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The Mother

POSTED BY: CANTTAKESKY
UPDATED: Sunday, March 4, 2012 13:59
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Friday, March 2, 2012 9:02 AM

CANTTAKESKY


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The Mother by Gwendolyn Brooks

Abortions will not let you forget.
You remember the children you got that you did not get,
The damp small pulps with a little or with no hair,
The singers and workers that never handled the air.
You will never neglect or beat
Them, or silence or buy with a sweet.
You will never wind up the sucking-thumb
Or scuttle off ghosts that come.
You will never leave them, controlling your luscious sigh,
Return for a snack of them, with gobbling mother-eye.

I have heard in the voices of the wind the voices of my dim killed
children.
I have contracted. I have eased
My dim dears at the breasts they could never suck.
I have said, Sweets, if I sinned, if I seized
Your luck
And your lives from your unfinished reach,
If I stole your births and your names,
Your straight baby tears and your games,
Your stilted or lovely loves, your tumults, your marriages, aches,
and your deaths,
If I poisoned the beginnings of your breaths,
Believe that even in my deliberateness I was not deliberate.
Though why should I whine,
Whine that the crime was other than mine?--
Since anyhow you are dead.
Or rather, or instead,
You were never made.
But that too, I am afraid,
Is faulty: oh, what shall I say, how is the truth to be said?
You were born, you had body, you died.
It is just that you never giggled or planned or cried.

Believe me, I loved you all.
Believe me, I knew you, though faintly, and I loved, I loved you
All.

Gwendolyn Brooks

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Friday, March 2, 2012 4:51 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!





" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Friday, March 2, 2012 5:06 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Conservatives firmly believe that life begins at conception and ends at birth.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Friday, March 2, 2012 5:10 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Conservatives firmly believe that life begins at conception and ends at birth.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill



Huh? That doesn't even make any sense.

If you're mock conservatives and TRY to be funny, at least steal a joke from you buddy Bill Maher , and say " Life begins at erection " , or something like that.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Friday, March 2, 2012 6:28 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Conservatives firmly believe that life begins at conception and ends at birth.




Huh? That doesn't even make any sense.

If you're mock conservatives and TRY to be funny, at least steal a joke from you buddy Bill Maher , and say " Life begins at erection " , or something like that.



No, THAT doen't make sense.

Congrats on actually getting Bill Maher's name right. That's once in a row for you!

Since it seems you can't understand my statement, I'll explain it like I would to a (rather slow) child. Conservatives believe that a human life is only worth caring about between the moment it's conceived and the moment it's born. The second that fetus leaves the birth canal, conservatives believe it's on its own, and never have another care about that person again.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Friday, March 2, 2012 8:48 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


No they don't . What an idiotic, lame & purely fictional lie you're dishing out.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Saturday, March 3, 2012 4:47 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Conservatives believe that a human life is only worth caring about between the moment it's conceived and the moment it's born. The second that fetus leaves the birth canal, conservatives believe it's on its own, and never have another care about that person again- kwicko

No they don't . What an idiotic, lame & purely fictional lie you're dishing out.-rappy



OH YOO HOO! RAPPY, I'm going to post just to bring your quotes (once again) to the fore. Something about the young, the old, and the sick. I guess your attitude is still "scrape 'em off"


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Saturday, March 3, 2012 10:33 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



My attitude never WAS that, so I really have no clue of what you're talking about, Sig.

I think, as has been the case here before, you've completely missed the point I was making.




" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Saturday, March 3, 2012 1:22 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


Yay - a poetry thread.

Infant Sorrow by William Blake

My mother groaned, my father wept,
Into the dangerous world I leapt;
Helpless, naked, piping loud,
Like a fiend hid in a cloud.

Struggling in my father's hands,
Striving against my swaddling bands,
Bound and weary, I thought best
To sulk upon my mother's breast.

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Sunday, March 4, 2012 4:54 AM

CANTTAKESKY


A Sad Child by Margaret Atwood

You're sad because you're sad.
It's psychic. It's the age. It's chemical.
Go see a shrink or take a pill,
or hug your sadness like an eyeless doll
you need to sleep.

Well, all children are sad
but some get over it.
Count your blessings. Better than that,
buy a hat. Buy a coat or pet.
Take up dancing to forget.

Forget what?
Your sadness, your shadow,
whatever it was that was done to you
the day of the lawn party
when you came inside flushed with the sun,
your mouth sulky with sugar,
in your new dress with the ribbon
and the ice-cream smear,
and said to yourself in the bathroom,
I am not the favorite child.

My darling, when it comes
right down to it
and the light fails and the fog rolls in
and you're trapped in your overturned body
under a blanket or burning car,

and the red flame is seeping out of you
and igniting the tarmac beside you head
or else the floor, or else the pillow,
none of us is;
or else we all are.

