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Rush Limbaugh (2/29): A Georgetown co-ed told Rep. Nancy Pelosi's hearing that the women in her law school program are having so much sex that they're going broke, so you and I should pay for their birth control....Georgetown law student Sandra Fluke said that it's too expensive to have sex in law school without mandated insurance coverage. Apparently, four out of every ten co-eds are having so much sex that it's hard to make ends meet if they have to pay for their own contraception, Fluke's research shows."

Can you imagine if you're her parents how proud of Sandra Fluke you would be? Your daughter goes up to a congressional hearing conducted by the Botox-filled Nancy Pelosi and testifies she's having so much sex she can't afford her own birth control pills and she agrees that Obama should provide them, or the Pope. "'Forty percent of the female students at Georgetown Law reported to us that they struggled financially as a result of this policy (Georgetown student insurance not covering contraception), Fluke reported. It costs a female student $3,000 to have protected sex over the course of her three-year stint in law school, according to her calculations.

"'Without insurance coverage, contraception, as you know, can cost a woman over $3,000 during law school,' Fluke told the hearing. $3,000 for birth control in three years? That's a thousand dollars a year of sex -- and, she wants us to pay for it."...You guys who are thinking you're not gonna go to college? Let me just say one thing to you: Georgetown. They're admitting before congressional committee that they're having so much sex they can't afford the birth control pills!

Rush Limbaugh (2/29): What does it say about the college co-ed Sandra Fluke, who goes before a congressional committee and essentially says that she must be paid to have sex, what does that make her? It makes her a slut, right? It makes her a prostitute. She wants to be paid to have sex. She's having so much sex she can't afford the contraception. She wants you and me and the taxpayers to pay her to have sex. What does that make us? We're the pimps.... The johns? We would be the johns? No! We're not the johns...Yeah, that's right. Pimp's not the right word. Okay, so she's not a slut. She's "round heeled."

Rush Limbaugh (3/1): The left has been thrown into an outright conniption fit.... to what I said yesterday about Susan Fluke -- or Sandra Fluke, whatever her name is -- the Georgetown student who went before a congressional committee and said she's having so much sex, she's going broke buying contraceptives and wants us to buy them. I said, "Well, what would you call someone who wants us to pay for her to have sex? What would you call that woman? You'd call 'em a slut, a prostitute or whatever."...

Look, at least I didn't call her "a woman driver," and I'll tell you this, you people on the left: I'll happily buy her all the aspirin she wants....We would happily buy Sandra Fluke all the aspirin she wants. What could that possibly cost. But contraceptives? So much sex at Georgetown?...

I will buy all of the women at Georgetown University as much aspirin to put between their knees as they want.

Rush Limbaugh (3/1): Where are the guys here? Do they not have a role here? We assume they're having sex with guys....

According to Planned Parenthood -- and they should know -- birth control pills cost between $15 to $50 a month. So, at most, that would be $600 a year. What is Sandra Fluke buying? We then -- I didn't do this, but a member of the staff well-versed in these matters went to Amazon to check the purchase of condoms. And essentially what we found is that you could

buy the equivalent of using five condoms a day for $953, and if you paid for it at once you could get free shipping. And everybody's in a hurry here. So free shipping would matter. Nine hundred fifty-three dollars. So Planned Parenthood, $600 bucks a year. Condoms, $953 a year....

Sandra Fluke reported to Pelosi: "It costs a female student $3,000 to have protected sex over the course of her three-year stint in law school, according to her calculations. 'Without insurance coverage, contraception, as you know, can cost a woman over $3,000 during law school,' Fluke told the hearing. ... That’s a thousand dollars a year of sex -- and, she wants us to pay for it." Now, what does that make her? She wants us to buy her sex. She wants us to pay for her sex, and she went to a congressional committee to close the sale....

"'For a lot of students, like me, who are on public interest scholarships, that’s practically an entire summer’s salary,' she complains." A thousand dollars, $3,000, practically an entire summer salary that they now have to spend on sex. So she earns enough money in just one summer to pay for three full years of sex, and they're full years because she and her co-ed classmates are having sex nearly three times a day for three years straight, apparently.

Well, that's what the numbers add up to! We've run 'em here: $953 for condoms on Amazon. That's a year. That's close to a thousand bucks. Why aren't condoms provided free by this stupid policy? Why only birth control pills? No, I'm not advocating. I'm just asking the question. At $1 a condom, if she shops at CVS pharmacy's website, that $3,000 would buy her 3,000 condoms or a thousand of them a year. We've done all kinds of research on this. And what about these deadbeat boyfriends or random hookups that these babes are encountering here, having sex with nearly three times a day? While in law school.

