Holy vessel disappears from church housing Occupy Wall Street protesters by AURaptor

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Occupy folks are known for the company they keep.

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Sunday, January 22, 2012 7:58 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht

That is disgustingly rude, and not a single isolated incident I see. Even if you don't value something you shouldn't treat it trashily, because when you treat things poorly you're treating the people who are helping you poorly too.
:(

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Monday, January 23, 2012 5:16 AM

Why does a Rabbi have a cross... In a church? Are they messianic jews?

As for the bronze basin, it sounds less like it was stolen and more accidentally broken off, and someone tried to hide it. Not necessarily better, but less so much The Farmer and The Viper.

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Monday, January 23, 2012 5:31 AM

HERO

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Originally posted by RionaEire:
That is disgustingly rude, and not a single isolated incident I see. Even if you don't value something you shouldn't treat it trashily, because when you treat things poorly you're treating the people who are helping you poorly too.

I think that what you wrote is part of the Occupy mission statement. Its really the church's fault. They deserve to be stolen from and have their place trashed. After all, churches are supported by people with jobs...in other words, the 1%.

H

"Hero. I have come to respect you." "I am forced to agree with Hero here."- Chrisisall, 2009.
"I agree with Hero." Niki2, 2011.

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Monday, January 23, 2012 5:47 AM

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Originally posted by Bytemite:
Why does a Rabbi have a cross... In a church? Are they messianic jews?

" In Brooklyn, at another church housing OWS protesters, an occupier urinated on a cross, according to Rabbi Chaim Gruber, who has angrily abandoned the OWS movement."

Doesn't say the Rabbi was AT the church, but only that he commented on the act, and has abandoned the OWS movement.

What does it matter WHO said it anyways? Because he's a Rabbi, and it took place in a church, he can't talk about it ?

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, January 23, 2012 6:34 AM

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Doesn't say the Rabbi was AT the church, but only that he commented on the act

So, ... if the rabbi was not AT the church, how did he know about it? Did someone tell him? If so, was it true or just a rumor? If this was heresay, how did he validate that this was true? Rappy, once again failing logic because it conflicts with his world view.

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My guess is that the rabbi was "at" the church as part of the OWS movement and witnessed the event himself, but he was obviously not in charge of the church.

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Monday, January 23, 2012 7:04 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Hee, hee, hee; I DO get a kick out of Rap's obsessions and how much effort he puts into hunting up material with which to tar...let's see...OWS, of course, Obama, of course, essentially ANYTHING "left"--or "left" as he sees it. Yeah; stuff goes on.

A) Is there any PROOF that these things were done by people part of the Occupy movement, or homeless/etc., taking advantage of the situation?

B) Even if it were...gee, out of how many thousands of people?

Now comes the comparison with the Tea Party, which is totally false. While both are upset with the situation, it's been proven over and over that the Tea Party is disproportionately made up of white men who are self-identified conservatives and self-identified Republicans. They held short rallies, played by the rules and went home to piss.

OWS is a much more diverse group; according to surveys, those at Zuccotti are made up of numerous religions, political leanings (mostly "independent"), gender, education, etc. The average age is 33, over half are employed and 13% make over $75,000. I don't know what the numbers there are, but from what I've seen, quite a few, and they stick around, rather than going home after a couple of hours. So of course there are going to be incidents.

Go for it, Rap...by the way, I'm not calling you "Raptor" any more, I admire raptors, and "Rap" fits perfectly, given the image that comes to mind. Just sayin'. I can almost write your response for you, as can most of those here, so have at it. So enjoy hunting up stuff; given the time you spend here, you must sift through material for something to post and spew your venom here, and little else. So far be it from me to interfere with your fun.

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Monday, January 23, 2012 7:17 AM

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" In Brooklyn, at another church housing OWS protesters, an occupier urinated on a cross, according to Rabbi Chaim Gruber, who has angrily abandoned the OWS movement."

Doesn't say the Rabbi was AT the church, but only that he commented on the act, and has abandoned the OWS movement.

What does it matter WHO said it anyways? Because he's a Rabbi, and it took place in a church, he can't talk about it ?

No, I was asking because I was confused and because "A Rabbi walked into a church and someone peed on a cross" sounds like a bad punchline.

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Monday, January 23, 2012 7:42 AM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Rappy, once again failing logic because it conflicts with his world view.

Show me where in the story there's anything which disputes what I said. The Rabbi clearly was at one time behind the movement, and now is no longer.

