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Monday, February 20, 2012 3:14 PM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Quote:Originally posted by RionaEire: ... I still don't get it. How does aspirin have to do with sex? And how does it have to do with keeping your legs closed? Oh well. Not only is it not humorous, it doesn't make sense. Good point about drinks Byte. Frem, its good for Wendy to know what to look out for for when she starts dating, she's newly grown so that could come anytime now, its good for her to be prepared. "A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya
Monday, February 20, 2012 4:02 PM
RIONAEIRE
Beir bua agus beannacht
Monday, February 20, 2012 4:04 PM
ANTHONYT
Freedom is Important because People are Important
Monday, February 20, 2012 4:16 PM
Quote:Originally posted by RionaEire: "Its not logical" said in deep Spock voice. Okay I guess I sort of get it now, but why not put something else between your legs to hold them closed, aspirins are itty bitty tiny. ... Oh well. :) "A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya
Monday, February 20, 2012 4:17 PM
FREMDFIRMA
Quote:Originally posted by RionaEire: I think what Frem meant Niki is that there are people out there who seem to care about animals more than people, if they see a dog on the street they take it in, find a home for it, feed it, pet it, but if they see a man on the street they don't care. Lots of people seem more interested in giving to animal causes than giving to human causes. I think that's what Frem meant.
Quote:“Deserves it! I daresay he does. Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends." -Gandalf
Monday, February 20, 2012 4:24 PM
BYTEMITE
Monday, February 20, 2012 4:42 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AnthonyT: Though it IS possible to have sex in that position.
Quote:Conservatives need better porn.
Monday, February 20, 2012 4:44 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Bytemite: I had pretty much the same problem understanding the joke. Why an aspirin, and why not doggy style?
Monday, February 20, 2012 6:26 PM
OONJERAH
Monday, February 20, 2012 6:32 PM
Monday, February 20, 2012 6:56 PM
Quote:Originally posted by RionaEire: Do I want to know what a quaalude is? "A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya
Monday, February 20, 2012 6:58 PM
Monday, February 20, 2012 7:02 PM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Quote:Originally posted by AnthonyT: Quote:Originally posted by RionaEire: Do I want to know what a quaalude is? "A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya Hello, It's one of those medicines for people who aren't sick.
Tuesday, February 21, 2012 8:41 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Tuesday, February 21, 2012 10:00 AM
Quote:Originally posted by RionaEire: Do I want to know what a quaalude is?
Quote:Quaaludes or methaqualone was a prescription drug used in the treatment of anxiety, called an anxiolytic, or to promote sleep. Methaqualone was a central nervous system depressant, and is comparable to barbiturates. When it was used in prescribed doses, it tended to promote relaxation, sleepiness, and for some, a feeling of euphoria. This euphoric feeling was one of the reasons that quaaludes, also known by their street name of “ludes,” began to be used as a recreational drug. They were a popular drug for abuse during much of the 1970s, though they became increasingly more difficult to find as both the US and Britain began to tighten control around their use and dispensation. Concern over the abuse of quaaludes become so high that that drugs were withdrawn from the market in the US in 1984. Methaqualone is now considered a Schedule I drug, and is defined as having no legitimate use because of its high risk of addiction. Much of Europe has also banned the drug, but in certain countries, like South Africa it is becoming increasingly popular as a recreational drug.
Tuesday, February 21, 2012 3:53 PM
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JONGSSTRAW
Wednesday, February 22, 2012 4:28 AM
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Wednesday, February 22, 2012 7:59 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Jongsstraw: I tried cocaine and I liked it, what's not to like ?
Wednesday, February 22, 2012 9:40 PM
MAGONSDAUGHTER
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: Marijuana is safer than alcohol and doesn't cause aggression. Yet it is a Schedule ONE drug, while Morphine, Opium and Oxy are Schedule TWO drugs...and that says it all.
Thursday, February 23, 2012 6:38 AM
Thursday, February 23, 2012 6:43 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Magonsdaughter: Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: Marijuana is safer than alcohol and doesn't cause aggression. Yet it is a Schedule ONE drug, while Morphine, Opium and Oxy are Schedule TWO drugs...and that says it all. I've got to disagree here, having worked over the years with many, many people who have been long term habitual users of marijuana, its long term affects are pretty serious, and for many habitual users there are aggressive behaviours, particularly during withdrawal or non use periods. I've actually come to quite despise it as a drug because of the conquences I have observed. There are no free rides. You use something on a regular that alters that way your brain works, there will be consequences.