If Fluke is gonna ask the government to force anybody to foot the bill for her friends' birth control, shouldn't it be these guys? Who pays for the abortions? Oops! We already know that, too. So that's where this all started, that story. That's where it all started. A woman who goes to law school at Georgetown goes to a congressional hearing where Pelosi is (crying), "I'm going broke having sex! I need... I need the government to provide me condoms and contraception. It's not fair." Okay, so this is a law student at a congressional committee asking for us ... to ... pay ... for ... the ... things ... that ... make ... it ... possible ... for ... her ... to ... have ... sex.

Therefore we are paying her to have sex.

Therefore we are paying her for having sex.

We are getting screwed even though we don't meet her personally!...

Ms. Fluke, have you ever heard of not having sex? Have you ever heard of not having sex so often? What next that you can't afford are you gonna go to Pelosi and say we need to buy? Mink? A Volt? A Prius? What next are you going to want, Ms. Fluke, that you see etched in misery on the faces of fellow students at Georgetown because they don't have? "When I look around my campus, I see the faces of the women affected..."

Prove it! What is "on their faces"? Acne? What is it, acne? Zits? What's on their faces that tells you? Seriously! You know, I'm the mayor of Realville. I live in Literalville. This is hilarious. It's absolutely skyrocketing hilarious to have this portrayed as the latest killer disease (brought to you by the Republicans, of course).

Folks, if you ask 'em -- if you ask 'em -- the Washington, DC, Department of Health will send you free condoms and lube. The DC Department of Health free condoms and lube if you just ask 'em for it! So, Ms. Fluke and the rest of you feminazis, here's the deal: If we are going to pay for your contraceptives and thus pay for you to have sex, we want something for it. And I'll tell you what it is. We want you to post the videos online so we can all watch..

Rush Limbaugh (3/1): Folks, do you realize that you can get, in Washington, DC...? If you ask the Department of Health there, they will send you free condoms! They will send you free condoms. You don't have to get Nancy Pelosi and ask for thousands of dollars in free birth control pills, and they'll even throw in the lube! So, if we're gonna sit here, and if we're gonna have a part in this, then we want something in return, Ms. Fluke: And that would be the videos of all this sex posted online so we can see what we are getting for our money....

Who paid for the sex and the contraception in the backseat of the car way back when? So it's embarrassing to go to the drugstore and not be able to pay and find out that the birth control pills are not covered by insurance. You see embarrassment etched all over the faces. Folks, for all the hilarity that's contained in what's going on here... Here's a woman exercising no self-control. The fact that she wants to have repeated, never-ending, as often as she wants it sex -- given. No question about that. Of course, it's normal. Why, who are you, Limbaugh? Where you been? We're to pay for it, and if there's any objection to it, then there's racism, bigotry, sexism, misogyny. We gotta killer disease out here, apparently, and that is women who can't afford contraception or don't want to pay for it, even though they can afford it....

You know, folks, millions of women enjoy sex in the back of a car. You have some women that can't afford a car. What are we to do? What is our solution to women who prefer sex in the backseat of a car but can't afford a car? I've run some numbers here. Did you notice...[one of the female Representatives] talked about the strength that Sandra Fluke had to go before Congress, which is amazing. She's having so much sex it's amazing she can still walk, but she made it up there. http://womensissues.about.com/od/reproductiverights/a/Rush-Limbaughs-C
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Adolescent girls and young women are frequently prescribed birth control pills for irregular or absent menstrual periods, menstrual cramps, acne, PMS, endometriosis, and for Polycystic Ovary Syndrome. Girls who are diagnosed with PCOS are often prescribed oral contraceptives to lower their hormone levels and regulate their menstrual periods.

What kinds of medical conditions can be helped with birth control pills?

Polycystic Ovary Syndrome (PCOS): is a hormonal imbalance which causes irregular menstrual periods, acne, and excess hair growth. Birth control pills work by lowering certain hormone levels to regulate menstrual periods. When hormone levels are decreased to normal, acne and hair growth often improve.

Endometriosis: Most girls with endometriosis have cramps or pelvic pain during their menstrual cycle. Birth control pills are often prescribed to treat endometriosis and work by temporarily preventing periods. When hormonal treatment is prescribed continuously, young women will rarely have periods, or not at all. Since periods can cause pain for young women with endometriosis, stopping periods will usually improve cramps and pelvic pain.

