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Originally posted by Geezer:

But it's nice to see you're still keeping an open mind about Zimmerman's guilt or innocence, Niki.

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Originally posted by HKCavalier:
So lying to your atourney and to the court is cool as long as it's about money? You guys are so funny.

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Originally posted by Niki2:
But that's okay, doesn't bother me at all that you guys hate me and are as quick to mischaracterize me as you claim I am to jump on things, I'm used to it.

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Originally posted by HKCavalier:
But see, that's the thing, Niki. The Elephant in the room. If the races were reversed, a.) the black Zimmerman would have been jailed immediately and b.) we'd never have heard about it. I would challenge anyone to find, in the entire history of this country, an example of a black man shooting and killing an unarmed man, woman or child of any race who was not then immediately charged with murder.

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Taco Bell Shooting Victim was Holding Leash, Not Weapon

Victim's sister calling for shooter's arrest

LAVEEN - Police are saying more about a shooting at a Taco Bell Tuesday night in which one man died.

They're also identifying the victim as 29-year-old Daniel Adkins.

About 7:30 p.m., a 22-year-old man and his girlfriend ordered food at the Taco Bell drive-thru and were told to pull up while their order was prepared.

At the same time, Adkins stepped around a corner into the path of the vehicle and angry words were exchanged between he and the driver.

They got into an altercation and Adkins was shot once by the driver. He died at the scene.

The driver, a 22-year-old black male, called police but has not been arrested.

At first, the couple claimed that Adkins had a metal pipe that he swung at them -- but it turns out he was holding a dog leash with his yellow lab on the other end.

Family members want that driver arrested, but he's claiming self-defense.

"He needs to be behind bars. I'll never see my brother again," says sister Marina Reyes. "If he felt that my brother was threatening him, he could have easily just rolled up the window and called the cops."

A metal pipe or bat was never located. An independent witness did say Adkins swung his fists in the driver's direction.

“He swung his fist towards the driver window, and at some point the driver shot him,” says Phoenix Police Sgt. Tommy Thompson. “Just because we don’t book a person immediately does not mean we don’t charge a person at a later date.”

The dog, Lady, stayed by Adkins' side until the Humane Society came. Adkins lived with his mom and dad. He's 29, but his family says he's mentally disabled and has the mental capacity of a 12-year-old. He didn't drive, and walked wherever he went.

"This person is still on the loose and I don't agree with that. So he's saying self defense, then where's the weapon? Where's the pipe? They didn't find anything on my brother," says Reyes. "He was just too aggressive, you don't need to go that far."

The shooter's name has not been released. The investigation is still ongoing.

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Originally posted by Niki2:
That's a horrible, horrific story, how awful! I would say three things about it:

This is the only thing we've read, and I would like more facts before making up my mind about the shooter's innocence or guilt..

The police said "Just because we don’t book a person immediately does not mean we don’t charge a person at a later date". I don't know if that will happen or not, but almost a month after it happened, Zimmerman still wasn't arrested and there was no mention by police that they intended ANY further investigation or actions.

Lastly, how many of these instances can you come up with? If we spent even a few minutes, I'm sure we could come up with dozens (or more) of examples of whites getting off killing blacks and not being immediately arrested; I think it would take you a long time--if ever--to find many of the opposite.

As to whatzit, I don't know what rocker he's fallen off NOW. I'm assuming it's a snark--tho' a rather poor one--because obviously I have never expressed any such ideas. That's about as much as it's worth, actually maybe a bit more.

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Originally posted by Niki2:
Lastly, how many of these instances can you come up with?

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Originally posted by HKCavalier:
The state this happened in have a "sit your ground law" or a "stand your drive through law" to protect the killer?

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So where's Leonidas and when's he gonna kick me down his well?

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Originally posted by Niki2:
As to whatzit, I don't know what rocker he's fallen off NOW. I'm assuming it's a snark--tho' a rather poor one--because obviously I have never expressed any such ideas.

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Originally posted by Oonjerah:
Quote Geezer: "Well, back in the '"Racism is dead in America." Bullshit' thread, you did cite an article ..."
The "Racism is dead in America." Bullshit thread is back on page 5, its latest post, Mar 28.
Some of us are into updates and revisions now, reassessing the topic. To be Fair, I'd hope
the Zimmerman fans would acknowledge that.

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...CNN is withholding the shooter's name because he has not been charged with a crime...

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Originally posted by RionaEire:
I'm still trying to wrap my mind around the idea of someone having a website to raise legal funds, both sides of a dispute could do this and whoever raises more money gets the better lawyer? The whole concept is quite new to me and so I don't know what to think. ... I've never seen its like before. But I guess it all comes down to money often times anyway, so maybe this isn't a bad thing? Because anyone can earn money for their defense?

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