem. I think conservatives should just concede that liberals are smarter for the mental health of our liberal friends, if its so important that all accept their rightful mental superiority I think we should accept it as fact and move on.

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Saturday, October 15, 2011 10:15 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up

Quote:
Originally posted by kpo:
It's clear that he meant to say 47...

But not clear that Perry meant to say 18th?

Why is one clear and the other not?

Quote:
...and he never said 'all':

Nope. I did. Obama said (as you note), "I’ve now been in 57 states?". I just suggested that folks are laughing at Perry in all 57 states Obama claimed to have been in.

Actually, Obama didn't say there were 57 states.

"I’ve now been in 57 states? I think one left to go. Alaska and Hawaii, I was not allowed to go to even though I really wanted to visit, but my staff would not justify it."

If he'd been in 57, with one to go, plus Alaska and Hawaii, he's really claiming 60 states.

When Liberals are faced with their politicians making speaking gaffes, instead of conservative pols, I'm thinking the phrase "You can dish it out, but you can't take it" applies.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Saturday, October 15, 2011 12:26 PM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.

Quote:
If he'd been in 57, with one to go, plus Alaska and Hawaii, he's really claiming 60 states.

Exactly, he's out by 10 - that's how it's obvious that he meant to say 47 not 57.

Quote:
Why is one clear and the other not?

Well where you differ from me? Do you think it's possible Obama thought there were 60 states, or are you certain that Rick Perry knows which century the revolutionary war was fought?

It's not personal. It's just war.

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Sunday, October 16, 2011 4:49 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up

Quote:
Originally posted by kpo:
Well where you differ from me? Do you think it's possible Obama thought there were 60 states, or are you certain that Rick Perry knows which century the revolutionary war was fought?

I think they both made a mis-statement.

What's interesting to me is how you can be so insulting about Perry's mistake, and get so defensive aboyt Obama's.

If it's okay to make fun of Perry's gaffe, why not Obama's?

"Keep the Shiny side up"

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Sunday, October 16, 2011 5:49 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

[quote

Quote:
wheels it out everytime they have to defend one of their own - but really it's so weak...

It's not just weak, KPO, I'm really tired of it. You'd think they'd have come up with some new material...how far back is that one? And that's for the actual quote, I only heard about it here and assumed it was correct, 'cuz everyone makes slip-ups. But they don't seem to have anything more recent, and that one is so old and tired, but they keep trotting it out...

Quote:
when a liberal misspeaks its just a slip of the tongue but if a conservative does they are almost certainly stupid.

You know what I'd like? I'd like to see some examples of misspelled signs at Occupy demonstrations...it was such fun to see the ones all the Tea Partiers did...but I don't seem to find any. I THOUGHT I had when I found this:

, but sadly, no such luck...

Did find a comment that says it for me:

Quote:
you are seeing the difference between educated individuals and trailer park rednecks who believe everything they are told.....my favorite...every hick thought Obama would take their guns when he was elected...and yet....he has been so pro gun he is ticking off the people behind the Brady Law....dumb dumbs....

Quote:
If it's okay to make fun of Perry's gaffe, why not Obama's?

Can't speak for anyone else, but I'm happy to make fun of ANYONE's gaffes But, what with Palin, Bachman, Perry, etc., as the slate of candidates, there are just so MANY, it's hard to resist.

Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Monday, October 17, 2011 4:21 AM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.

Quote:
I think they both made a mis-statement.

I think you're probably right; I think I was underestimating the scale of ignorance required for an American to not know the century of the American War of Independence - those dates are probably the first thing you guys learn in history at school. For some reason that didn't occur to me...

In that case yes, this gaffe is about on a par with Obama's.

Quote:
What's interesting to me is how you can be so insulting about Perry's mistake, and get so defensive aboyt Obama's.

I think a significant portion of conservatives believe that Obama actually said "all 57 states", and that he meant it. So from my point of view it doesn't hurt to throw the truth out there once in a while.

It's not personal. It's just war.

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Monday, October 17, 2011 4:47 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

I was thinking maybe he made the mistake because so many forget that 1776 is actually the 18th century, and he reversed the concept, thinking it was a century EARLIER rather than LATER. I have trouble remembering to go FORWARD a century sometimes...maybe he remembered it wrong.

Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Monday, October 17, 2011 6:05 AM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.

Yeah, that occurred to me too. Like he's said '17th Century' before and been told that that was wrong, and he was out by a century - but then he forgot in which direction...

It struck me as a strange mistake. Obama's slip up is more understandable, people are used to saying '50 states', and so that fifty slipped in and replaced the forty in his head.

It's not personal. It's just war.

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Monday, October 17, 2011 4:55 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht

I agree that the 57 states bit is bandied about too often, especially considering that it was a while ago, it was funny for a while but I'm sure President Obama has produced some sort of new material since then that people could find humorous, after all presidents are no longer orators, its been a while since we had a true orator for a president, so they all make goofy mistakes.

To solve a glitch in remembering to skip one ahead for centuries he could have just said the 1700s and saved himself a lot of trouble. Most people who have a hard time with that difference between numbers and century number just say the 1700s, or whatever time they're referring to so no one will know that they get those switches mixed up.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

NOTIFY: N | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

YOUR OPTIONS

SHARE THREAD

NEW POSTS TODAY

USER	POST DATE

USER

POST DATE