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Superintendent Jerry Payne confirmed a school resource officer did spray and said he did it to force students inside classrooms. Payne said the students took too long to get to class, so the officer pointed the spray toward the ground, not at students.

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Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA:
Throw in the rash of taserings, beatings and ludicrous arrests, and then contrast it with little if any improvement in safety, and I think this is a bad idea and needs to go.

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Originally posted by BLUEHANDEDMENACE:
I am very impressed w this effort on your part Frem. This feels to me like something that could actually make a difference to some kids. Not a huge percentage, mind, but every one helped is worthwhile.

I would expect that the idea of chain of command outside of the school/schoolboard authority is gonna be a tough sell. You probably know better than I do how unlikely it is that these people are going to give up a sliver of their power.

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Originally posted by Wishimay:

Kid's circulatory and neurological systems aren't as equipped to handle that shit.

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And an unexpected gauntlet was thrown - "You think YOU can do any better?!"

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I've already put some thought into this, and what I would prefer to do is find an 18-19 year old from the same cultural and economic background as the students (....) That's gonna require more upfront training and investment than the norm, especially since imma call in some favors from professional arbitrators in regards to dispute resolution training

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We have an on-campus Cop at my school, and it has gone very well.

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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:

Funny. We had a cop at my highschool, none of us ever saw the guy, he did precisely NOTHING... Until one day our student body quislings and the administration and this cop got together and decided, "hey, let's tell the kids they don't have to go to one of those boring school spirit and student officer election assemblies and that they can go home early, but then we close up all the parking lot entrances and have the cop arrest any students who try to leave the school grounds."

My friends and I were hungry and decided we wanted to go to a bagel shop about a block away because we didn't feel like having the school waste our time, and had to dodge the cop on foot (we were lucky, we saw his cop car before he saw us). When we figured out what was going on, we were pissed off enough that we called the local fire department about the possible fire and evacuation hazard, and they came over and ordered the school to open it up. But not before we saw some of the kids hook up a big pick-up to one of the gates and try to break the thing, and some other kids with four wheel drive try to escape through the brush.

And this wasn't exactly a bunch of delinquents, either, school was in a good area with a high grade point average. There is just only so much bullshit a person can put up with.

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I must admit, I find this hard to believe.

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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
Too bad for them, knowing you, you already have your contingency plans in place, ready to go. They honestly thought you wouldn't have gone over their heads or talked to the kids? They're seriously that bad at underestimating EVERYONE?

Only got one response to that: LOL.

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