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Monday, October 17, 2011 2:46 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)




Is it real? Nope - Chuck Testa!



There's something endearing about badly-made small-market commercials.

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Tuesday, October 18, 2011 7:57 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Would be, except for people like me, who find it horrifying. (What he does, not the commercial.) The commercial is amusing, tho', I'll admit that much.


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off



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Tuesday, October 18, 2011 12:03 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Think taxidermy is horrifying ? Take a look at this!






One-Eyed Anomaly
Photograph courtesy Marcela Bejarano-Álvarez

Talk about a one-of-a-kind discovery—an extremely rare cyclops shark (pictured) has been confirmed in Mexico, new research shows.

The 22-inch-long (56-centimeter-long) fetus has a single, functioning eye at the front of its head—the hallmark of a congenital condition called cyclopia, which occurs in several animal species, including humans.

Earlier this year fisher Enrique Lucero León legally caught a pregnant dusky shark near Cerralvo Island (see map) in the Gulf of California. When León cut open his catch, he found the odd-looking male embryo along with its nine normal siblings. "He said, That's incredible—wow," said biologist Felipe Galván-Magaña, of the Interdisciplinary Center of Marine Sciences in La Paz, Mexico.

Once Galván-Magaña and colleague Marcela Bejarano-Álvarez heard about the discovery—which was put on Facebook—the team got León's permission to borrow the shark for research. The scientists then x-rayed the fetus and reviewed previous research on cyclopia in other species to confirm that the find is indeed a cyclops shark.

Cyclops sharks have been documented by scientists a few times before, also as embryos, said Jim Gelsleichter, a shark biologist at the University of North Florida in Jacksonville. The fact that none have been caught outside the womb suggests cyclops sharks don't survive long in the wild.

Overall, finding such an unusual animal reinforces that scientists still have a lot to learn, Gelsleichter added.

"It's a humbling experience to realize you ain't seen it all yet."

—Christine Dell'Amore

Published October 13, 2011



" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Wednesday, October 19, 2011 2:42 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


Wait, so are they saying that people can actually be born with one syclops eye too?

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:14 PM

JONGSSTRAW


I will never understand hunting animals for sport and trophies. It seems to me that this represents the absolute worst human trait we have. Animals are dumb creatures. If you believe in God you know that God created these wonderful animals, so when they're frivolously killed it's actually blasphemy against God. And there's really no "sport" to it at all. Dumb creature naked in the wild versus a high-powered rifle with a large caliber exploding bullet, with the "battlefield" super-enlarged by precision telescopic sights. And then these hunters are so proud of themselves that they need to preserve their big conquest of the beast in perpetuity, I suppose to help deflect from the fact that they all probably have very small penises.









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Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:51 PM

FIVVER


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
I will never understand hunting animals for sport and trophies. It seems to me that this represents the absolute worst human trait we have. Animals are dumb creatures. If you believe in God you know that God created these wonderful animals, so when they're frivolously killed it's actually blasphemy against God. And there's really no "sport" to it at all. Dumb creature naked in the wild versus a high-powered rifle with a large caliber exploding bullet, with the "battlefield" super-enlarged by precision telescopic sights. And then these hunters are so proud of themselves that they need to preserve their big conquest of the beast in perpetuity, I suppose to help deflect from the fact that they all probably have very small penises.











Gotta agree with you. I have no problem with people eating what they kill. I grew up in a very rural area of north Florida and hunting was food on the table. I think all 'sport' hunting should be done naked and bare handed. Then if you come out of the woods dragging a grizzly bear you killed I will grant you bragging rights.

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Wednesday, October 19, 2011 5:35 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by fivver:

I think all 'sport' hunting should be done naked and bare handed. Then if you come out of the woods dragging a grizzly bear you killed I will grant you bragging rights.



I never understood the 'thrill' of shooting a deer, from 100 yards away, or what ever, as it has no worry in the world, and is just walking along, in the sunshine.

I recently saw one huntin' show, where the critters ( elk,deer, wildebeest, what ever ) were literally nesting in the grass, and the guy with the high powered rifle was all excited as he lined up for the shot. Right before he fired, the show cut to commercial, so viewers had to wait for the killin'.



They practically shot the damn animals while they were asleep, and this is a " sport " ?

I don't get it.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Wednesday, October 19, 2011 5:37 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


I see no point in taxedirmy except for museums back in the day when they couldn't create scale models etc. As for hunting, if you're going to eat it, or see to it that it gets eaten, then okay. But hunting just to kill, to feel powerful, to have a trophy is pretty weird and really isn't right. Creatures of the wild are beautiful and killing them for sport with no other purpose is not right.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Wednesday, October 19, 2011 6:46 PM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Quote:

Originally posted by RionaEire:
Wait, so are they saying that people can actually be born with one syclops eye too?


