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Gadaffi dead.

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Thursday, October 20, 2011 7:38 AM

OLDENGLANDDRY

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Thursday, October 20, 2011 9:40 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


So it's been verified, then? I left to sulky with the dogs when I first heard it.

If the reports are tru, how like a bully; to show no mercy when in power and then beg for mercy when captured! And/or to be hiding in a hole in the ground...who else did the same, I can't seem to remember...

I think the overthrow of Libya will have a more promising outcome that what is happening in Egypt. Maybe that speaks to the negatives of having the military on your side? I dunno, but these people have been working and planning for a long time, and from what I've seen, seem to be on the right track.

If we ever find out, it will be interesting to learn whether he died of injuries during transport, was shot and killed immediately, or whether some "action" was taken once he was in hand to make sure he didn't survive. Hope the whole (REAL) story comes out eventually.

If only it helped those poor people in Syria...and Yemen...but at least it's one more dictator down the drain. That's cause for celebration.


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off



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Thursday, October 20, 2011 10:10 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Good.

I've not seen the videos , pics. I'm told they're fairly graphic.

Just one question...where's the Muslim's display of Muslim sensitivities and respect for the dead ?

He'll be properly buried, with in 24 hours, I'm expecting, right?




" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Thursday, October 20, 2011 10:48 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Finding more, tho' it's still unclear:
Quote:

Most accounts agreed Gaddafi had been holed up with heavily armed supporters in the last few buildings held by regime loyalists in his Mediterranean coastal hometown of Sirt, furiously battling advancing revolutionary fighters.

At one point, a convoy tried to flee and was hit by NATO airstrikes, carried out by French warplanes. France's Defense Minister Gerard Longuet said the 80-vehicle convoy was carrying Gaddafi and was trying to escape the city. The strikes stopped the convoy but did not destroy it, and then revolutionary fighters moved in on the vehicle carrying Gaddafi himself.

Fathi Bashaga, spokesman for the Misrata military council, whose forces were involved in the Sirt siege, said fighters encircled the convoy and exchanged fire with several of the vehicles. In one, they found Gaddafi, wounded in the neck, and took him to an ambulance. "What do you want?" Gaddafi said to the approaching revolutionaries, Bashaga said, citing witnesses.

Gaddafi bled to death from his wounds a half-hour later, he said.

Abdel-Jalil Abdel-Aziz, a doctor who was part of the medical team that accompanied the body in the ambulance and examined it, said Gaddafi died from two bullet wounds, to the head and chest. "You can't imagine my happiness today. I can't describe my happiness," he told The Associated Press. "The tyranny is gone. Now the Libyan people can rest."

Given his feelings, one has to wonder if Gaddafi bled to death, was helped to die, and/or if he was given treatment that would have saved him.

I don't blame them for feeling the way they do, and if they don't show "respect" for his body, I can hardly blame them!
Quote:



Gaddafi's body was then paraded through the streets of the nearby city of Misrata on top of a vehicle surrounded by a large crowd chanting, "The blood of the martyrs will not go in vain," according to footage aired on Al-Arabiya television. The fighters who killed Gaddafi are believed to have come from Misrata, a city that suffered a brutal weeks-long siege by Gaddafi's forces during the eight-month long civil war.

Celebratory gunfire and cries of "God is Great" rang out across the capital Tripoli. Cars honked their horns and people hugged each other. In Sirt, the ecstatic former rebels celebrated the city's fall after weeks of bloody siege by firing endless rounds into the sky, pumping their guns, knives and even a meat cleaver in the air and singing the national anthem.

There appear to be different versions, still, so I think it'll be a while before we know the whole story (if we ever do):
Quote:


One fighter who said he was at the battle told AP Television News that the final fight took place at an opulent compound for visiting dignitaries built by Gaddafi's regime. Adel Busamir said the convoy tried to break out but after being hit it turned back and re-entered the compound. Several hundred fighters assaulted. "We found him there," Busamir said. "We saw them beating him (Gaddafi) and someone shot him with a 9mm pistol ... then they took him away."

Military spokesman Col. Ahmed Bani in Tripoli told Al-Jazeera TV that a wounded Gaddafi "tried to resist (revolutionary forces) so they took him down."
-----

nitial reports from fighters said Gaddafi had been barricaded in with his heavily armed loyalists in the last few buildings they held in his Mediterranean coastal hometown of Sirt, furiously battling with revolutionary fighters closing in on them Thursday. At one point, a convoy tried to flee the area and was blasted by NATO airstrikes, though it was not clear if Gaddafi was in the vehicles. Details of his death remained unverified.
-----

Al-Jazeera TV showed footage of a man resembling Gaddafi lying dead or severely wounded, bleeding from the head and stripped to the waist as fighters rolled him over on the pavement.

