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Monday, November 21, 2011 10:24 AM
PIZMOBEACH
... fully loaded, safety off...
Quote:Originally posted by Fremdfirma: Feh, where I go, the popgun goes - if it's on your person, it's wherever you are. But consider this: you do not have a spare tire, fire extinguisher, smoke alarm cause you intend to need them, but rather that in NOT having one when you DO need one can be disastrous, yes ?
Monday, November 21, 2011 11:05 AM
FREMDFIRMA
Quote:Originally posted by pizmobeach: Heh - that's exactly how I feel about a camera.
Monday, November 21, 2011 1:53 PM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Quote:Originally posted by pizmobeach: Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: I'm a gun owner, and a sometimes carrier, but I rarely take them on road trips with me. Last time I did was in 2000, when I took a 3-week road trip from Austin to Moab and points in between. Three weeks on the road, alone, no cell phone or other communications, and not a single night spent indoors. I had a 9mm handgun, a couple magazines of ammo, and a handful of knives, all strategically placed around the car, just in case. I tend to keep knives, clubs, and such in the cars anyway, but not guns for the most part. Sounds like you have bought into the Great Fear. Did you have anything of value on you? I mean, apart from the gun? I do always try and carry a decent wine opener... *raises pinky* Scifi movie music + Firefly dialogue clips, 24 hours a day - http://www.scifiradio.com
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: I'm a gun owner, and a sometimes carrier, but I rarely take them on road trips with me. Last time I did was in 2000, when I took a 3-week road trip from Austin to Moab and points in between. Three weeks on the road, alone, no cell phone or other communications, and not a single night spent indoors. I had a 9mm handgun, a couple magazines of ammo, and a handful of knives, all strategically placed around the car, just in case. I tend to keep knives, clubs, and such in the cars anyway, but not guns for the most part.
Monday, November 21, 2011 2:10 PM
Quote:Originally posted by pizmobeach: Quote:Originally posted by AnthonyT: Hello, I've been attacked for less. I'm glad you haven't, Pizmo, and have no Great Fear. Very sorry to hear that Anthony. I imagine it's very hard to lose that feeling once it happens. I'm also sorry to say that any sense of fear of what greater danger might happen has only started to creep into my consciousness since I started reading and posting here. I have always stayed away from bad areas and been very watchful, and with the exception of my brother who was held up outside of an adult club in a bad part of town, I have never had or known of a bad experience. There's always the possibility that I'm being completely dense too. Scifi movie music + Firefly dialogue clips, 24 hours a day - http://www.scifiradio.com
Quote:Originally posted by AnthonyT: Hello, I've been attacked for less. I'm glad you haven't, Pizmo, and have no Great Fear.
Monday, November 21, 2011 2:14 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Fremdfirma: Quote:Originally posted by pizmobeach: Heh - that's exactly how I feel about a camera. Also a damn nice thing to have, provided no one takes it from you, deletes the footage and smashes it... That being sort of an inherent problem, yanno. But I think a better solution to that instead of threat of force up against folk who outgun you cause the State provides their hardware, is something like a GPS type network for camera transmission - if they can't REACH the footage, they cannot destroy it, yes ? -F
Monday, November 21, 2011 2:17 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Bytemite: I have to say, I'm not sure why this law is necessary. Utah has extreme and ridiculously strict laws about the transport of fireworks and alcohol and guns into the state (Mormons) even though gun control IN the state is pretty lax. But that's never stopped people from smuggling them in from Colorado. And while the cops will border camp looking for smugglers, it really isn't that well enforced.