Which "world view " of mine is in conflict ?

You really should brush that chip off your shoulder and deal w/ the topic more, instead of trying to vilify and attack others.

"In Brooklyn, at another church housing OWS protesters, an occupier urinated on a cross, according to Rabbi Chaim Gruber".

The story is unclear as to whether the Rabbi SAW the act, was there, and heard about it, or is simply repeating what others had told him, OR if this one act was what turned him against the OWS gang, or was just another oh, by the way for the Rabbi, who had already left the movement, before hand.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, January 23, 2012 7:53 AM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Tried to find a source that WASN'T either FOX or the NYPost and couldn't. Until real news comes out about this, going to put this one in the 'unverified' file.

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Monday, January 23, 2012 8:01 AM

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Why not ask cgiove@nypost.com ? If you doubt there actually was any story.

Are you questioning on the matter of the Rabbi ?

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In a letter last week to OWS obtained by The Post, the rabbi fumed, “The Park Slope church housing occupiers was desecrated when an occupier peed inside the building and the pee came into contact with a cross.”

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/god_awful_ows_mob_VqPjFDW
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BOWLED OVER: The Rev. Bob Brashear displays the baptismal font that was vandalized last week at West Park Church.

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Monday, January 23, 2012 8:10 AM

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The story is unclear as to whether the Rabbi SAW the act, was there, and heard about it, or is simply repeating what others had told him, OR if this one act was what turned him against the OWS gang, or was just another oh, by the way for the Rabbi, who had already left the movement, before hand.

So apparently, in your eagerness to vilify the OWS movement it doesn't matter whether this urinating incident actually happened, or was a lie, or an exaggeration. That's what I'm saying is typical of you: You don't care about what ACTUALLY happened. You make no attempt to ferret out the truth behind the statement. You just care that people agree with you, or that you agree with them, even if the two of you agree about something completely fictitious. So the rabbi left OWS, you agree with him, and therefore he must be correct. Which is why you can completely swallow what Bush/ Gingrich/ Limbaugh/ Beck says... blatant hypocrites and liars that they are. Because you never try to match up what they say with reality. For you, there is no such thing, there is only opinion. Or more accurately- belief. Which is why you will try the same thing over and over and believe the same people over and over despite getting crappy results.

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Monday, January 23, 2012 8:12 AM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Oh, the NYPost - again. Find something NOT the NYPost, or Fox.

It's a pretty simple idea. NOT EITHER ONE.

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Monday, January 23, 2012 8:18 AM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Oh, the NYPost - again. Find something NOT the NYPost, or Fox.

It's a pretty simple idea. NOT EITHER ONE.

That's the e-mail address for the author of the story. If you want answers, ASK HER !

Unless you're too scared to even try, for you might find out something you don't want to know.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, January 23, 2012 8:21 AM

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Oh, NOW you care if it happened or not??? Not five posts ago, it didn't matter. I have an idea... YOU email the author. Get started on the road of validating what you hear... check it against logic, check it against other sources (NOT Fox news, NOT NY Post).

Do you remember that story about Saddam's soldiers ripping babies out of their incubators in Kuwait? Horrible, wasn't it? It was completely false. So was the Gulf of Tonkin incident: complete fabrication. So were the WMD and yellowcake stories. Get used to the idea that not everything you read is true, especially not on FOX News (which has a much higher incidence of provably false stories) but not from ANY media. Fly and be free.

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Monday, January 23, 2012 8:22 AM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

"That's the e-mail address for the author of the story."

At the NYPost. Yep. Back to the NYPost - again.

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Monday, January 23, 2012 8:23 AM

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Sig - the NY Post says, in a letter sent to them, that's what the Rabbi said.

It's laughable that you're trying to some how pin this all on ME, and what I " want " to be true, when the facts are simply the church in question suffered vandalism via the OWS gang. A Rabbi has left the OWS movement, for what ever reasons he felt were valid, which may be JUST that one event ( I doubt it ) or may have had nothing to DO with urinating in a church/ on a cross, or what ever.

Seriously, step back and take a breath and just look at how silly your position is on this matter.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, January 23, 2012 8:25 AM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
"That's the e-mail address for the author of the story."

At the NYPost. Yep. Back to the NYPost - again.

That's the source. I guess you're too scared to even bother finding out yourself.