Thursday, February 23, 2012 11:01 AM
Thursday, February 23, 2012 12:44 PM
Quote:Heavy marijuana smokers show less evidence of lung injury than heavy tobacco smokers, and it may be cannabinoids that are protecting them from developing a condition like emphysema. That's according to the principal investigator of a study done at the University of California at Los Angeles (UCLA). Speaking at the third annual meeting of the International Cannabis Research Society here, Dr. Donald Tashkin, a pulmonologist and UCLA professor of medicine, concluded heavy marijuana use did not cause the same degree of lung injury as tobacco smoke. "My own feeling is that marijuana smokers probably will not develop emphysema as a consequence of smoking marijuana," he said. "It may be that the THC (delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol) in marijuana could have different effects on inflammatory cells, which may mediate injury in the lung." Moreover, the phagocytes gathered from the lungs of marijuana smokers do not have the same properties as those gathered from the lungs of tobacco smokers. "We have previously shown that the macrophages that are harvested from the rinse-out of the lungs of marijuana smokers seem not to be activated," he said. "They do not release toxic oxygen species, either under basal conditions or under stimulated conditions nearly to the extent that tobacco macrophages do. If anything, basal secretion of superoxide seems to be reduced in the marijuana smokers." http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_health1.shtml. Learn something new every day! On the subject of aggression, there may be more to it than the marijuana alone, apparently:Quote:Does smoking marijuana cause aggression? In general, after using marijuana a person experiences a sedating effect, which makes the drug less likely to cause violence in users than other substances such as alcohol and stimulants (e.g., amphetamines and cocaine). However, sometimes when marijuana is used it can cause fear, anxiety, panic or paranoia, which can result in an aggressive outburst. For most people, however, once the effects of the drug wear off, their behaviour gradually improves. Studies show that violence can occur more often among people who use marijuana regularly, rather than those who use it occasionally or not at all. It is unclear why this is the case, but it may be because people with violent tendencies can also have a range of other psychosocial problems and are therefore more likely to use marijuana. Marijuana is also part of the illegal drug market, which may increase the chances of violence occurring in some social interactions. Research also shows that marijuana users who commit violent acts usually have a history of violence before they start using the drug. In addition, when people are withdrawing from marijuana they can be irritable, which can lead to abusive or aggressive behaviour. http://adai.washington.edu/marijuana/factsheets/aggression.htm defend marijuana because I believe it to be far less harmful than booze or cigs, both of which are legal, and because far too many people are in jail for its use, when others who have committed far more serious crimes aren't. Like politicians ;o) Just noticed you wrote "MANY" habitual users. Must be different Down Under or something, given I've been in the "drug culture" all my life and never met one of them. Huh.
Quote:Does smoking marijuana cause aggression? In general, after using marijuana a person experiences a sedating effect, which makes the drug less likely to cause violence in users than other substances such as alcohol and stimulants (e.g., amphetamines and cocaine). However, sometimes when marijuana is used it can cause fear, anxiety, panic or paranoia, which can result in an aggressive outburst. For most people, however, once the effects of the drug wear off, their behaviour gradually improves. Studies show that violence can occur more often among people who use marijuana regularly, rather than those who use it occasionally or not at all. It is unclear why this is the case, but it may be because people with violent tendencies can also have a range of other psychosocial problems and are therefore more likely to use marijuana. Marijuana is also part of the illegal drug market, which may increase the chances of violence occurring in some social interactions. Research also shows that marijuana users who commit violent acts usually have a history of violence before they start using the drug. In addition, when people are withdrawing from marijuana they can be irritable, which can lead to abusive or aggressive behaviour. http://adai.washington.edu/marijuana/factsheets/aggression.htm defend marijuana because I believe it to be far less harmful than booze or cigs, both of which are legal, and because far too many people are in jail for its use, when others who have committed far more serious crimes aren't. Like politicians ;o) Just noticed you wrote "MANY" habitual users. Must be different Down Under or something, given I've been in the "drug culture" all my life and never met one of them. Huh.
Thursday, February 23, 2012 12:53 PM
Quote:I've had FRIENDS over the years who are regular marijuana users, and never once seen what you described unless there are other drugs at work as well.
Thursday, February 23, 2012 1:12 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AnthonyT: I've noticed this same aggressive behavior in people who haven't had their morning coffee.
Thursday, February 23, 2012 1:40 PM
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Friday, February 24, 2012 4:53 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Magonsdaughter: I've have had friends who have used for years and I used heavily for several years. I can honestly say that I do not know of one person on this planet who has used any mind altering drug for an extended period of time - and I include alcohol - who has not had some sort of impact on ones cognitive abilities as a result. Myself included. There is dope and there is dope. Not all are equal. Not all produce the same effects. The high thc/low cannabanoid ratios are more likely to produce aggressive behaviours and/or psychotic symtpoms than high cannabanoid strains. The days of believing that marijuana is a harmless drug are well over, although some people may suffer less side effects that others. I believe that people should be able to use whatever mind altering drug they choose without being fearful of prosecution. I have no issue with this. As adults we need to take personal responsibility, and I agree we seem to have a strong need as a species to move outside of ordinary realities or to experience heightened states. I have no issue with this either. But I think we should also be honest and grown about the effects of using anything heavily or long term. i do not believe it is helpful to speak of marijuana as harmless when discussing the issue of whether drugs should be decriminalised. I think it is more truthful to discuss peoples right to self determination.
Friday, February 24, 2012 10:36 AM
Quote:having worked over the years with many, many people who have been long term habitual users of marijuana, its long term affects are pretty serious, and for many habitual users there are aggressive behaviours, particularly during withdrawal or non use periods.
Friday, February 24, 2012 12:24 PM
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Friday, February 24, 2012 9:54 PM
Quote:I don't agree with you that it is less harmful than ciggies or alcohol
Friday, February 24, 2012 11:21 PM
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Monday, February 27, 2012 9:53 AM
STORYMARK
Quote:Originally posted by Magonsdaughter: I think that the research will consolidate in the next 10 to 20 years, and will show much more clearly the actual affects and I predict that the outcomes will be on a par with the affects or alcohol, or worse. I believe that it will be less harmful physically, but more harmful cognitively. Just my predictions.
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