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Friday, March 2, 2012 1:04 PM

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

I asked about this in another thread and got a couple of suggestions; one was that I ask it in a separate thread. So I'm asking:

I'm working on a sign, not sure how to word it and would love any suggestions (no, I mean REAL suggestions) on a related subject.

"Sharia Law? No real danger.
_______ Law? VERY real danger"

Having trouble with the blank. "American religious", "Evangelical"; I'm not sure what wording fits well. I'm not even sure that's how I want to put it...has to be very short; long signs are no good. So I'm hoping for suggestions. The other side will be "Government out of women's health". And yes, I know what Raptor's suggestion will be, but I want REAL ones, if anyone cares to contribute.

Any alternate wording at all would be welcome that gets the message across that Sharia law isn't something we need to be bothered about, but the current issues regarding religions in America is something to actually fear. Thanx.

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Friday, March 2, 2012 1:44 PM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important

Hello,

I'd go with Puritan, myself. It harkens back to that whole Red Letter business quite nicely.

--Anthony

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"In every war, the state enacts a tax of freedom upon the citizenry. The unspoken promise is that the tax shall be revoked at war's end. Endless war holds no such promise. Hence, Eternal War is Eternal Slavery." --Admiral Robert J. Henner

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Friday, March 2, 2012 1:51 PM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important

.-------------------.
| Puritan Politics.|
|...Scarier Than...|
|....Sharia Law....|
.-----------------
........||
........||
........||

Hello,

Another idea.

ETA: Having trouble formatting it right. But it says:
Puritan Politics
Scarier Than
Sharia Law

--Anthony

_______________________________________________

"In every war, the state enacts a tax of freedom upon the citizenry. The unspoken promise is that the tax shall be revoked at war's end. Endless war holds no such promise. Hence, Eternal War is Eternal Slavery." --Admiral Robert J. Henner

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Friday, March 2, 2012 2:32 PM

OONJERAH

Stone Age Law

I considered "Christian Law," "Protestant Law," "Puritanical Law." Nothing quite fits because of the
diversity of Protestant Fundamentalist Christians <= they can't even agree with each other about much.

Personal responsibility is the Truth.
Self determination triumphs over reaction.

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Friday, March 2, 2012 5:39 PM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up

Just say "Christian Law".

It'll appeal to your base, who think all Christians want women in the kitchen, barefoot and preganant, want all gay folks in jail, and want to ban contraception and abortion.

Of course the majority of Christians who don't feel that way will be upset, but it'll be a great sign.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Friday, March 2, 2012 6:11 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

You're a bright Woman Nikki.

I'm sure you could have come up with a cute slogan all on your own.

You and I know that this isn't asking for help.

No... this is an attempt at feeding the trolls.

Good on Geezer for replying back in an equally non-confrontational way.

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." ~Shepherd Book

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Friday, March 2, 2012 6:30 PM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important

Hello,

I actually think she needed to condense the message, because her original premise was too voluminous.

--Anthony

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Note to self: Mr. Raptor believes that women who want to control their reproductive processes are sluts.

Reference thread: http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=18&t=51196

Never forget what this man is. You keep forgiving him his trespasses and speak to him as though he is a reasonable human being. You keep forgetting the things he's advocated. If you respond to this man again, you are being foolish.

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Friday, March 2, 2012 6:35 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

Quote:
Originally posted by Geezer:
Just say "Christian Law".

It'll appeal to your base, who think all Christians want women in the kitchen, barefoot and preganant, want all gay folks in jail, and want to ban contraception and abortion.

Of course the majority of Christians who don't feel that way...

... will still vote for those American Taliban who DO want exactly that. [/snark]

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Friday, March 2, 2012 6:36 PM

KWICKO

Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
You're a bright Woman Nikki.

I'm sure you could have come up with a cute slogan all on your own.

You and I know that this isn't asking for help.

No... this is an attempt at feeding the trolls.

So, are you full yet?

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Friday, March 2, 2012 6:56 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Don't be like that Kwicko

Trolls are much more abrasive than I am.

Okay....

I'll make a slogan, just to prove I'm on your side.

"Sharia Law? No real danger.
Martial Law? VERY real danger"

Whatever side you're on, mindless Martial Law is a threat we all need to fight against since we're quickly becoming a 3rd world country and it could happen when gas reaches 6 bucks a gallon and millions of people are working minimum wage an hour to barely pay for a gallon after federal and state tax.

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." ~Shepherd Book

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Friday, March 2, 2012 6:59 PM

KWICKO

You really should ask yourself why gas prices are rising when we're at 15-year lows for demand, historic highs for supply, and gas and oil production have INCREASED since Obama took office.

None of it matchs up to what the conservatives want you to think. ;)

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Friday, March 2, 2012 7:08 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Show me proof of any of that Kwicko.

Supply, at least US supply, is much lower.

I don't deal in theoreticals.

