Gingrich Demands Return to Rowdier Debates by Niki2

America loves a winner!

While this reminds me of Happy Gilmore style galleries at a PGA event, how can anyone blame Newt for accentuating the positive ?

It's common practice for moderators to remind the audience not to respond , positively or negatively, to what's said by the candidates. Usually those 'reminders' are given prior to going live, on air. It's pretty clear that there's a pissing match going on here, between Newt and the media.

It should make things more interesting, at least.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Wednesday, January 25, 2012 8:03 AM

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

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accentuating the positive

The concept of Newt ever "accentuating the positive" gains Rap the prize for first guffaw of the morning. What a thought!

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Wednesday, January 25, 2012 8:12 AM

America loves a winner!

See Niki, this is where you and I diverge in how our brains work.

I clearly meant that Newt was playing upon HIS strengths, to make him look better, which is something ANY candidate does, in one way or another.

You seemingly mistook my remark as saying that Newt was BEING positive, or something. I really fail to see how this has you in least bit animated. Maybe being 3 hours behind in your day has something to do w/ it ?

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Wednesday, January 25, 2012 8:24 AM

Umm, does Newt have a positive attribute?

What is it again?

He is speaking right now not 500 yards from where I sit, and the giant head on his bus is exactly the same size as the giant head on his torso.

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Wednesday, January 25, 2012 8:26 AM

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Ahh, your wording is what tripped me up. "Accentuating the positive" can hardly be used to describe what Newt's doing or will be doing. "Playing to his strengths" is a clear statement, and I agree. But given there is NOTHING 'positive' about Newt, what he does or what he says. So it didn't make sense, and was laughable for anyone to think there was. Okay, I take the prize back.

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Wednesday, January 25, 2012 8:30 AM

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

...and found a recipent for it in Blue. Can't give you a "guffaw" prize, Blue, but you CERTAINLY get the "chortle" prize. You have my deepest sympathy for being so close to that huge manifestation; I hope you can't hear the swill coming out of his mouth from where you are. Wouldn't wish that on anyone...at least at home, one can change the channel.

It's not a POSITIVE attribute, but how about an EFFECTIVE attribute: Masterful Manipulator. I'll freely give him that.

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Wednesday, January 25, 2012 8:32 AM

America loves a winner!

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Originally posted by BlueHandedMenace:
Umm, does Newt have a positive attribute?

What is it again?

Balancing the budget is pretty damn positive.

Far better than anything Obama has done, that's for sure.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Wednesday, January 25, 2012 8:38 AM

Thats something he did, not an attribute he has.

An attribute would be "he is a clear communicator" or "He has experince running congress"

Of course, he doesnt have either of those attributes, as history has proven.

So i ask again, because I am genuinely curious....Is there a positive attribute to Newt Gingrich? I certainly cant see any....

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Wednesday, January 25, 2012 8:43 AM

Thanks Niki, actually it was a pain in the ass to get back into my building after lunch, other than that, no real hassles.

The wing place he is at is one of my favorite local restaurants, I hope he doesnt go leaving any taint behind, they had Santorum there on Sunday, so there hasnt really been an opportunity to wipe off the sleeze before Newt arrived to add his share.

The owner of the place is really a nice guy, he is a major repub contributer, but hey he's a business owner, I cant really fault him for supporting the party that looks out for his interests first, last, and only.

Edit: My dad said we should go to see him, and bring glitter LOLZ.

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Wednesday, January 25, 2012 8:55 AM

PENGUIN

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Originally posted by BlueHandedMenace:
Umm, does Newt have a positive attribute?

What is it again?

Fidelity...

King of the Mythical Land that is Iowa

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Wednesday, January 25, 2012 8:57 AM

OMFG thats hy-larious!

Beware the Penguin!

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Wednesday, January 25, 2012 9:12 AM

HERO

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Originally posted by BlueHandedMenace:
He is speaking right now not 500 yards from where I sit, and the giant head on his bus is exactly the same size as the giant head on his torso.

Funny. I'm a Newt supporter but I found your comment funny. Its like making fun of someone's perfect hair or big ears or how a woman dresses.

Its important in today's world of huge problems to take the time out to make fun of someone because of how they look. Its what makes America a special place...that no matter who we are we can always make ourselves feel better by laughing at the physical imperfects of another.