Monday, November 21, 2011 2:23 PM
Monday, November 21, 2011 2:25 PM
Quote:Originally posted by pizmobeach: Quote:Originally posted by Fremdfirma: Feh, where I go, the popgun goes - if it's on your person, it's wherever you are. But consider this: you do not have a spare tire, fire extinguisher, smoke alarm cause you intend to need them, but rather that in NOT having one when you DO need one can be disastrous, yes ? Heh - that's exactly how I feel about a camera. Scifi movie music + Firefly dialogue clips, 24 hours a day - http://www.scifiradio.com
Monday, November 21, 2011 2:28 PM
BYTEMITE
Monday, November 21, 2011 2:40 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Quote:Originally posted by pizmobeach: Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: I'm a gun owner, and a sometimes carrier, but I rarely take them on road trips with me. Last time I did was in 2000, when I took a 3-week road trip from Austin to Moab and points in between. Three weeks on the road, alone, no cell phone or other communications, and not a single night spent indoors. I had a 9mm handgun, a couple magazines of ammo, and a handful of knives, all strategically placed around the car, just in case. I tend to keep knives, clubs, and such in the cars anyway, but not guns for the most part. Sounds like you have bought into the Great Fear. Did you have anything of value on you? I mean, apart from the gun? I do always try and carry a decent wine opener... *raises pinky* Scifi movie music + Firefly dialogue clips, 24 hours a day - http://www.scifiradio.com Just the car, my mountain bike, car stereo, camping gear, and some rather pricey tools - of which the gun is just another. Do you have a Great Fear of guns? They're just objects; they don't mean what you think.
Monday, November 21, 2011 2:47 PM
RIONAEIRE
Beir bua agus beannacht
Monday, November 21, 2011 2:51 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Quote:Originally posted by Fremdfirma: Quote:Originally posted by pizmobeach: Heh - that's exactly how I feel about a camera. Also a damn nice thing to have, provided no one takes it from you, deletes the footage and smashes it... That being sort of an inherent problem, yanno. But I think a better solution to that instead of threat of force up against folk who outgun you cause the State provides their hardware, is something like a GPS type network for camera transmission - if they can't REACH the footage, they cannot destroy it, yes ? -F I've been meaning to ask you about such a thing, Frem, because while I'm sure they exist, I've no idea how pricey such a setup might be, or where one would get such a thing, but it would be ideal for anyone wanting to really get a good view of what goes on in the Occupy and police confrontations. I'm thinking something like a helmet-cam feeding through a live uplink - satellite or 4g or the like - and being recorded onto a DVR off-site in a secure location. They can beat you, take the memory card, smash the camera, and still not get the footage. Every Occupy group should have at least one, if it can be done on the cheap.
Monday, November 21, 2011 2:54 PM
Quote:Originally posted by pizmobeach: Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Quote:Originally posted by pizmobeach: Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: I'm a gun owner, and a sometimes carrier, but I rarely take them on road trips with me. Last time I did was in 2000, when I took a 3-week road trip from Austin to Moab and points in between. Three weeks on the road, alone, no cell phone or other communications, and not a single night spent indoors. I had a 9mm handgun, a couple magazines of ammo, and a handful of knives, all strategically placed around the car, just in case. I tend to keep knives, clubs, and such in the cars anyway, but not guns for the most part. Sounds like you have bought into the Great Fear. Did you have anything of value on you? I mean, apart from the gun? I do always try and carry a decent wine opener... *raises pinky* Scifi movie music + Firefly dialogue clips, 24 hours a day - http://www.scifiradio.com Just the car, my mountain bike, car stereo, camping gear, and some rather pricey tools - of which the gun is just another. Do you have a Great Fear of guns? They're just objects; they don't mean what you think. Not sure how you would know what I think they mean - maybe my fault.
Quote: Fear of guns? No - I really don't want to have the power to accidentally kill someone. I don't get any juice from that.
Quote:Most of the gun people I grew up around were assholes, it would feel wrong for me to embrace such a big part of their culture.
Monday, November 21, 2011 5:20 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Sorry - not an accusation. Just an oblique reference to some obscure long-canceled TV show.
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: I take it you don't drive a vehicle either?
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Yeah, most of the ones I know are assholes, too, but I still enjoy target shooting anyway. Sometimes it's worth it just to see the look on their faces when you outshoot them while wearing your favorite Obama or Che t-shirt. :D
Monday, November 21, 2011 6:30 PM
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