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Yep, Geezer, that totally explains why Fox is also covering these things.

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Originally posted by BlueHandedMenace:

I just dont see it as anything other than a making money bias. The longer it goes, the more they get to cover it, the more people watch, the more they make on ads.

I dont see this as bing a left-right thing at all.

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Ah, so you admit you are speaking without knowledge.

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Ah, so you admit you are speaking without knowledge.

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Only if you are admitting that you consider Fox part of the MSM.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Ah, so you admit you are speaking without knowledge.

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Only if you are admitting that you consider Fox part of the MSM.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Originally posted by BlueHandedMenace:
Geezer,

that comment makes no sense....Fox is the largest cable news outfit...how could they not be part of the mainstream media?

Or is mainstream suppossed to just be a codeword for Liberal?

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it's all a big librul conspiracy.

Spoon!

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it's all a big librul conspiracy.

Spoon!

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It's only a conspiracy when there's no attempt to hide the bias. The MSM is fully on board w/ the Obama re-election campaign. Only an idiot would try to deny that.

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The whole reason the right thinks many media outlets are behind Obama is because the right can't stand it when people point out the multitude of non-logical arguments from conservatives.

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OR, it could simply be that 95% of the MSM vote Democrat, contributes Democrat, and then tries to pretend that they don't slant their reporting and claim to be unbiased.

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An analysis of federal records shows that the amount of money journalists contributed so far this election cycle favors Democrats by a 15:1 ratio over Republicans, with $225,563 going to Democrats, only $16,298 to Republicans .

Two-hundred thirty-five journalists donated to Democrats, just 20 gave to Republicans — a margin greater than 10-to-1. An even greater disparity, 20-to-1, exists between the number of journalists who donated to Barack Obama and John McCain.

Searches for other newsroom categories (reporters, correspondents, news editors, anchors, newspaper editors and publishers) produces 311 donors to Democrats to 30 donors to Republicans, a ratio of just over 10-to-1. In terms of money, $279,266 went to Dems, $20,709 to Republicans, a 14-to-1 ratio.

http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/193407.php

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It's well documented, and we've had this discussion time and time again.

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It's well documented, and we've had this discussion time and time again.

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So....No, then?

Figures.

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It's well documented, and we've had this discussion time and time again.

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An analysis of federal records shows that the amount of money journalists contributed so far this election cycle favors Democrats by a 15:1 ratio over Republicans, with $225,563 going to Democrats, only $16,298 to Republicans .

Two-hundred thirty-five journalists donated to Democrats, just 20 gave to Republicans — a margin greater than 10-to-1. An even greater disparity, 20-to-1, exists between the number of journalists who donated to Barack Obama and John McCain.

Searches for other newsroom categories (reporters, correspondents, news editors, anchors, newspaper editors and publishers) produces 311 donors to Democrats to 30 donors to Republicans, a ratio of just over 10-to-1. In terms of money, $279,266 went to Dems, $20,709 to Republicans, a 14-to-1 ratio.

http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/193407.php

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I particularly like the link above this.....what is it, a blog post? from 2008? nice.....anyway, the link says "Aliens are Real"

And THAT is where Raptor gets his information.

Show of hands, who is surpised?

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Attack the source, but ignore the relevant details.

That's how you roll.

85-90-95%..doesn't matter. The germane point is that the media are, even with FOX NEWS in the equation, wholly and entirely slanted towards the Left.

Wallow in the minutia all you want, but you can not deny the facts. Unless you're an idiot or a liar, you can't.

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It's well documented, and we've had this discussion time and time again.

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Two-hundred thirty-five journalists donated to Democrats, just 20 gave to Republicans — a margin greater than 10-to-1.

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I particularly like the link above this.....what is it, a blog post? from 2008? nice.....anyway, the link says "Aliens are Real"

And THAT is where Raptor gets his information.

Show of hands, who is surpised?

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I particularly like the link above this.....what is it, a blog post? from 2008? nice.....anyway, the link says "Aliens are Real"

And THAT is where Raptor gets his information.

Show of hands, who is surpised?

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Attack the source, but ignore the relevant details.

That's how you roll.

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So, Rappy, answer this question for us all. Just a simple Yes or No answer will suffice.

Will you pledge here and now to never try to impugn a source cited by someone else, and to openly accept their facts as posted and accept their cites as completely valid?

Just a Yes or No answer, please. If you've got the courage to answer at all, of course.

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85-90-95%..doesn't matter. The germane point is that the media are, even with FOX NEWS in the equation, wholly and entirely slanted towards the Left.

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So you claim 95%, then claim it doesn't matter what the number is. Where have I seen this before? Taxes, anyone?

And you've never been able to show what you claim with regards to all media being "wholly and entirely slanted towards the Left." You do realize that when you say "wholly and entirely", you are claiming that every single media outlet is slanted to the left, don't you?

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Wallow in the minutia all you want, but you can not deny the facts. Unless you're an idiot or a liar, you can't.

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But you haven't cited any facts. You've yet to present any. In your own words, that means you're an idiot or a liar, because you're denying the facts yourself, by not bringing any to the table.







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No, of course not.

What I really want to know, is whther Raptor understands what a source is, as I have seen no evidence that he does.

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Originally posted by Niki2:I don't know where he gets his figures, but yes, IN 1968, 94% of media had a liberal bias ("In 1964, 94 percent of media professionals voted for Democrat Lyndon Johnson over Republican Barry Goldwater." from Conservapedia, by the way). Not so any more:

1997:

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In a survey conducted by the American Society of Newspaper Editors in 1997, 61% of reporters stated that they were members of or shared the beliefs of the Democratic Party. Only 15% say their beliefs were best represented by the Republican Party. This leaves 24% undecided or Independent. http://phantasytour.com/bands/1/topics/2991420/posts Research Center surveys showing that 34 percent of media workers are self-identified liberals, up from 22 percent nine years ago. http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=20040603&
slug=thulets03 findings from The Hill show that 68 percent of media reports in a politically biased manner with 46 percent saying the media favors Democrats and 22 percent believing media favors Republicans. http://www.freedomszone.com/aggregator.php?id=73761]

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Thing is, NONE of those show Rappy's claimed "95%" number, not even the 1964 numbers, which come from a site with a known right-wing bias.

Now, coming on the heels of Rappy crying about Obama "lying" when he says things like "passed with a strong majority" in regards to Obamacare, and when Rappy wants to quibble over the words of others to such a nit-picking degree, then it seems only fair to call a lie a lie and call him out on his own frequent and repeated lies.

NOWHERE has he presented any evidence of a 95% liberal bias in the media, and NOWHERE has he provided ANY evidence to support his claim that the media is "entirely and wholly" slanted to the left.

Thus, such spurious claims must be viewed as lies, because Rappy keeps repeating them even when shown that they are patently false.






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I particularly like the link above this.....what is it, a blog post? from 2008? nice.....anyway, the link says "Aliens are Real"

And THAT is where Raptor gets his information.

Show of hands, who is surpised?

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Attack the source, but ignore the relevant details.

That's how you roll.

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Is anyone really surprised?




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