Although, I am in agreement not to touch our own supplies, but not for the reasons the bleeding heart liberals think. I want to be the last country with oil.

You think they're Fing us now? Just wait until Mid-East-sister-in-a-burka will cut off her boyfriends testicle for just an ounce of gasoline.

F-them

We're doing our grandkids the biggest favor of all by paying high prices if the only other option is spending our own stuff.

In the end, in the world of the gas-less, the one with gas is king.

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." ~Shepherd Book

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Friday, March 2, 2012 7:12 PM

KWICKO

Gas and oil are also our #1 export now.

None of what I posted is "theoretical", Jack. That you don't like it, doesn't make it untrue.

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Friday, March 2, 2012 7:14 PM

STORYMARK

Quote:
Originally posted by Geezer:

Of course the majority of Christians who don't feel that way will be upset...

Funny, since they don't seem to get all that upset when prominent conservatives propagate that supposed myth.

The selectively silent majority, I suppose...

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Friday, March 2, 2012 7:18 PM

KWICKO

http://www.indexmundi.com/energy.aspx?country=us&product=oil&graph=pro
duction

See that downward trend since '85? See when it reversed and started going up again in 2008?

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Friday, March 2, 2012 7:22 PM

KWICKO

Quote:
Although, I am in agreement not to touch our own supplies, but not for the reasons the bleeding heart liberals think. I want to be the last country with oil.

Why would you think that "bleeding heart liberals" wouldn't think that? We generally look much further ahead than you knee-jerk conservatives do, and we plan accordingly. Why do you think we push for alternative energy sources? I'd love to be the last nation with gas and oil, but even then, it's going to run out someday, and I'd rather be the FIRST nation with a solid alternative infrastructure.

It's not that "bleeding heart liberals" disagree with your point; we're just far better at packaging and selling it than you are!

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Friday, March 2, 2012 7:46 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

How is that possible when all of our offshore drilling is shut off.

Oh, don't tell me.... I forgot.....

We don't have much more to give but corn since we gave all of our labor jobs to Mexico in the 70's-80's and all of our tech jobs to India/China in the 2000's

Yep..... most of my college degree friends and family are working at Old Navy or Pizza Hut if they're lucky with their Liberal Arts degrees.

THANK, ME, I DIDN'T GO TO COLLEGE!!!!

Sure, I don't like it, but then again, I have no mortgage. Those mighty high gas prices and the effect they have on food and everything else is effecting you much more than it is me.

He ain't my President. And I hated Bush almost as much before he was in, BTW.

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." ~Shepherd Book

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Friday, March 2, 2012 7:54 PM

KWICKO

Quote:
How is that possible when all of our offshore drilling is shut off.

Why do you think that? You're being spoon-fed some spurious information, I fear.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Friday, March 2, 2012 8:02 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Don't ask me, ask Obama.

Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:
How is that possible when all of our offshore drilling is shut off.

Why do you think that? You're being spoon-fed some spurious information, I fear.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." ~Shepherd Book

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Friday, March 2, 2012 8:04 PM

KWICKO

Quote:
Sure, I don't like it, but then again, I have no mortgage. Those mighty high gas prices and the effect they have on food and everything else is effecting you much more than it is me.

You seem to have me mixed up with someone you've invented in your mind. I have no mortgage. I have no car payment. I have but two credit cards, on which I owe a grand total of $263 today. I have no student loans, because I never got any. I was in a unique position for college - no scholarships that I could find (because I was a high school dropout who stayed out for ten years working at least two jobs that entire time, and sometimes three), no financial aid because my parents made too much money (never mind that I left home at 16 and never lived with them again, nor ever took money from them), no grants, no nothin'. I paid my tuition with my own money, bought my books myself, worked and paid my rent, gave up my car and bought a bicycle, and lived like a monk. And the money still ran out before I graduated, so I don't have a degree, but have an education, and have worked hard since I was a kid, and anticipate working until the day I die.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Friday, March 2, 2012 8:07 PM

KWICKO

Quote:
Don't ask me, ask Obama.

Ask him what, exactly? Why they're issuing new drilling permits for the Gulf?

Do you really think that the President can wave his hand and make gas prices go up?

And more importantly, do you really think that any President WOULD do that in an election year? Remember, gas was quite a bit higher in 2008, before Obama's election.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Friday, March 2, 2012 8:13 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Wow....

I'd say we were twins, but I guess I'll settle for identical cousins.

We're both full of awesomeness, for real....

You spread it your way, and I'll spread it my way.

Either way, we're about one and and a million in this F-d up culture in this F-d up country.

A large part of me plays the Martyr you're displaying here, but I choose to keep that part of my self with the family.

Charity starts at home. In these times, I cant think of anyone more worthy of my good times than blood.

Good luck saving the world. Maybe if the partisan pretenses and biases and hatred were ever dropped we could do it together.
~6

Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:
Sure, I don't like it, but then again, I have no mortgage. Those mighty high gas prices and the effect they have on food and everything else is effecting you much more than it is me.