Information Minister Mahmoud Shammam said he was told that Gaddafi was dead from fighters who said they saw the body. "Our people in Sirt saw the body," Shammam told The Associated Press. "Revolutionaries say Gaddafi was in a convoy and that they attacked the convoy."
-----

Other military officials in the government also said Gaddafi was dead and several revolutionary groups fighting in Sirt also said he was either killed or captured.
-----

Reporters at the scene watched as the final assault began around 8 a.m. and ended about 90 minutes later. Just before the battle, about five carloads of Gaddafi loyalists tried to flee the enclave down the coastal highway that leads out of the city. But they were met by gunfire from the revolutionaries, who killed at least 20 of them.

Col. Roland Lavoie, spokesman for NATO's operational headquarters in Naples, Italy, said the alliance's aircraft Thursday morning struck two vehicles of pro-Gaddafi forces "which were part of a larger group maneuvering in the vicinity of Sirt."

But NATO officials, speaking on condition of anonymity in accordance to alliance rules, said the alliance also could not independently confirm whether Gaddafi was killed or captured.
-----

The Misrata Military Council, one of the command groups, said its fighters captured Gaddafi. Another commander, Abdel-Basit Haroun, says Gaddafi was killed when the airstrike hit the fleeing convoy.

In a sign of the conflicting versions, military spokesman Col. Ahmed Bani in Tripoli told Al-Jazeera TV, "I can assure everyone in Libya that Gaddafi has been killed for sure and I'm definitely sure and I reassure everyone that this story has ended and this book has closed."

But rather than a strike on the convoy, he said a wounded Gaddafi "tried to resist (revolutionary forces) so they took him down."

The spokesman for Libya's transitional government, Jalal al-Gallal, and another military spokesman Abdul-Rahman Busin said the reports have not been confirmed.

The caution in making a definitive announcement came because past reports of Gaddafi family deaths or captures have later proven incorrect, even after they were announced by officials, because of the confusion among the revolutionary forces' ranks and the multiple bodies involved in commanding their fighters. http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2097359-1,00.html was my first thought, too, when I heard the news. There have been reports which have been proven wrong, so skepticism isn't surprising. Does sound like this is for real, tho', however it came about.


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
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Thursday, October 20, 2011 11:49 AM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


Looks like he's dead and gone and that the rebels shot him. We'll see what else happened as time goes by. I think this is a good thing for the people of Libya, they can all move on now.

I'm displeased with the Egyptian situation, that new government is mean and I don't like them from what I've seen on the news. One just never knows what will happen with these things.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Thursday, October 20, 2011 11:56 AM

OLDENGLANDDRY

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Thursday, October 20, 2011 1:27 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Reports are saying a NATO air strike got him, and he bled to death.

Looks like it's another win for US-backed assassination.

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Thursday, October 20, 2011 1:35 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


Assassination is way more cost effective and eficient, plus it doesn't take up all those troops and if its done right its quick and one can cover one's tracks better than if one sends troops in. I wish that's what we would have done in Iraq, it would have been soooooo much easier, but hindsight is 20 20.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Thursday, October 20, 2011 1:46 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Good.

I've not seen the videos , pics. I'm told they're fairly graphic.

Just one question...where's the Muslim's display of Muslim sensitivities and respect for the dead ?

He'll be properly buried, with in 24 hours, I'm expecting, right?




Aren't they just 'folk' making invididual choices?

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Thursday, October 20, 2011 2:14 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Reports are saying a NATO air strike got him, and he bled to death.

Looks like it's another win for US-backed assassination.



Looked like he was bleedin' plenty, as his captors were walking him to his death.

( finally took a peek at the posted link, which wasn't all that clear, thankfully )

One report said 2 to the head, one to the chest. Looks like he was roughed up , by a mob, then executed.




" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Thursday, October 20, 2011 3:20 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by RionaEire:
Assassination is way more cost effective and eficient, plus it doesn't take up all those troops and if its done right its quick and one can cover one's tracks better than if one sends troops in. I wish that's what we would have done in Iraq, it would have been soooooo much easier, but hindsight is 20 20.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya




I'll not miss Qhadaffi, but I still don't endorse overt assassination.

But if we're going to go down that road, let's make sure to not whinge when it's some of ours that get taken out.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Thursday, October 20, 2011 4:24 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Wanna see something crazy ?