H

"Hero. I have come to respect you." "I am forced to agree with Hero here."- Chrisisall, 2009.
"I agree with Hero." Niki2, 2011.

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Wednesday, January 25, 2012 9:16 AM

OK, help me here.

Why are you a Newt supporter? What is it u think he will do that is good? And why do u think it?

Im sure my tone comes off as mocking, and often it is, but im seriously asking a legit question, I would love to understand how/why someone could actually WANT a President Newt.

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Wednesday, January 25, 2012 9:28 AM

America loves a winner!

Newt as President would be a huge leap forward for this country simply by kicking Obama OUT of office.

The list of positives is too long for me to get into right now, because once I start, I may NEVER stop.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Wednesday, January 25, 2012 9:29 AM

sooo....in other words you cant think of any, and that's your standard copout answer line? I dont have time?

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Wednesday, January 25, 2012 9:40 AM

FREMDFIRMA

I say go for it, hold them debates in a CAGE MATCH.
At least it'd be somewhat entertaining.
Honestly though, I think Ron Paul would still whip their ass, the lot of em, even there.

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Wednesday, January 25, 2012 10:06 AM

Im particularly fond of the Snake Charmers Vs Windbags match, Id pay serious money for good seats to that one.

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Wednesday, January 25, 2012 10:55 AM

STORYMARK

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
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Originally posted by BlueHandedMenace:
Umm, does Newt have a positive attribute?

What is it again?

Balancing the budget is pretty damn positive.

Far better than anything Obama has done, that's for sure.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

'Cept averting Bush's depression.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Wednesday, January 25, 2012 4:33 PM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up

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Originally posted by Niki2:
His encouragement of mob mentality makes me cringe in that it brings out the very worst of that mob mentality and makes any chance of adult communication impossible.

I don't see it being as as bad as, say, the Occupy 'call and response' tactic used to interfere with speech they don't approve of. As misguided as Gingrich's supporters may be, they at least seem to let the other candidates express their views, rather than shutting them down.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Thursday, January 26, 2012 3:57 AM

HERO

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Originally posted by Storymark:
'Cept averting Bush's depression.

Bush does not seem depressed. He actually seems pretty darn happy. Upbeat. Positive. He seems to enjoy retirement. Good for him.

H

"Hero. I have come to respect you." "I am forced to agree with Hero here."- Chrisisall, 2009.
"I agree with Hero." Niki2, 2011.

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Thursday, January 26, 2012 4:48 AM

I'd be happy too, if i was no longer the puppet face of the people plundering our nation for their own greed.

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Thursday, January 26, 2012 5:23 AM

America loves a winner!

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Originally posted by BlueHandedMenace:
I'd be happy too, if i was no longer the puppet face of the people plundering our nation for their own greed.

Bush was a puppet to the Dems in congress ?

Interesting idea. Hmm..

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Thursday, January 26, 2012 5:29 AM

Now, there are plenty of brushes you can tar the Dems in congress with, that they have fully earned.

Spineless? For sure.

Weak? You betcha!

Ineffective? Without a doubt.

But are they really a greedy group? Outside of some sweetheart mortgages for dodd and a few others, which plenty on both sides have benefitted from, Im not really coming up with a financial issue involving democrats....could u educate me?

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Thursday, January 26, 2012 5:31 AM

How many Billions was it that Dick Cheney's company cheated the US government out of in Iraq? I cant remember if it was over or under a hundred billion....the memory slips lately sadly...

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Thursday, January 26, 2012 5:39 AM

America loves a winner!

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How many Billions was it that Dick Cheney's company cheated the US government out of in Iraq? I cant remember if it was over or under a hundred billion....the memory slips lately sadly...

Dick Cheney did not found Haliburton. It's not " HIS " company. He had no role in what went on with in Haliburton while he was VP.

If you have any evidence which shows the contrary, by all means, post it. Until then, kindly STFU, and crawl away.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Thursday, January 26, 2012 6:17 AM

Zero attempt to defend your BS dems in congress are greedy position then? That figures, since it was farcical to begin with.

Im sure Cheney had NOTHING to do with the company he ran before becoming VP getting all of those sweetheart contracts from the military which they so gleefully swindled.