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Sunday, March 4, 2012 4:56 AM

CANTTAKESKY


The Little Boy and the Old Man by Shel Silverstein

Said the little boy, "Sometimes I drop my spoon."
Said the old man, "I do that too."
The little boy whispered, "I wet my pants."
"I do that too," laughed the little old man.
Said the little boy, "I often cry."
The old man nodded, "So do I."
"But worst of all," said the boy, "it seems
Grown-ups don't pay attention to me."
And he felt the warmth of a wrinkled old hand.
"I know what you mean," said the little old man.

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Sunday, March 4, 2012 5:19 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


RAPPY, I'm only quoting you. If you don't know what I'm saying, it's because you don't know what YOU said. There's your quote. Go read it, and then tell me how else it should be interpreted. Because it's impossible to put any other spin on it, but feel free to try.

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Sunday, March 4, 2012 8:03 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
RAPPY, I'm only quoting you. If you don't know what I'm saying, it's because you don't know what YOU said. There's your quote. Go read it, and then tell me how else it should be interpreted. Because it's impossible to put any other spin on it, but feel free to try.



Hello,

If you have a signature line, it's not coming through on my end.

--Anthony


_______________________________________________

Note to self: Mr. Raptor believes that women who want to control their reproductive processes are sluts.

Reference thread: http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=18&t=51196

Never forget what this man is. You keep forgiving him his trespasses and speak to him as though he is a reasonable human being. You keep forgetting the things he's advocated. If you respond to this man again, you are being foolish.

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Sunday, March 4, 2012 8:23 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
RAPPY, I'm only quoting you. If you don't know what I'm saying, it's because you don't know what YOU said. There's your quote. Go read it, and then tell me how else it should be interpreted. Because it's impossible to put any other spin on it, but feel free to try.



No, that's not my quote. You can't cut/ paste properly, it seems. Go back and try it again. You've committed a colossal quote fail, by posting 2 completely unrelated comments, out of context, from different discussions.

If you aren't posting an actual quote, then you're taking it OUT of context.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Sunday, March 4, 2012 8:34 AM

CANTTAKESKY


God put a dream like steel in my soul.

------
The Negro Mother by Langston Hughes

Children, I come back today
To tell you a story of the long dark way
That I had to climb, that I had to know
In order that the race might live and grow.
Look at my face -- dark as the night --
Yet shining like the sun with love's true light.
I am the dark girl who crossed the red sea
Carrying in my body the seed of the free.
I am the woman who worked in the field
Bringing the cotton and the corn to yield.
I am the one who labored as a slave,
Beaten and mistreated for the work that I gave --
Children sold away from me, I'm husband sold, too.
No safety , no love, no respect was I due.

Three hundred years in the deepest South:
But God put a song and a prayer in my mouth .
God put a dream like steel in my soul.
Now, through my children, I'm reaching the goal.

Now, through my children, young and free,
I realized the blessing deed to me.
I couldn't read then. I couldn't write.
I had nothing, back there in the night.
Sometimes, the valley was filled with tears,
But I kept trudging on through the lonely years.
Sometimes, the road was hot with the sun,
But I had to keep on till my work was done:
I had to keep on! No stopping for me --
I was the seed of the coming Free.
I nourished the dream that nothing could smother
Deep in my breast -- the Negro mother.
I had only hope then , but now through you,
Dark ones of today, my dreams must come true:
All you dark children in the world out there,
Remember my sweat, my pain, my despair.
Remember my years, heavy with sorrow --
And make of those years a torch for tomorrow.
Make of my pass a road to the light
Out of the darkness, the ignorance, the night.
Lift high my banner out of the dust.
Stand like free men supporting my trust.
Believe in the right, let none push you back.
Remember the whip and the slaver's track.
Remember how the strong in struggle and strife
Still bar you the way, and deny you life --
But march ever forward, breaking down bars.
Look ever upward at the sun and the stars.
Oh, my dark children, may my dreams and my prayers
Impel you forever up the great stairs --
For I will be with you till no white brother
Dares keep down the children of the Negro Mother.


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Sunday, March 4, 2012 11:08 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Quote:

The Mother
CANTTAKESKY



How dare you complain about the federal govt spending billions of taxdollars to successfully genocide 100-million US citizens, so far!

How dare you complain about a black president paying billions of taxdollars to genocide over 50% of all black babies in USA today!

You must a racist who hates all black people!


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Sunday, March 4, 2012 1:59 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
RAPPY, I'm only quoting you. If you don't know what I'm saying, it's because you don't know what YOU said. There's your quote. Go read it, and then tell me how else it should be interpreted. Because it's impossible to put any other spin on it, but feel free to try.



Hello,

If you have a signature line, it's not coming through on my end.

--Anthony


_______________________________________________

Note to self: Mr. Raptor believes that women who want to control their reproductive processes are sluts.

Reference thread: http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=18&t=51196

Never forget what this man is. You keep forgiving him his trespasses and speak to him as though he is a reasonable human being. You keep forgetting the things he's advocated. If you respond to this man again, you are being foolish.




It's Signy's tagline, right up by her avatar and username. And those are Rappy's exact words.

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