Understood.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, January 23, 2012 8:27 AM

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Originally posted by SignyM:

Do you remember that story about Saddam's soldiers ripping babies out of their incubators in Kuwait? Horrible, wasn't it? It was completely false.

So, Iraq never DID invade Kuwait ?

You're getting more and more ridiculous with each reply.

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Monday, January 23, 2012 8:27 AM

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Do you remember that story about Saddam's soldiers ripping babies out of their incubators in Kuwait? Horrible, wasn't it? It was completely false.- Signy
So, Iraq never DID invade Kuwait ?-rappy

No, you moron. But thank you for strawmanning my argument. It just demonstrates what a tool you are. So, again: Babies, incubators... never happened. Yellowcake. Never happened. Gulf of Tonkin. Never happened. WMD programs and deployment. Never happened, Judith Miller notwithstanding.

It's laughable that you don't care whether what YOU think has any basis in fact. Case closed.

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Monday, January 23, 2012 8:31 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Sig, Kiki, thanx for noting the idiocy of Rap's various desperate claims, but hey, you bothered: why? (just teasing). Respond to him more than once, he's got you hooked, you know, and he can keep it up all day. You're right: case closed.

You know all too well what he's doing and why. Remember my mantra: Don't feed the

(Since I see where this and other threads are going, think I'll quit for the day and go do something both more constructive and more entertaining...See ya!)

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Monday, January 23, 2012 8:32 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Well, I'm too busy to keep responding to his idiocy all day, so as far as I'm concerned replying to him on this topic further is a waste of time.

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Monday, January 23, 2012 8:33 AM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
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So, Iraq never DID invade Kuwait ?
No, you moron. Babies, incubators... never happened. Yellowcake. Never happened. Gulf of Tonkin. Never happened.

It's laughable that you don't care whether what YOU think has any basis in fact. Case closed.

Yellowcake happened, no question.

Lots of atrocities took place in Kuwait, but I don't have a damn idea as to why you're bringing these things up.

Did the church in question tell OWS folks to leave ?

Yes / NO ?

Did the Rabbi Chaim Gruber abandon the OWS movement ?

YES / NO ?

I see a photo of a man standing next to a damaged basin. My take from your objections is that this whole story is 100 % fabricated. Fine. Believe that, all you want.

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Monday, January 23, 2012 8:50 AM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Well, I'm too busy to keep responding to his idiocy all day, so as far as I'm concerned replying to him on this topic further is a waste of time.

You couldn't respond to me ON topic, which is why you ran from it, and propped up straw men like Tonkin, incubators and yellowcake.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, January 23, 2012 11:47 AM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

"That's the source. I guess you're too scared to even bother finding out yourself."

I have to say little Rappy, you sure come up with some really stupid stuff. I suspect you're just typing any old nonsense just b/c it'll make you feel 'special' if you get a reply. Also, I have to say, given that you wouldn't know a fact if it ran you down in the street, I'm not surprised you don't know how to verify one.

For everyone else with a half a brain and a clue, here's a list of 'facts' the NYPost got wrong. Given their abysmal record basing their 'stories' on facts, I think quite reasonably this 'story' goes in the 'unverified' pile.

New York Post's Qaddafi Headline Almost Certainly Wrong
Michelle Obama's Salary
Michelle Obama's Room Service?
Questions About the 'Ground Zero Mosque'
Giuliani Visits Mistress
Are Obama and Cheney Related?
labor unions

And right about here is where I got tired of cutting and pasting.

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Monday, January 23, 2012 12:17 PM

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I fail to see how your post is relevent to the issue at hand, 1kiki.

Aside from the tired old staples of name calling,insults and the like, you've offered exactly zero in your rebuttal that's remotely connected with THIS story.

You say you're " tired " of cutting and pasting ? Next time , try providing some links to those examples. Thanks bunches.

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Monday, January 23, 2012 12:40 PM

You know something I heard? I heard Occupy Wall Street and the Arab Spring and Muslims all have some kind of connection.

This is an entertaining line of questioning, but which may have a strong attachment to reality and should be given all appropriate consideration. Let us discuss this.

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Monday, January 23, 2012 12:45 PM

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Interesting . Might deserve its own thread?