Yes. Often they are not viable and will miscarry, and when they do come to term they don't tend to survive very long. There was a recent story of a cyclops baby from India; it survived for one day. Cyclopia is more than just a single eye, it also tends to prevent the formation of a nasal cavity, resulting in suffocation.

Sorry, that got kind of non-silly.


What reason had proved best ceased to look absurd to the eye, which shows how idle it is to think anything ridiculous except what is wrong.

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Wednesday, October 19, 2011 8:06 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


Yeah it isn't very silly, but it answered my question, thanks PhoenixRose.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Thursday, October 20, 2011 3:55 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


How reassuring to see people on both sides of the political spectrum decry "sport" hunting. It has always sickened me and yes, reminded me (just as old men driving red sports cars) of "penis enhancement".


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off



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Thursday, October 20, 2011 5:14 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


"high-powered rifle with a large caliber exploding bullet"

Hello,

I was wondering where I could get a large caliber exploding bullet.

--Anthony



_______________________________________________

"In every war, the state enacts a tax of freedom upon the citizenry. The unspoken promise is that the tax shall be revoked at war's end. Endless war holds no such promise. Hence, Eternal War is Eternal Slavery." --Admiral Robert J. Henner


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Thursday, October 20, 2011 7:16 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


A few things to wind the anti-hunters up a bit.

I would note that wild game meat is pretty much completely organic, and much better for you than factory farmed beef, turkey, chicken, etc.

Also, almost all folks who trophy hunt either eat the animals they kill or donate the meat. In Africa it's usually to a local village. Around where I live it goes to Hunters For the Hungry, who, in cooperation with local butchers, package it up and give it to food banks and kitchens that feed the homeless.

Let's not forget that in many regions of the country, there are more deer than the available forage can support, and that the possibility of introducing predators other than Man is pretty much nil. So it's either waste meat to starvation or cars to cull the overpopulation, or let hunters put it to good use.

By the way, hunters, through the Pittman-Robertson Act, pay an 11% tax on all new firearms, ammunition or archery equipment. This tax goes to the federal government and then back to state natural resources agencies for wildlife conservation. Then there's the $185 million a year in license fees that also go to wildlife conservation.

And, hunters are also more aware of the food chain and their links to the environment, since they kill, clean, and butcher their own meat, rather than buying it in un-recognisable lumps in an un-recyclable plastic tray at the grocery.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Thursday, October 20, 2011 12:21 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


I certainly don't mind hunting when the meat is eaten. I think most of the people here who are opposed to wasteful hunting are okay with hunting when its done responsably and the meat is eaten by the hunter's family or other families that need it. If someone wants to keep the horns as proof of their experience and skill at hunting I think that's reasonable. Its just the yahoos who shoot creatures in the snow from helicopters and don't use it but just take a couple of things that bother me.
"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Thursday, October 20, 2011 1:23 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


And here I thought it was just kind of a funny commercial, a bit meta, and a little bit awesome - the irony being, it's really a pretty terribly-done commercial, but it's so bad it's endearing, and because of that, a tiny, low-budget, poorly-produced local spot went viral, took off, and went worldwide.

And I really kind of hope Chuck Testa is overwhelmed with demand, even from people just looking to get their dead pet stuffed as a keepsake.

As for sport hunting, I'm not into hunting for sport or any other reason, but I have no problem with hunting as long as the meat is eaten. And if the skin is then wrapped around a foam dummy and enshrined in a home as a token of honor to the departed animal, well, that's not really my bag either, but I'd say it's more respectful than tossing a carcass off the side of the road or into a dumpster.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Thursday, October 20, 2011 2:06 PM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Quote:

Originally posted by RionaEire:
Its just the yahoos who shoot creatures in the snow from helicopters and don't use it but just take a couple of things that bother me.



And the vast majority of responsible hunters would agree with that statement 100%.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Friday, October 21, 2011 5:47 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Just FYI on a few of those pro-hunting points:
Quote:

Less than seven percent of the U.S. population hunts. Hunting is permitted on 60 percent of U.S. wildlife refuges and in many national forests and state parks. On federal land alone (more than half a billion acres), more than 200 million animals are killed every year.