Lack of periods (“amenorrhea”) from low weight, stress, excessive exercise, or damage to the ovaries from radiation or chemotherapy: With any of these conditions, the hormone “estrogen” is not made in normal amounts by the body. Birth control pills may be prescribed to replace estrogen, which helps to regulate the menstrual cycle. For girls whose menstrual periods are irregular (too few - or not at all), birth control pills can help to regulate the menstrual cycle to every 28 days and provide the body with normal amounts of estrogen. Normal estrogen levels are important for healthy bones.

Menstrual Cramps: When over-the-counter medications don't help with severe cramps, birth control pills may be the solution because they prevent ovulation and lighten periods.

Premenstrual Syndrome (PMS): Symptoms of PMS such as mood swings, breast soreness, and bloating, along with acne can occur up to 2 weeks before a young women's period. Birth control pills may be prescribed to stop ovulation and keep hormone levels balanced. Symptoms may improve, particularly when oral contraceptive pills are prescribed continuously.

Heavy Menstrual Periods: Birth control pills can reduce the amount and length of menstrual bleeding.

Acne: For moderate to severe acne, which over-the-counter and prescription medications haven't cured, birth control pills may be prescribed. The hormones in the Pill can help stop acne from forming. Be patient though, since it takes several months for birth control pills to work.

Other Medical Benefits

Because there is less menstrual bleeding when taking birth control pills, you are less likely to get anemia (low number of red blood cells, which carry oxygen from the lungs to the tissues). Birth control pills lower your chance of getting endometrial (lining of the uterus) cancer, ovarian cancer, and ovarian cysts. http://www.youngwomenshealth.org/med-uses-ocp.html should answer THAT question, hopefully.

The woman Fluke was talking about ended up getting ovarian cysts and requiring surgery, because the organization wouldn't believe her needing birth control pills for a medical condition--apparently like Rush, the believe one only takes them to have "tremendous amounts" of sex. I had an ovarian cyst once many years ago...possibly some of our other female posters have had one. It was the most painful experience I've ever had...and "painful" doesn't do it, try "excrutiating". I was rushed to the ER and my doctor was able to come and see me. He told me it was an ovarian cyst, and unless I wanted surgery, I could wait and it would lessen. I was in what I would have to call agony, since I've never felt anything like that, and pissed at him that he had nothing to aleviate the pain (this was MANY years ago, perhaps now they do). I ended up going home and getting into our hot tub (which he had suggested) and Jim couldn't get me to come out a couple of hours later. As long as I was in there, the boyancy kept it from hurting as much, and I NEVER wanted to leave.

I was lucky, I only had that one. I can't conceive of what that young woman went through, and in the end she DID have to have surgery. Because some asshole religious types didn't believe her. That says a lot to me.

No, one's choice of college should have anything to do with the health care provided, and who knows if she even knew? Checking to see if a university's insurance pays for contraception (since EVERY OTHER COMPANY IS REQUIRED TO) certainly wouldn't be on the top of my list when choosing colleges, I probably wouldn't even look it up. To say her research was "lacking" because of it is truly asinine and the worst kind of reaching for rationalization.

These are NOT "religious organizations"--they are "religiously-AFFILIATED organizations". In other words, they're not churches, they're not run by nuns or priests; churches and actual religious organizations are exempted. THAT's where "conscience" has a right to be abided by, but not in hospitals and universities which, by the way, also GET GRANTS AND OTHER MONIES FROM GVERNMENT, remember?

I should have known our blindly-partisan members would defend this to the death, and to me it only exemplifies their need to BE blindly partisan. That anyone could read (which they probably didn't) what Limbaugh said, over and over on his show, and not come away totally disgusted blows my mind. I realize it shouldn't.

By the way, the insurance pays for viagra...how exactly do you reconcile THAT??? Yeah, it's used to treat medical conditions, too, so there's the rub: TOO. As in they both are use for reasons not having to do with sex, but to the puritan religious types (and those who blindly defend them), there's a difference. One is for...gasp...WOMEN!

Also, the statment that she was a last-minute choice by the Dems to include her is apparently incorrect:

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All of this would have likely been avoided if House Republicans had just let Fluke testify in the first place. Her absence left the contraception panel with no female speakers, sparking outrage from Democratic women in the House. House Oversight Chair Darrell Issa rejected Fluke's testimony on the grounds that she was "unqualified," arguing that the panel was about religion, not about women. http://articles.businessinsider.com/2012-03-02/politics/31115859_1_con
traception-democratic-women-rush-limbaugh was from the "Business Insider", I would assume a relatively nonpartisan source.