Gadaffi's death, when and how, was seemingly predicted in a little known 80's sit com, featuring a young Matthew Perry.

http://www.newser.com/story/131495/80s-sitcom-nailed-year-of-gadhafis-
death.html





" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Thursday, October 20, 2011 5:43 PM

JONGSSTRAW


Obama's really on a roll. Bin Laden, al-Awlaki, and now Gadaffi all snuffed out since May this year. That's an impressive resume of killing bad guys. I used to praise Bush for wanting to kill the bad guys, but Obama has delivered the bodies.





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Thursday, October 20, 2011 6:55 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!




Quote:

Originally posted by oldenglanddry:

Gadaffi dead.



Bullshite. Just like Hussein Obama killed Osama Bin Laden...10 years after he died...no photos, no video, no body.

How can you believe a reporter who can't even spell the name of a world leader?

Pulled from drain pipe, Gadhafi was shown no mercy
http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2011/oct/20/libya-officials-gadhafi-captu
red-possibly-killed
/


Gaddafi Killing Gets War Criminal Blair Off The Hook
http://www.infowars.com/gaddafi-killing-gets-war-criminal-blair-off-th
e-hook
/


Communist British PM Tony Bliar



Do You Believe Obama's al-Qaeda Claim Gaddafi is Dead?
http://www.infowars.com/do-you-believe-al-qaedas-claim-gaddafi-is-dead/

Piratenews kills Qadaffi's daughter as US Special Forces rescue Qadaffi
www.piratenews.org/pentagonwhistleblower.html


Hussein Obama kills jew Gene Simmons not jew Gadaffi


http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=18&t=48402

Bush kills Saddam's double: Saddam's wife says "this is not my husband"
http://www.rense.com/general74/double.htm










"You're young, you're drunk, you're in bed, you have knives; shit happens!"
-Angelina Jolie

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Thursday, October 20, 2011 8:36 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I wonder how long it'll take before the IMF offers it's "assistance",

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Friday, October 21, 2011 2:46 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Obama's really on a roll. Bin Laden, al-Awlaki, and now Gadaffi all snuffed out since May this year. That's an impressive resume of killing bad guys. I used to praise Bush for wanting to kill the bad guys, but Obama has delivered the bodies.






Not bad for a Nobel PEACE prize winner, huh?




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Friday, October 21, 2011 3:21 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Good.

I've not seen the videos , pics. I'm told they're fairly graphic.

Just one question...where's the Muslim's display of Muslim sensitivities and respect for the dead ?

He'll be properly buried, with in 24 hours, I'm expecting, right?



Apparently he will.

Quote:

Gaddafi's body is being kept in a cold storage site in Misrata, where it was taken after NTC fighters captured and killed him in his hometown Sirte on Thursday. It bears a bullet hole in the head, the Reuters news agency reported.

Mohamed Sayeh, a senior member of the NTC, told the Associated Press news agency that a "third party will come from outside of Libya to go through the paperwork" relating to Gaddafi's death.

Sayeh said Gaddafi would be given a private burial with respect and in accordance with Islamic principles.



http://english.aljazeera.net/news/africa/2011/10/2011102184243875476.h
tml




"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Friday, October 21, 2011 3:29 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



He had to be put on display, first.




" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Friday, October 21, 2011 5:31 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

He had to be put on display, first.




Call Chuck Testa!

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Friday, October 21, 2011 5:36 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
I left to sulky with the dogs when I first heard it.



So, do your dogs pull you around in a two-wheeled cart, or were you and the dogs being sullenly aloof and withdrawn?

If it's the first, pictures would be nice.



BTW, you feeling the S.F. area earthquakes?

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Friday, October 21, 2011 8:17 AM

FREMDFIRMA


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
I wonder how long it'll take before the IMF offers it's "assistance",


No shit, and how long after their economy resembles that of Zimbabwe...

I could care less either way, he was an ass, but there ain't no damn shortage of those in the world.

One prediction I'll give you tho - in less than six months the Libyans are gonna be singing "meet the new boss, same as the old boss...", only they'll not learn from it, since anyone smart enough to gainsay the kind of "help" they're gonna get from us was on the list handed to the rebel death squads.

Oh yes, and now you're gonna see what it mighta looked like if the Contras *had* won in Nicaruagua.
(Hint: It won't be pretty.)

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Friday, October 21, 2011 9:38 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


This is what happens when you surrender to the Jew World Odor:


Jew Gaddafi or his doppleganger executed by Al Qaeda without trial or appeal

49 US Navy sailers given felony dishonorable discharge on ship that dumped fake Osama Bin Laden body for Dictator Hussein Obama
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/20/us-sailors-discharged-drugs-
idUSTRE79J8XA20111020


Quote:

Following the media hype about the alleged burial at sea, sailors told local media that they were unaware that Osama’s body was on the Vinson and only heard about the event after watching Obama make an announcement on television.

