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Teacher suspended after telling students not to criticize the president
Wednesday, May 23, 2012 5:14 AM
STORYMARK
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: Just one, actually. One too many, and it's a big one. " We're all just folk. " - Mal " AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall "The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein
Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: Just one, actually.
Wednesday, May 23, 2012 7:21 AM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: There is no overall discussion, no learning of the many, just a loudmouth pushing the envelope with an agenda. The next generation of Breitbarts.
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: There is no overall discussion, no learning of the many, just a loudmouth pushing the envelope with an agenda.
Wednesday, May 23, 2012 8:02 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: There is no overall discussion, no learning of the many, just a loudmouth pushing the envelope with an agenda. The next generation of Breitbarts. 1kiki was clearly talking about the " teacher ", where as I believe you were talking about the students.
Quote:It's obvious one student is able to disrupt and dominate her entire class. It's obvious this was a set-up by the student who recorded and posted his own antics. There is no overall discussion, no learning of the many, just a loudmouth pushing the envelope with an agenda.
Wednesday, May 23, 2012 8:19 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: Thanks for another demonstration of your poor reading skills. Keep 'em coming. I can always go for more comedy.
Wednesday, May 23, 2012 8:27 AM
Wednesday, May 23, 2012 8:36 AM
MAL4PREZ
Wednesday, May 23, 2012 8:42 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: You've clearly got nothing else going for you.
Wednesday, May 23, 2012 8:50 AM
Quote:Originally posted by mal4prez: Niki et al: You do realize that since you made a plan to ignore Rappy, he's gone into full PAY ATTENTION TO ME mode, starting threads with obvious hooks. Like this one. He lies because that forces you to reply and point out the lies. And he'll keep repeating the lies to make you keep replying. The focus stays on him.
Wednesday, May 23, 2012 8:54 AM
Wednesday, May 23, 2012 9:00 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: You've clearly got nothing else going for you. Yeah, I don't read each and every post in each and every thread, whether I started it or not. I actually DO have more going for me than to waste time sifting through hundrerds of separate comments. Which is why I took the full quote from YOUR post, and commented on just that. Because, just from quoting YOUR post, it was easy to see how one could confuse the issue, on whether it was the teacher ( who had lost control of her class ) or the students, which were the subject here. And that's the point I was making, that any teacher who was so pathetic and worthless, to engage in such asinine and faulty based arguments, deserves to get over run by his/ her students, and then set up, shown for their utter incompetence, and then suspended. Too much for you to grasp, of course, but one can hope.
Wednesday, May 23, 2012 9:07 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: But it's just so damned much fun to poke the poor stupid monkey.
Wednesday, May 23, 2012 12:26 PM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:You do realize that since you made a plan to ignore Rappy, he's gone into full PAY ATTENTION TO ME mode, starting threads with obvious hooks. Like this one. He lies because that forces you to reply and point out the lies. And he'll keep repeating the lies to make you keep replying. The focus stays on him.
Quote:He makes it fun for you so he can control you. So who's the monkey?
Quote:Do you have any recollection of what it's like here when it's not the 24-hour-feed-the-Rappy-dysfunction show? It can be quite an interesting and informative place. As it is? Not so much.
Wednesday, May 23, 2012 12:39 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: You don't read every post - but complain when others skip posts.
Quote: Your point was "really" about the teacher losing control of the class, even though you didn't say anything to that effect, and I didn't include that in my quote from kiki.... and you claim to have not read kiki's post.... Anyone who reads the exchange can tell your workin overtime to rationalize that one. Beautiful.
Wednesday, May 23, 2012 5:30 PM
RIONAEIRE
Beir bua agus beannacht
Wednesday, May 23, 2012 6:20 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Wednesday, May 23, 2012 6:29 PM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Quote:On July 4, 2004, Nicole and Jeffery Rank attended President Bush's speech at the West Virginia State Capitol. They were handcuffed, arrested and charged with trespassing for wearing anti-Bush T-shirts. They sued the federal government. Yesterday they settled their suit for $80,000. The front of their homemade T-shirts had a picture of Bush and the international "no" symbol over his face. The back of Nicole's shirt read "Love America, Hate Bush." The back of Jeffery Rank's T-shirt read "Regime Change Starts at Home." "This settlement is a real victory not only for our clients but for the First Amendment," said Andrew Schneider, executive director of the ACLU of West Virginia. "As a result of the Ranks' courageous stand, public officials will think twice before they eject peaceful protesters from public events for exercising their right to dissent."
