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Gadaffi dead.
Thursday, October 20, 2011 7:38 AM
OLDENGLANDDRY
Thursday, October 20, 2011 9:40 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Thursday, October 20, 2011 10:10 AM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Thursday, October 20, 2011 10:48 AM
Quote:Most accounts agreed Gaddafi had been holed up with heavily armed supporters in the last few buildings held by regime loyalists in his Mediterranean coastal hometown of Sirt, furiously battling advancing revolutionary fighters. At one point, a convoy tried to flee and was hit by NATO airstrikes, carried out by French warplanes. France's Defense Minister Gerard Longuet said the 80-vehicle convoy was carrying Gaddafi and was trying to escape the city. The strikes stopped the convoy but did not destroy it, and then revolutionary fighters moved in on the vehicle carrying Gaddafi himself. Fathi Bashaga, spokesman for the Misrata military council, whose forces were involved in the Sirt siege, said fighters encircled the convoy and exchanged fire with several of the vehicles. In one, they found Gaddafi, wounded in the neck, and took him to an ambulance. "What do you want?" Gaddafi said to the approaching revolutionaries, Bashaga said, citing witnesses. Gaddafi bled to death from his wounds a half-hour later, he said. Abdel-Jalil Abdel-Aziz, a doctor who was part of the medical team that accompanied the body in the ambulance and examined it, said Gaddafi died from two bullet wounds, to the head and chest. "You can't imagine my happiness today. I can't describe my happiness," he told The Associated Press. "The tyranny is gone. Now the Libyan people can rest."
Quote: Gaddafi's body was then paraded through the streets of the nearby city of Misrata on top of a vehicle surrounded by a large crowd chanting, "The blood of the martyrs will not go in vain," according to footage aired on Al-Arabiya television. The fighters who killed Gaddafi are believed to have come from Misrata, a city that suffered a brutal weeks-long siege by Gaddafi's forces during the eight-month long civil war. Celebratory gunfire and cries of "God is Great" rang out across the capital Tripoli. Cars honked their horns and people hugged each other. In Sirt, the ecstatic former rebels celebrated the city's fall after weeks of bloody siege by firing endless rounds into the sky, pumping their guns, knives and even a meat cleaver in the air and singing the national anthem.
Quote: One fighter who said he was at the battle told AP Television News that the final fight took place at an opulent compound for visiting dignitaries built by Gaddafi's regime. Adel Busamir said the convoy tried to break out but after being hit it turned back and re-entered the compound. Several hundred fighters assaulted. "We found him there," Busamir said. "We saw them beating him (Gaddafi) and someone shot him with a 9mm pistol ... then they took him away." Military spokesman Col. Ahmed Bani in Tripoli told Al-Jazeera TV that a wounded Gaddafi "tried to resist (revolutionary forces) so they took him down." ----- nitial reports from fighters said Gaddafi had been barricaded in with his heavily armed loyalists in the last few buildings they held in his Mediterranean coastal hometown of Sirt, furiously battling with revolutionary fighters closing in on them Thursday. At one point, a convoy tried to flee the area and was blasted by NATO airstrikes, though it was not clear if Gaddafi was in the vehicles. Details of his death remained unverified. ----- Al-Jazeera TV showed footage of a man resembling Gaddafi lying dead or severely wounded, bleeding from the head and stripped to the waist as fighters rolled him over on the pavement. Information Minister Mahmoud Shammam said he was told that Gaddafi was dead from fighters who said they saw the body. "Our people in Sirt saw the body," Shammam told The Associated Press. "Revolutionaries say Gaddafi was in a convoy and that they attacked the convoy." ----- Other military officials in the government also said Gaddafi was dead and several revolutionary groups fighting in Sirt also said he was either killed or captured. ----- Reporters at the scene watched as the final assault began around 8 a.m. and ended about 90 minutes later. Just before the battle, about five carloads of Gaddafi loyalists tried to flee the enclave down the coastal highway that leads out of the city. But they were met by gunfire from the revolutionaries, who killed at least 20 of them. Col. Roland Lavoie, spokesman for NATO's operational headquarters in Naples, Italy, said the alliance's aircraft Thursday morning struck two vehicles of pro-Gaddafi forces "which were part of a larger group maneuvering in the vicinity of Sirt." But NATO officials, speaking on condition of anonymity in accordance to alliance rules, said the alliance also could not independently confirm whether Gaddafi was killed or captured. ----- The Misrata Military Council, one of the command groups, said its fighters captured Gaddafi. Another commander, Abdel-Basit Haroun, says Gaddafi was killed when the airstrike hit the fleeing convoy. In a sign of the conflicting versions, military spokesman Col. Ahmed Bani in Tripoli told Al-Jazeera TV, "I can assure everyone in Libya that Gaddafi has been killed for sure and I'm definitely sure and I reassure everyone that this story has ended and this book has closed." But rather than a strike on the convoy, he said a wounded Gaddafi "tried to resist (revolutionary forces) so they took him down." The spokesman for Libya's transitional government, Jalal al-Gallal, and another military spokesman Abdul-Rahman Busin said the reports have not been confirmed. The caution in making a definitive announcement came because past reports of Gaddafi family deaths or captures have later proven incorrect, even after they were announced by officials, because of the confusion among the revolutionary forces' ranks and the multiple bodies involved in commanding their fighters. http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2097359-1,00.html was my first thought, too, when I heard the news. There have been reports which have been proven wrong, so skepticism isn't surprising. Does sound like this is for real, tho', however it came about.