You seem to have me mixed up with someone you've invented in your mind. I have no mortgage. I have no car payment. I have but two credit cards, on which I owe a grand total of $263 today. I have no student loans, because I never got any. I was in a unique position for college - no scholarships that I could find (because I was a high school dropout who stayed out for ten years working at least two jobs that entire time, and sometimes three), no financial aid because my parents made too much money (never mind that I left home at 16 and never lived with them again, nor ever took money from them), no grants, no nothin'. I paid my tuition with my own money, bought my books myself, worked and paid my rent, gave up my car and bought a bicycle, and lived like a monk. And the money still ran out before I graduated, so I don't have a degree, but have an education, and have worked hard since I was a kid, and anticipate working until the day I die.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." ~Shepherd Book

EDITED TO ADD:

That is the only difference between us. Working until we die. That's not on my barometer.... at least for money. I don't believe that I'm far from being able to take on people pro-bono as projects. When my house is done an OCD guy like me has to have a worthy project.

F! The Lottery!

I made my own Lottery bitches!

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Friday, March 2, 2012 8:19 PM

KWICKO

Quote:
Originally posted by Niki2:
I asked about this in another thread and got a couple of suggestions; one was that I ask it in a separate thread. So I'm asking:

I'm working on a sign, not sure how to word it and would love any suggestions (no, I mean REAL suggestions) on a related subject.

"Sharia Law? No real danger.
_______ Law? VERY real danger"

Having trouble with the blank. "American religious", "Evangelical"; I'm not sure what wording fits well. I'm not even sure that's how I want to put it...has to be very short; long signs are no good. So I'm hoping for suggestions. The other side will be "Government out of women's health". And yes, I know what Raptor's suggestion will be, but I want REAL ones, if anyone cares to contribute.

Any alternate wording at all would be welcome that gets the message across that Sharia law isn't something we need to be bothered about, but the current issues regarding religions in America is something to actually fear. Thanx.

"Christian Fundamentalist Law? VERY Real Danger!"

Makes it pretty clear you're not targeting ALL Christians, just the whacko fundies (like the Westboro Baptists and Frothy Rick "Sanitarium").

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Friday, March 2, 2012 8:35 PM

OONJERAH

Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Okay....

I'll make a slogan, just to prove I'm on your side.

"Sharia Law? No real danger.
Martial Law? VERY real danger"

Whatever side you're on, mindless Martial Law is a threat we all need to fight against since we're quickly
becoming a 3rd world country and it could happen when gas reaches 6 bucks a gallon and millions of people are
working minimum wage an hour to barely pay for a gallon after federal and state tax.

^Yeah.

Personal responsibility is the Truth.
Self determination triumphs over reaction.

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Friday, March 2, 2012 8:40 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Don't know you Oonjerah...

But I think I like you :)

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." ~Shepherd Book

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Saturday, March 3, 2012 4:18 AM

FREMDFIRMA

Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:
Originally posted by Geezer:
Just say "Christian Law".

It'll appeal to your base, who think all Christians want women in the kitchen, barefoot and preganant, want all gay folks in jail, and want to ban contraception and abortion.

Of course the majority of Christians who don't feel that way...

... will still vote for those American Taliban who DO want exactly that. [/snark]

Which is, where it is for me - till Christianity outright rejects and banishes these folk, publicly and irrevocably... so long as they consider such vermin better than their intended victims...
IMHO they've smeared THEMSELVES with the big brush.

Individuals I take as people, one by one, but as an institution I've no respect for most organized religions whatever, and even less so for one which has admitted it's downright threatening intentions towards me and reinforces em every day.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Saturday, March 3, 2012 5:26 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Anthony,you NAILED IT! That's close enough, and short enough, thank you very much. I wish there had been other suggestions, because I think there would have been some good ones, maybe even a better one, but this got thread jacked pretty early, and that's okay, 'cuz you gave me a great one.

I dunno where 6string got confused, or else he's snarking, because it's the CONSERVATIVE base which wants all the things he listed, but eh, he's not important anyway. He's just a puppet of Alt.Univ.'s in this thread, and I see the usual suspect took the bait and ran with it, as always.

I wouldn't use "Christian" because it's NOT Christian law that's the problem, obviously. It's a very small segment of Christians who the majority of the public rejects anyway.

Thanx again, Anthony: that's the one. As to the asshole who claimed I was trolling, it's irrelevant that you believe that despite it being completely false, given we know where your mind is at. I think up a number of things that I just can't condense down far enough for a sign or find the right wording for. I just don't ask for help with them here (I usually go to Cafe Press and do a search, since most of my stuff has come from bumper stickers, or ask someone from Occupy or Choey); if I can't find anything, I either accept that they can't be made into sign material, or I keep ruminating on it until something comes up.

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