“Crew of the nuclear-powered aircraft carrier, which arrived in Hong Kong yesterday, claimed to be unaware of any special operation against the al-Qaeda leader until it was all over,” The Standard reported on May 23, 2011. “However they declined to discuss the issue in detail.”

“We have 5000 sailors aboard the USS Carl Vinson, and none of them have tweeted, emailed or confirmed the burial at sea story,” a sailor wrote on a forum. “No pictures from these sailors either, all have cell phones, no calls home to Mom and Dad saying what they witnessed."

http://www.infowars.com/did-navy-use-spice-bust-to-intimidate-sailors-
on-osama-boat-into-silence
/


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Friday, October 21, 2011 9:40 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Quote:

How can you believe a reporter who can't even spell the name of a world leader?
Prize for first giggle of the day goes to PN, although it's a weak one. Given Gadhafi flatly refused to EVER tell anyone how to spell his name with the result that it's spelled differently virtually every place, that made me giggle.

Hee, hee,hee...Good one Geezer...but, since you DID ask:

Crown road fire road:







Samuel P. Taylor State Park (trying to "woa!"):



Crissy Field and Fort Point under the Golden Gate:




Satisfied? I know, you only needed one, but I couldn't resist... ;o)

They have REALLY gotten good since these were taken (obviously I can't take photos of myself, so only get 'em when someone else is around). Kochak (the little light-colored girl) is a born musher, I have only to tug ever so slightly on the reins and give her "gee" or "haw", and damn, she turns on a DIME! Tashi is a lazy fart...he sets the pace, she decides the direction. I wish I had a shot at full gallop...that's REAL fun!!

Sorry for the threadjack, but you DID ask. Now back to our regularly-scheduled programming...


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off



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Friday, October 21, 2011 9:49 AM

JONGSSTRAW






'Amazing grace! How sweet the sound
That saved a wretch like me!
I once was lost, but now am found,
Was blind, but now I see.'











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Friday, October 21, 2011 9:52 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Not sure what THAT's about or what it's meant to say...given it's from you, Geezer, I'm guessing it's a snark?

Geezer: Oh, you mean the 'quakes over in Berserkeley? Nah, either too small to notice or I was walking around, sleep or driving at the time (which makes anything that small impossible to discern). They actually had four of 'em in one day, but a 3.8 is virtually unnoticeable even just a few miles away (which we are), despite what the media tells you.


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off



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Friday, October 21, 2011 1:26 PM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
Hee, hee,hee...Good one Geezer...but, since you DID ask:

Crown road fire road:





That's pretty cool. I suspect those dogs need a good workout to keep them happy, and that'd sure be easier than trying to run with them.

And, yeah, I keep seeing in the news about quakes in the Bay area, but no particulars.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Friday, October 21, 2011 3:18 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


This is how all Communists want YOU to travel by...



...while Al Gore chases massage therapists on his private jet setting between his giant mansions and oil company's slaughterhouses in the Amazon rainforest, thanks to you carbon dioxide tax paid directly to HIM.



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Sunday, October 23, 2011 7:58 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


Sounds like they're still looking at the body, no 24 hour later burial for him. Does that mean he doesn't get certain perks in the afterlife?

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Sunday, October 23, 2011 8:02 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


Quote:

Originally posted by piratenews:
This is how all Communists want YOU to travel by...






Funniest line of the day.

That is so amazing, Niki. What a way to travel around.

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Monday, October 24, 2011 3:02 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by RionaEire:
Sounds like they're still looking at the body, no 24 hour later burial for him. Does that mean he doesn't get certain perks in the afterlife?

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya



Sounds like we infidels treated Osama better than fellow Muslims treated Gaddafi. Also, there are stories I'm hearing now that they did more than just pistol whip Gaddafi before executing him. They did things.. bad things.


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Tuesday, October 25, 2011 6:15 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


I get a kick out of it; we have to go just at dawn so it's cool enough for the dogs, so it's usually really pretty wherever we go. Admittedly Crissy Field is my favorite...it's now (since being abandoned by the military and detoxified) a big lagoon (behind me in the photo) with a giant "lawn" at one end, with trails running between the sidewalk and the beach, and another paralleling the beach, so we can "gee" and "haw" around, and then of course I can let them run the beach afterwards (which is THEIR favorite part, of course!). We get a lot of attention from joggers, dog walkers, etc. I've actually had people stop their cars, or turn around, to hang out the window and take photos! People think it's really neat, and admittedly, so do I.

Lazy-man's way to exercise two high-energy young huskies, I admit!


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off



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JAYNEZTOWN


Libya protesters threaten to shut oil, gas facilities

https://au.news.yahoo.com/libya-protesters-threaten-shut-oil-154621763
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