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RIP Carroll Shelby...

POSTED BY: KWICKO
UPDATED: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 13:43
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Friday, May 11, 2012 11:38 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)




http://www.insideline.com/ford/carroll-shelby-larger-than-life.html





You had one hell of a ride, amigo. So long, and thanks for all the cool cars!

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Friday, May 11, 2012 12:06 PM

WHOZIT


NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!! THIS SUCKS!!!

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Friday, May 11, 2012 12:09 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Indeed. Won't be another like him, likely ever.


I wasn't a fan of all his projects, but a few of them were just magical.

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Friday, May 11, 2012 2:06 PM

PIZMOBEACH

... fully loaded, safety off...


I would say the Shelby Cobra was the peak of US automotive design. If I'm wrong, it ain't by much.
And even though these aren't Shelby's cars, still something of a salute, even if just in the sound... crank up your computer speakers!



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Friday, May 11, 2012 3:54 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Thing is, the Cobra wasn't even American to start with. That was the genius of Shelby - he took outdated cars from a near-failing British automaker - the AC "Ace" - yanked the little four-banger engine out, wedged in a 289 cubic inch small-block V8, and produced gold in what became known first as the AC Cobra.



Later, he figured out how to wedge in a big-block V8, the monster 427 cubic inch "side oiler", and the real legend was born. Fenders were flared and rolled to fit enormous tires under them, a roll cage was stuffed in, and it was off to the races.



His piece de resistance was the Cobra Daytona Coupe - it was what Shelby and his crew saw as the answer to aerodynamic drag at high speeds on the European and American endurance tracks like LeMans and Daytona. The car was a stunner, in both looks and performance, and Ferrari's response was to have the rules for races changed, or to pull out of the races outright. They simply would not compete against the Cobra Daytona, because while the 427 Cobra was mighty, the Daytona piled another 20-plus miles per hour onto its top end, all due to the improved aero efficiency.

http://www.ritzsite.nl/AC_Cobra/Clones/Superformance_Shelby_Cobra_Dayt
ona_coupe_2004.JPG


... and then he set to work on Ford's new Mustang, to see what kind of car he could turn something based on the lowly Falcon economy car into...



These were the days when you could still drive your GT car to the race track, race it, then collect your winnings and drive it home. Hertz Rent-a-Car seems to have forgotten that when they commissioned a run of the GT350s for their rental fleet. The cars were painted in the Hertz livery - black with gold stripes - and were officially called GT350H models, "H" for Hertz.



More than one of them was returned on Monday with fresh holes where a roll bar had been bolted in for the weekend!

I've autocrossed against a few GT350s in my day, including a GT350R, and I've run against a 427 Cobra. And while I beat their times on a short, twisty autocross course, it wasn't by that much, and I was running a car that was 25 years newer! It's a testament to how good they were in their day.



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Friday, May 11, 2012 5:51 PM

FREMDFIRMA



He will be sorely missed - but you forgot his final project, Mikey!
Look it up.

-F

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Friday, May 11, 2012 6:11 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Oh, he kept his fingers in a lot of pies - the infamous Dodge Omni GLH and GLH-S (What Shelby called "Goes Like Hell" and "Goes Like Hell Somemore!"; the Viper; then back to Ford for some projects, and his own "continuation" series Cobras, and then onto the Series One, which I always found quite disappointing in styling, engineering, and performance.

And then there were those horribly awful, ugly-ass "Eleanor" cars that were supposed to be copies of the equally-ugly car in the shitty remake of "Gone In 60 Seconds", but that company collapsed in bankruptcy and disgrace, thankfully, but not before defrauding a lot of people out of their hard-earned money.



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

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Friday, May 11, 2012 6:38 PM

CAVETROLL


Ah, damn. With Shelby and Yunick gone automotive innovation may have just hit a wall.

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Saturday, May 12, 2012 2:38 AM

WHOZIT


The things he did with the little 289 was magic, he turned the Mustang from a "pony" car into a "muscle" car, which pissed a few people off.

The Shelby Cobra with the 428 CJ not only was fast as hell, it was also pretty to look at

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Tuesday, May 22, 2012 8:28 AM

FREMDFIRMA


Quote:

Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA:
He will be sorely missed - but you forgot his final project, Mikey!


2013 Ford Shelby GT500, a gentler stampeding Mustang: Motoramic Drives
http://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motoramic/2013-ford-shelby-gt500-gentler-
stampeding-mustang-motoramic-044439333.html

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With my car fitted with the optional "Track Pack" that increases cooling even further -- and bumps the sticker price to $65,120 from the $54,200 base number -- I took to the Road Atlanta racetrack. I braced for a punishing ride that would make me earn my lap time, and instead found a companion as calm and eager to reward as a day-care teacher. There was no understeer to speak of, and the rear was planted on power down. The gear ratios from the beefed-up Tremec six-speed manual were so long that the car tricks you into thinking you're going slower than you actual velocity. The car will do 60 mph in just 1st gear, and I was still in 3rd at 140 mph. It felt, dare I say it, tame.

And I didn't want it to.

2013 Ford Shelby GT500I wanted to manhandle the car, holding my breath every turn, praying I would emerge from the other side without bending metal or myself. I worried that in their drive to wrangle this herd of wild horses, the Ford engineers had actually done their jobs too well.

The same was true when I hit the country roads. The 242 additional horsepower in the GT500 over the upgraded Mustang GT barely made its presence known -- in part because the GT500 only makes its maximum when the car "over revs" from its normal redline of 6,250 rpm to 7,000 rpm in eight-second bursts, and the tall gear ratios prevent the chiropractic snap you'd expect when nailing the gas pedal. As a cruiser, it projects all the coolness a Shelby should, but I wasn't there to prance about. I brought spare boxer shorts and I expected to need them.


It's a damn nice car, I give it - but a little too "civilized" for me, hell most cars are these days.

I miss the days of sideways cornering, howling tires, one white knuckled hand firm on the wheel and the other ready to tap the e-brake as you snapshot the wheel out of the corner to straighten her out and plant the pedal firmly to the metal in a spray of gravel, rubber bits and profanity...

-Frem

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Tuesday, May 22, 2012 1:43 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Hadn't heard about that one, Frem.

And yeah, it sounds positively tame. Funny thing - new cars are making so much more horsepower, but electronic nannies like traction control and vehicle stability programs are keeping anyone from enjoying the power at all.





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