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Monday, January 23, 2012 1:18 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht

Well the story sounds plausible enough to me. Its possible so why is everyone soooooooo sure that its not true? Our country is full of rude people so its quite possible.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Monday, January 23, 2012 1:29 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

It's not that it is or isn't true,

Select to view spoiler:

in fact, if you mouse up to my early post, my guess is that is WAS true. go see for yourself

it's that rappy didn't care either way. In fact, he said it himself: "The story is unclear as to whether the Rabbi SAW the act, was there, and heard about it, or is simply repeating what others had told him, OR if this one act was what turned him against the OWS gang, or was just another oh, by the way for the Rabbi, who had already left the movement, before hand." He's willing to hump and repeat any old factoid as long as it's compatible with his belief system. That's why he's STILL humping some pretty outrageous whoppers, years after they're dead, buried, smelly, and even disowned by their originators.

Which makes his posts about as credible as... oh, say... FOX News.

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Monday, January 23, 2012 2:13 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

It's not just that SignyM

The basin was first reported 'stolen' with great consternation and fanfare. Those godless SCOUNDRELS! Then it was found >in the building<. OOOPS! Scratch that 'stolen' by godless SCOUNDRELS! claim! Perhaps 'moved' would have been a better word. Then it was reported 'vandalized'. Now, if a house gets tp'd it's not something that could happen by accident. You could reasonably say it was vandalized. If one window in a car is broken it could be an accident. If they are all broken it was clearly vandalized. The basin wasn't clearly vandalized. So perhaps 'broken' or maybe 'damaged' would be a better word.

It's probably not that SOMEthing didn't happen. It's that the NYPost can't get its story straight, not even from its own version on one day to its own version on the next, let alone its versions compared to reality.

And then, well, little Rappy gets so easily confused. What can one say.

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Monday, January 23, 2012 5:52 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Occupy folks are known for the company they keep.

Odd that you'd apply that standard only to them, and never to your beloved teabaggers, rogue soldiers, or the GOP.

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Monday, January 23, 2012 5:54 PM

KWICKO

Does anyone have any video proof of OWS protesters committing such acts? As we all know, if there isn't video, then nothing happened. ;)

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Tuesday, January 24, 2012 4:09 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Tried to find a source that WASN'T either FOX or the NYPost and couldn't. Until real news comes out about this, going to put this one in the 'unverified' file.

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/01/22/desecration-at-church-leads-nyc
-pastor-to-evict-occupy-wall-street/

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Tuesday, January 24, 2012 4:34 AM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Occupy folks are known for the company they keep.

Odd that you'd apply that standard only to them, and never to your beloved teabaggers, rogue soldiers, or the GOP.

Sure I do, and there in lies the great difference between the 2 groups. TEA party folks have a grand total of ZERO arrests at their functions, no vandalism, no urinating on religious symbols.... hell yeah, I'll side w/ the good guys every day.

And Sig, post as many irrational , idiotic replies as you want, but there's nothing even you can say which will change the facts, that the OWS thugs have outstayed their welcome, with quite a few people who showed them hospitality. And THIS was how they repaid those kind acts? Not much of a defense, is it ?

And 1kiki, the NY Post DID get the story straight, but you're such a zealot and a gullible myrmidon for the OWS clowns, you don't want to see it.

The facts are undeniable. The church in question gave the OWS protesters time to pack up and get out, and rabbi Gruber abandoned his support for the OWS movement. Don't care who the hell you hear it from, because it seems you're not going to buy news that's not to your political liking, no matter what.

The basin in question, was moved, with OUT the permission of anyone in the church, and it was damaged. Regardless if the sequence of events, and BECAUSE it was moved w/ out the knowledge or permission of the church, it was FIRST though to have been stolen. The NY Post got the story right. That it was found later, in a closet, doesn't undo the fact that the OWS dirtbags were F'ing around w/ stuff which wasn't theirs, damaging it, and showing no where near the proper respect of those who opened their doors to help them out.

Get YOUR head out of your ass, and wake the hell up here. Stop trying to blame this all on the NYPost, as if they had anything w/ the OWS goons for being who they are.

Unless you can show that ...

The West Park Presbyterian Church on West 86th Street,did NOT give the OWS protesters two weeks to vacate the property...

Or that Rabbi Gruber did NOT abandon the OWS movement.

and that the basin in question was NOT damaged, I'd say you own the NY Post , me and everyone else a sincere apology.