Also, it might be noted that Springhill College (Alabama), Catholic Healthcare West (AZ, NV, CA), Daughters of Charity (hospital chain), University of San Francisco (CA), Sacred Heart University (CT), the University of San Diego, Dominican University (IL), Loyola University of Chicago (IL), and 17 other organizations--ALL Catholic-affiliated organizations, mind you--offer contraception coverage to their employees (some even without copay). Catholic Healthcare West even offered it BEFORE state law required it. And that's just a "sampling"! ( http://www.nwlc.org/sites/default/files/pdfs/catholic_affiliated_insti
tutions_that_provide_contraceptive_coverage_chart.pdf) How does that square with the Georgetown uproar??

Lastly, Georgetown actually OFFERS contraception in its employee plans:

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“Plan Includes: …Contraceptive drugs and devices obtainable from a pharmacy.” (Aetna Plan, Effective Date 1/1/2012) . http://georgetownvoice.com/2012/02/23/gu-law-student-denied-testimony-
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Just apparently not for students who pay tuition. Did you get that? They offer plans that cover contraception to their EMPLOYEES, but not in their Student Health Plans:

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Contraceptives are not covered by the University’s student health policy with UnitedHealthcare Insurance unless they are being used to treat another condition. http://georgetownvoice.com/2012/02/23/gu-law-student-denied-testimony-
on-contraception/ the case Fluke brought up, the woman DID have a medical necessity, but:

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In this case, Fluke’s friend, despite confirmation of her illness from her doctor, was never able to get her medication. “Her claim was denied repeatedly on the assumption that she really wanted the birth control to prevent pregnancy,” Fluke said. “She’s gay, so clearly polycystic ovarian syndrome was a much more urgent concern than accidental pregnancy.” Same

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Georgetown responds:

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Georgetown denies culpability for incidents like this one. “The Student Health Center and the Office of Student Insurance have consistently worked together to minimize administrative issues for students seeking insurance coverage for oral contraceptives prescribed for medical conditions,” University spokeswoman Stacy Kerr said. “Students routinely are provided coverage when a medical condition is present that necessitates the use of such contraceptives.”Same

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LSRJ has been lobbying the Georgetown administration for several years to start covering birth control in its student health plans. The University already offers several health plans that cover contraception for University employees. Over the past year, LSRJ had meetings with the University at which they presented their view of how the policy was affecting students. Invoking the D.C. Human Rights Act, LSRJ demanded that the University change its policy. The issue reached the Office of the President last year, which upheld the policy. Same

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So this is nothing new at Georgetown.

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The Association of Jesuit Colleges and Universities and the Catholic Health Association both expressed support for the mandate. Georgetown has said it will comply with the new federal regulations, which take effect for most employers on Aug. 1 of this year. Same

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All of that is from the Georgetown Voice, so I assume they know what they're talking about.

So reconcile all of that, if you can. No, I said RECONCILE, not rationalize:

--Georgetown repeatedly denied contraception for medical reasons, tho' it's "policy" says it does, because despite a doctor's recommendation, it thought she wanted them just for sex.

--Many, many other religiously-affiliated organizations provide contraception, even some without copays.

--Georgetown PROVIDES COVERAGE for contraception to its employees, just not its students.

Does that REALLY make sense to anyone? And given the above, why was this ever made into an issue in the first place? Other religiously-affiliated places have no problem with covering contraception, so where does the difficulty with "religious conscience" come in??

There really is no issue at all. Students PAY for their insurance with their tuition; they have a right to the same coverage as employees, who are PAID and coverage is part of their salary. Religiously-AFFILIATED organizations are not churches, they are involved with people of all faiths and shouldn't discriminate. This whole thing is a made-up controversy which Limbaugh has fed, as have those on the right...and yeah, the Dems are rightfully laughing and getting contributions because of it. It's more of the same divisive games around "social issues" that the Repubs have been playing for a long time, and will always continue to play.

Yes, both the contraception and abortion issues are important to me--they'll NEVER AFFECT ME in my life, but I'm the child of a woman who was the victim of a back-street abortion when both were still illegal, and I saw how it affected her life. I was the only one of the three or four "siblings" who survived, and I was the last time she was ever allowed to get pregnant. I don't EVER want to see that happen in this country again.

Who was laughing that it was absurd to believe the right wanted to take away contraception, again?

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Oh, Rush gave *so* much away with this. Notice how he's willing to buy any amount of aspirin to get those "sluts" to keep their legs together. Yeah, it's hyperbole, but the underlying message shows what's really important to him - and, more importantly, to his avid listeners. It's sure as hell not money.

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