I noticed u never did come up with a positive attribute for Newty either...IM SHOCKED

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Thursday, January 26, 2012 6:48 AM

America loves a winner!

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Originally posted by BlueHandedMenace:
Zero attempt to defend your BS dems in congress are greedy position then? That figures, since it was farcical to begin with.

There was nothing 'BS' about it.

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Im sure Cheney had NOTHING to do with the company he ran before becoming VP getting all of those sweetheart contracts from the military which they so gleefully swindled.

I noticed u never did come up with a positive attribute for Newty either...IM SHOCKED

I'm sure Cheney didn't have anything to do w/ the company either. He left that position, long before running, and put his investments into a blind trust.

And I did give ONE positive for Newt. He's not Obama.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Thursday, January 26, 2012 7:40 AM

Long before running you say?

What time period would u consider "long before running?"

Methinks i smell some revisionist history here, which is of course the only kind Rap is aware of.

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Thursday, January 26, 2012 7:55 AM

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Originally posted by BlueHandedMenace:
Long before running you say?

What time period would u consider "long before running?"

Methinks i smell some revisionist history here, which is of course the only kind Rap is aware of.

Long enough for it not to be an issue for his candidacy.

And any revisionist history going on here is clearly by you, for making unfounded claims of Cheney's involvement, and personal knowledge of how his stocks were doing, while in office.

Haliburton ? They've had no bid contracts w/ the govt LONG before Cheney was VP. But facts won't bother you much, I'm guessin.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Thursday, January 26, 2012 8:00 AM

Right, long before Cheney was VP, while he was running Haliburton. After he was Sec of Def. No connections to no bid military contracts there.

And thank you for proving you actually have no idea how long it was.

It was less than 6 months from CEO to sworn in as VP.

Theres this thing called google, and it allows people to check up on your claims, and show them to be false.

http://www.halliburtonwatch.org/about_hal/chronology.html

Edit: I read a little more of that piece, it seems Cheney actually GAVE Hailburton its first contracts, as SecDef, THEN left the department of defense to join Haliburton.

Zero conflicts of interest there.

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Thursday, January 26, 2012 8:13 AM

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

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What time period would u consider "long before running?"

It's to laugh. But I should warn you, if you don't already know, that attempting to communicate with Rap or his cohorts is an exercise in futility. Blind, deaf, dumb and incapable of dealing with facts. Go right ahead if you enjoy it, you're doing a great job, but have no expectations. The timeline shows it all perfectly, but that will have absolutely NO effect.

I love how, when anything negative is done by the right, Rap wracks his brain to come up with something the left did that he can "compare" it to...of course, as having been "wronger". OWS aren't candidates for office and the two are completely unrelated, but not in Rap's brain. Let's see; so the bloodthirsty mob at the debates is less worse than the mike checks? That doesn't make it good, just "less bad". Hookay, gotcha.

I would say "blind partisan jihad is sad", except I don't believe that's what it is. It's his game, and if Obama had done absolutely everything right, Rap would choke on it before admitting it. We all know that.

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Thursday, January 26, 2012 8:14 AM

STORYMARK

Nice, see, he just answered with "long enough" so that no matter how far off he is, or how long the timeframe, he'll claim victory - because he doesn't care - he'll defend Chaney on anything.

More evidence of why conversation with Rappy is futile.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Thursday, January 26, 2012 8:22 AM

Thanks Niki, I appreciate the heads up, but Ive been lurking long enough to know im just Poking the Bear here.

What can I say, I like painting targets on em, setting little traps, and standing back to watch the fun :) Or to quote Jayne "I like smackin em"

Yeah Story, that couldnt have been much clearer of an "I dont know" than if he actually admitted he was talking out of his ass and got caught at it.

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Thursday, January 26, 2012 9:44 AM

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Yeah, Blue, I kinda figured you were playing Mike's game and enjoying it

, just wanted to make sure that, in case you were trying to seriously communicate with him (as I made the mistake of doing for far too long), I'd save you the frustration.

So poke away, my man, and enjoy. That's about all he's good for...that and mocking.

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Thursday, January 26, 2012 11:29 AM

MAGONSDAUGHTER

No more debates. The decision should be made by hand to hand combat to the death. That'd liven things up.

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Thursday, January 26, 2012 1:01 PM