Thursday, October 20, 2011 11:49 AM
RIONAEIRE
Beir bua agus beannacht
Thursday, October 20, 2011 11:56 AM
Thursday, October 20, 2011 1:27 PM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Thursday, October 20, 2011 1:35 PM
Thursday, October 20, 2011 1:46 PM
MAGONSDAUGHTER
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Good. I've not seen the videos , pics. I'm told they're fairly graphic. Just one question...where's the Muslim's display of Muslim sensitivities and respect for the dead ? He'll be properly buried, with in 24 hours, I'm expecting, right?
Thursday, October 20, 2011 2:14 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Reports are saying a NATO air strike got him, and he bled to death. Looks like it's another win for US-backed assassination.
Thursday, October 20, 2011 3:20 PM
Quote:Originally posted by RionaEire: Assassination is way more cost effective and eficient, plus it doesn't take up all those troops and if its done right its quick and one can cover one's tracks better than if one sends troops in. I wish that's what we would have done in Iraq, it would have been soooooo much easier, but hindsight is 20 20. "A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya
Thursday, October 20, 2011 4:24 PM
Thursday, October 20, 2011 5:43 PM
JONGSSTRAW
Thursday, October 20, 2011 6:55 PM
PIRATENEWS
John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!
Quote:Originally posted by oldenglanddry: Gadaffi dead.
Thursday, October 20, 2011 8:36 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Friday, October 21, 2011 2:46 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Jongsstraw: Obama's really on a roll. Bin Laden, al-Awlaki, and now Gadaffi all snuffed out since May this year. That's an impressive resume of killing bad guys. I used to praise Bush for wanting to kill the bad guys, but Obama has delivered the bodies.
Friday, October 21, 2011 3:21 AM
GEEZER
Keep the Shiny side up
Quote:Gaddafi's body is being kept in a cold storage site in Misrata, where it was taken after NTC fighters captured and killed him in his hometown Sirte on Thursday. It bears a bullet hole in the head, the Reuters news agency reported. Mohamed Sayeh, a senior member of the NTC, told the Associated Press news agency that a "third party will come from outside of Libya to go through the paperwork" relating to Gaddafi's death. Sayeh said Gaddafi would be given a private burial with respect and in accordance with Islamic principles.
Friday, October 21, 2011 3:29 AM
Friday, October 21, 2011 5:31 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: He had to be put on display, first.
Friday, October 21, 2011 5:36 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: I left to sulky with the dogs when I first heard it.
Friday, October 21, 2011 8:17 AM
FREMDFIRMA
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: I wonder how long it'll take before the IMF offers it's "assistance",
Friday, October 21, 2011 9:38 AM
Quote:Following the media hype about the alleged burial at sea, sailors told local media that they were unaware that Osama’s body was on the Vinson and only heard about the event after watching Obama make an announcement on television. “Crew of the nuclear-powered aircraft carrier, which arrived in Hong Kong yesterday, claimed to be unaware of any special operation against the al-Qaeda leader until it was all over,” The Standard reported on May 23, 2011. “However they declined to discuss the issue in detail.” “We have 5000 sailors aboard the USS Carl Vinson, and none of them have tweeted, emailed or confirmed the burial at sea story,” a sailor wrote on a forum. “No pictures from these sailors either, all have cell phones, no calls home to Mom and Dad saying what they witnessed." http://www.infowars.com/did-navy-use-spice-bust-to-intimidate-sailors-on-osama-boat-into-silence/
Friday, October 21, 2011 9:40 AM
Quote:How can you believe a reporter who can't even spell the name of a world leader?
Friday, October 21, 2011 9:49 AM
Friday, October 21, 2011 9:52 AM
Friday, October 21, 2011 1:26 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: Hee, hee,hee...Good one Geezer...but, since you DID ask: Crown road fire road:
Friday, October 21, 2011 3:18 PM
Sunday, October 23, 2011 7:58 PM
Sunday, October 23, 2011 8:02 PM
Quote:Originally posted by piratenews: This is how all Communists want YOU to travel by...
Monday, October 24, 2011 3:02 AM
Quote:Originally posted by RionaEire: Sounds like they're still looking at the body, no 24 hour later burial for him. Does that mean he doesn't get certain perks in the afterlife? "A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya
Tuesday, October 25, 2011 6:15 AM
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