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A tempest in a teacup, no?


"All I suggest is a man hears what he wants to hear, and disregards the rest" ~Paul Simon

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So the guy who leaked the documents has got caught. But it still seems to me he performed a public service.

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you have groups who, if we're to believe them, will usher in massive new taxes and unbelievable redistribution of wealth, and for what ? Absolutely no significant , measurable benefit to the cause they're allegedly so concerned about, saving the planet.

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Oh and auraptor:

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you have groups who, if we're to believe them, will usher in massive new taxes and unbelievable redistribution of wealth, and for what ? Absolutely no significant , measurable benefit to the cause they're allegedly so concerned about, saving the planet.

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Sure, sure - it's all just a Marxist conspiracy to expand government and redistrubute wealth. Your buttons are so easily pressed, Au. You're a right-wing think-tank's dream.

It's not personal. It's just war.

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And yet those who hacked and exposed the e-mails from E.Anglia University weren't performing a public service ?

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I'm pretty sure the scientist weren't being paid TO counter global warming. They were merely paid for doing good science.

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And when Hugo Chavez comes right out and says

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And yet those who hacked and exposed the e-mails from E.Anglia University weren't performing a public service ?

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Can you quote me saying that, or did you imagine it?

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Umm... rappy, I will be polite this time and talk to you instead of about you.

OF COURSE they say they want to take over the world!

So????

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A logical extension of your original comment, by condoning 1 act, yet ignoring another.

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Umm... rappy, I will be polite this time and talk to you instead of about you.

OF COURSE they say they want to take over the world!

So????

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( I appreciate the sidebar into the zone of civility. May it not be the last time we meet here.)

"So ? "

2 things I want to say here, as we veer off topic -

1. When Islamic leaders boldly assert.. " We do believe as Muslims that the east and the west will one day be governed by the Sharia. Indeed we believe that one day the flag of Islam will fly over the White House " , that should give pause to not just every American, but any human being on the planet who values religious freedom. Or, in my case, freedom of NO religion.

2. Jesus gave his followers a great commission, to spread the word, to all men, across the world. The obvious goal, to convert followers to HIS word. Now, history has clearly shown that a large number of those spreading the word, did so with a sword or a gun, and not by peaceful 'testifying'. However, in MY life time, and in the recent modern history of the United States, rare is it that Christians have engaged in the sort of violence and aggression that can be found, routinely across the globe, by Muslims. Note that I didn't claim that NO Christians engage in such evil acts or brutish behavior, but there simply is NO comparison. 1 violent act by a Christian does not equate to a 100 similar acts by Muslims.

From my perspective, Christians and Muslims, more than any other religion, try to go out and either expand their followers, (conversion ) or intimidate , drive out those who believe something else. And as wacky as some Christian can be, by in large, one isn't likely to come home and find their family beheaded because they didn't read from the same religious book as their neighbors.




" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,

Would you care to use words to summarize your multimedia presentation?

--Anthony

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Hello,

Would you care to use words to summarize your multimedia presentation?

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Rep Allen West explains who it is we're fighting, by giving example after example of Muslims in direct conflict with the West, for some 1,300 years.

To sum up - This stuff ain't new.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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So the guy who leaked the documents has got caught. But it still seems to me he performed a public service.

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And yet those who hacked and exposed the e-mails from E.Anglia University weren't performing a public service ?

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Sure, sure - it's all just a Marxist conspiracy to expand government and redistrubute wealth. Your buttons are so easily pressed, Au. You're a right-wing think-tank's dream.

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And when Hugo Chavez comes right out and says that's exactly what this is all about, is HE a right-wing think-tank's dream as well ?

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Then why the hell did you even ask in the 1st place?

That's what the video shows. Which is why I put it up to begin with... DUH!




" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Which leaves me to echo in paraphrase the former poster's "So what?" in regards to the great Islamic threat. Islam is not only a small concern, but it is at the bottom of a long list of small concerns that are at the bottom of a long list of serious concerns.

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I find it humorous that you would presume to explain to a man of Spanish ancestry about the horrible Islamic threat.

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I really could care less if you agree with them or not, that is NOT the point.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

It's not xenophobia.

" For it is the doom of men that they forget " - Merlin.

But continue to keep barking up the wrong tree, Anthony.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Originally posted by Storymark:
Ah, so this has turned into another of Rap's "fear the Muslims" thread.

Boring.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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The thing that interests me here, is that on the one side, you have groups who, if we're to believe them, will usher in massive new taxes and unbelievable redistribution of wealth, and for what ? Absolutely no significant , measurable benefit to the cause they're allegedly so concerned about, saving the planet. Of course, the other side is falsely accused of wanting to poison the water and pollute the air, which only inflames this argument between the different camps in the scientific community.

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Ah, so this has turned into another of Rap's "fear the Muslims" thread.

Boring.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Hello,

Raptor's fear and hatred of the Muslims is actually off-topic.

His much more engaging initial purpose was to say things like this:

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The thing that interests me here, is that on the one side, you have groups who, if we're to believe them, will usher in massive new taxes and unbelievable redistribution of wealth, and for what ? Absolutely no significant , measurable benefit to the cause they're allegedly so concerned about, saving the planet. Of course, the other side is falsely accused of wanting to poison the water and pollute the air, which only inflames this argument between the different camps in the scientific community.

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Hello,

I seem to remember that years ago, before Global Warming was the prevailing theory, the specter of an Ice Age did in fact loom large on the minds of apocalyptic speculators. I'm not surprised to see the theory return in cyclical fashion.

Perhaps they should just split the differenca and call it Climate Instability.

--Anthony

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Global cooling was a conjecture during the 1970s of imminent cooling of the Earth's surface and atmosphere along with a posited commencement of glaciation. This hypothesis had little support in the scientific community, but gained temporary popular attention due to a combination of a slight downward trend of temperatures from the 1940s to the early 1970s and press reports that did not accurately reflect the scientific understanding of ice age cycles...

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