When hunters talk about shooting overpopulated animals, they are usually referring to white-tailed deer, representing only 3 percent of all the animals killed by hunters. Sport hunters shoot millions of mourning doves, squirrels, rabbits, and waterfowl, and thousands of predators, none of whom any wildlife biologist would claim are overpopulated or need to be hunted. Even with deer, hunters do not search for starving animals. They either shoot animals at random, or they seek out the strongest and healthiest animals in order to bring home the biggest trophies or largest antlers. Hunters and wildlife agencies are not concerned about reducing deer herds, but rather with increasing the number of targets for hunters and the number of potential hunting license dollars. Thus, they use deer overpopulation as a smokescreen to justify their sport. The New Jersey Division of Fish, Game and Wildlife states that "the deer resource has been managed primarily for the purpose of sport hunting," (New Jersey Division of Fish, Game and Wildlife, An Assessment of Deer Hunting in New Jersey, 1990).

Hunters also shoot nonnative species such as ring-necked pheasants who are hand-fed and raised in pens and then released into the wild just before hunting season. Even if the pheasants - native to China - survive the hunters' onslaught, they are certain to die of exposure or starvation in the nonnative environment. While hunters claim they save overpopulated animals from starvation, they intentionally breed some species and let them starve to death.

Hunters and hunting organizations also promote the idea that hunting is necessary for "wildlife management" and "conservation." "Wildlife management" and "conservation" are euphemisms used to describe programs that ensure that there are always enough animals for hunters to hunt. Because they make their money primarily from the sale of hunting licenses, the major function of wildlife agencies is not to protect individual animals or biological diversity, but to propagate "game" species for hunters to shoot.

State agencies build roads through our wild lands to facilitate hunter access, they pour millions of tax dollars into law enforcement of hunting regulations and hunter education, and into manipulating habitat by burning and clear-cutting forests to increase the food supply for "game" species such as deer. More food means a larger herd and more animals available as targets. Hunting programs also cause wildlife overpopulation by stimulating breeding by conducting "buck only" hunts, which can leave as many as six does per buck; pen-raising quail, grouse, and pheasants for use as hunters' targets; transporting raccoons, antelopes, martens, wild turkeys, and other animals from one state to another to bolster populations for hunters; and exterminating predators like wolves and mountain lions in order to throw prey populations off balance, thereby "justifying" the killing of both "dangerous" and "surplus" animals.

Hunters claim that they pay for "conservation" by buying hunting licenses, duck stamps, etc. But the relatively small amount each hunter pays does not cover the cost of hunting programs or game warden salaries. The public lands many hunters use are supported by taxpayers. U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service programs, which benefit hunters, get most of their funds from general tax revenues, not hunting fees. Funds benefiting "non-game" species are scarce. Hunters kill more animals than recorded tallies indicate. It is estimated that, for every animal a hunter kills and recovers, at least two wounded but unrecovered animals die slowly and painfully of blood loss, infection, or starvation. Those who don't die often suffer from disabling injuries. Because of carelessness or the effects of alcohol, scores of horses, cows, dogs, cats, hikers, and others are wounded or killed each year by hunters. In 1988, 177 people were killed and 1,719 injured by hunters while walking through the woods or on their own property.

Hunters say that they are "ethical" and follow the concept of "fair chase." What is fair about a chase in which the hunter uses a powerful weapon from ambush and the victim has no defense except luck? Furthermore, despite the hunting community's repeated rhetoric of "hunting ethics," many hunting groups have refused to end repugnant practices that go above and beyond the cruelty inherent in all sport hunting. There is clearly no "fair chase" in many of the activities sanctioned by the hunting community, such as: "canned hunts," in which tame, exotic animals - from African lions to European boars - are unfair game for fee-paying hunters at private fenced-in shooting preserves; "contest kills," in which shooters use live animals as targets while competing for money and prizes in front of a cheering crowd; "wing shooting," in which hunters lure gentle mourning doves to sunflower fields and blast the birds into pieces for nothing more than target practice, leaving more than 20 percent of the birds they shoot crippled and un-retrieved; "baiting," in which trophy hunters litter public lands with piles of rotten food so they can attract unwitting bears or deer and shoot the feeding animals at point-blank range; 'hounding," in which trophy hunters unleash packs of radio-collared dogs to chase and tree bears, cougars, raccoons, foxes, bobcats, lynx, and other animals in a high-tech search and destroy mission, and then follow the radio signal on a handheld receptor and shoot the trapped animal off the tree branch. More at http://www.idausa.org/facts/hunting.html said, as far as I'm concerned. I've heard all the "arguments" before; I hope this educates those who don't know the facts.



Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off



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Friday, October 21, 2011 6:00 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Hello,

I think you will find that the repugnant actions of 'some hunters' are representative of 'all hunters' the same way that the repugnant actions of rapists are representative of all humans.

--Anthony





_______________________________________________

"In every war, the state enacts a tax of freedom upon the citizenry. The unspoken promise is that the tax shall be revoked at war's end. Endless war holds no such promise. Hence, Eternal War is Eternal Slavery." --Admiral Robert J. Henner


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