Until then, kindly STFU.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Tuesday, January 24, 2012 7:48 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

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Our country is full of rude people so its quite possible

Thank you, Riona. I don't know whether it's true or not, could be either. Given the plans to damage OWS in numerous ways (remember the memo, folks??), it's perfectly possible for a plant to do whatever they think will bring bad press. On the other hand: what Riona said. Such things happen around the country...and far worse, but it possibly being an OWS protester, that's fodder for Rap, pure and simple. I don't think it's so much that everyone's convinced it's not true, as it is automatic response by most people here to Rap's being so convinced it IS and so badly wanting it to be. You know how that goes...

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Tuesday, January 24, 2012 8:07 AM

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Niki,

You mean like how the msm & the Dems falsely blamed the T E A party for the nut job who shot Rep. Giffords ? And in fact STILL do, to this day??

( except in this case , the ows goons really ARE to blame )

Odd, there weren't any such reports of vandalism with ANY TEA party rallies... Well, not so odd at all, because there were no such acts. But Nancy Pelosi sure did whip up some phony tears and fretted of such violence. And when there IS real vandalism? ". God bless them! " - N. Pelosi ( D CA )

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Tuesday, January 24, 2012 8:17 AM

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Gorram terrifying interweb monkeys.

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Tuesday, January 24, 2012 2:03 PM

I'm in your HAIR, screechin' my yells

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Tuesday, January 24, 2012 6:00 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Eh, rappy still willing to hump any old smelly factoid.

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Tuesday, January 24, 2012 11:21 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER

Holy bronze baptismal font, Batman!

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Wednesday, January 25, 2012 5:18 AM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Eh, rappy still willing to hump any old smelly factoid.

So, when anyone ever posts a fact which , no matter how true, doesn't jive with what you wish were true, that's humping any old smelly factoid ?

Really ?

I'll make a note of that.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Wednesday, January 25, 2012 6:37 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Oh hell, rappy, everyone knows you have a closet-full of smelly factoids! I noticed BTW that both stories have just faded away. There is a pattern I noticed with stories... when they come on with a splash and then fade away... well, there's often an "oops" behind it. Nobody has to guts to print a full-out retraction, they just kind of slink away and distance themselves. I was willing to give credit to the stories, but now I'm wondering.

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Wednesday, January 25, 2012 7:29 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/01/22/desecration-at-church-leads-nyc
-pastor-to-evict-occupy-wall-street/

But these aren't the same 'facts' so breathlessly posted by little Rappy.

"Holy vessel DISAPPEARS ..." (completely GONE!) "... an occupier urinated >>>ON<<< a cross ..." (musta' been aiming for it according to this version) "... baptismal font that was VANDALIZED ..." (and not merely "disturbed" to quote the pastor).

But yanno', with no further follow-on information (police reports, anyone?) I suspect this set of 'facts' is disappearing fast.

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Thursday, January 26, 2012 5:35 AM

America loves a winner!

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Oh hell, rappy, everyone knows you have a closet-full of smelly factoids! I noticed BTW that both stories have just faded away. There is a pattern I noticed with stories... when they come on with a splash and then fade away... well, there's often an "oops" behind it. Nobody has to guts to print a full-out retraction, they just kind of slink away and distance themselves. I was willing to give credit to the stories, but now I'm wondering.

No need for any retraction when the story is 100 % accurate. Why should a car accident on highway 5 get reported on, day after day ? Good grief, your ability to contort reality to fit your little world is truly amazing.

1kiki - You're simply repeating the same story which was originally posted. Redemption fail.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Friday, January 27, 2012 6:08 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Well, one of the interesting parts of one of the articles, missed in the initial flurry, was the facts that the "reporter" was the same person who had dubbed the Occupiers as 100% partiers and who had failed, unlike most reporters, to even obtain a statement from "the other side". Plus ... no police report? Maybe... er... the second "missing" item reappeared, along with the first?

It's shit like this that tells you about a story, son. The timing, the tempo, when it appears and disappears. Like...

SAY, HAVE YOU HEARD ABOUT LIBYA LATELY?

And, why not?

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Friday, January 27, 2012 6:45 PM

America loves a winner!

Again, you contort, twist and dismiss anything away which isn't to your liking.

Unbelievable.

If a reporter SEES a group of people partying, he doesn't need to get a quote " from the other side ", as it's pretty self evident that they are, in fact, all partying.

Nothing you've said cast any doubt on the validity of the story, that the OWS kiddies were asked to leave the church, or that some have abandoned their cause.

Nice try, but it's time you admit defeat in this nonsense, and " move on".

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Friday, January 27, 2012 6:53 PM