Friday, May 25, 2012 5:46 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: About that whole "never happened" thing in regards to people being arrested for criticizing Dubya... It did happen. http://boingboing.net/2007/08/17/feds-pay-80000-to-co.html These people were paid $80,000 by the feds after being wrongly arrested for wearing anti-Bush t-shirts at one of his appearances.0
Saturday, May 26, 2012 2:40 AM
Saturday, May 26, 2012 3:38 AM
Quote:They were on the grounds of the capitol in Charleston, West Virginia, where Bush was giving a speech. Amidst others who were wearing pro-Bush shirts, the Ranks were wearing shirts with Bush’s name having a line through it. On the back of one of their shirts was: “Love America, Hate Bush.” They were singled out by White House event staff and local law enforcement, who told them they would have to leave. When they didn’t, they were arrested for trespassing. The city of Charleston, in a matter of days, realized its error and apologized to the Ranks.
Quote:The document also recommends drowning out protesters or blocking their signs by using what it calls “rally squads.” It states: “These squads should be instructed always to look for demonstrators. The rally squad’s task is to use their signs and banners as shields between the demonstrators and the main press platform. If the demonstrators are yelling, rally squads can begin and lead supportive chants to drown out the protestors (USA!, USA!, USA!). As a last resort, security should remove the demonstrators from the event site.” The rest at http://www.aclu.org/free-speech/white-house-policy-illegally-silences-americans-critical-bush-aclu-charges. There goes free speech! Wasn't just them, either, and had nothing to do with "tresspassing"--they had tickets to the event:Quote:The Ranks had tickets to attend the July 4, 2004 event, but drew attention when they removed their outer garments to display t-shirts bearing the international "no" symbol (a circle with a diagonal line across it) superimposed over the word "Bush." Although other people in the audience were allowed to wear pro-Bush paraphernalia, White House event staff demanded that the Ranks remove or cover their t-shirts. When the Ranks refused, the White House staffers instructed local police to arrest the couple, causing them to be removed from the Capitol grounds in handcuffs, jailed and charged with trespassing. Ms. Rank was also temporarily suspended from her work with the Federal Emergency Management Agency. City officials later apologized for their part in the arrest when they realized they'd been used as political operatives by the White House. Similarly, Weise and Young had tickets to attend the March 21, 2005 Denver town hall on Social Security, but they were singled out after a staffer was informed that Weise had a bumper sticker on her car that read, "No More Blood for Oil." Weise was stopped upon entering the event and warned that she had been "ID'd," but was allowed to enter. However, shortly after reaching their seats, Weise and Young were forcibly removed from the event by a staffer who later admitted that he was acting under orders from White House officials.Removed, despite having paid for tickets, because they had a bumper sticker which didn't even MENTION Bush! There's also:Quote: other occasions throughout the country in which individuals were excluded from presidential events because of their political views. For example, in LaCrosse, Wisconsin, ticket holders in line to hear the president speak had to unbutton their shirts before they could get inside. One individual was wearing a t-shirt critical of the president, and was ejected by security officials. In Fargo, North Dakota, several dozen individuals were placed on a "do not admit list" of those forbidden to attend a presidential event; most of the individuals on the list belonged to a liberal organization, and some had written letters to the editor opposing the president's policies. And in Tucson, Arizona, a student was barred from a presidential forum on Social Security because he was wearing a Young Democrats t-shirt.So, only one couple was arrested--and that for not even "dissing" Bush verbally. The teacher wasn't that far off the mark after all, was she?
Quote:The Ranks had tickets to attend the July 4, 2004 event, but drew attention when they removed their outer garments to display t-shirts bearing the international "no" symbol (a circle with a diagonal line across it) superimposed over the word "Bush." Although other people in the audience were allowed to wear pro-Bush paraphernalia, White House event staff demanded that the Ranks remove or cover their t-shirts. When the Ranks refused, the White House staffers instructed local police to arrest the couple, causing them to be removed from the Capitol grounds in handcuffs, jailed and charged with trespassing. Ms. Rank was also temporarily suspended from her work with the Federal Emergency Management Agency. City officials later apologized for their part in the arrest when they realized they'd been used as political operatives by the White House. Similarly, Weise and Young had tickets to attend the March 21, 2005 Denver town hall on Social Security, but they were singled out after a staffer was informed that Weise had a bumper sticker on her car that read, "No More Blood for Oil." Weise was stopped upon entering the event and warned that she had been "ID'd," but was allowed to enter. However, shortly after reaching their seats, Weise and Young were forcibly removed from the event by a staffer who later admitted that he was acting under orders from White House officials.
Quote: other occasions throughout the country in which individuals were excluded from presidential events because of their political views. For example, in LaCrosse, Wisconsin, ticket holders in line to hear the president speak had to unbutton their shirts before they could get inside. One individual was wearing a t-shirt critical of the president, and was ejected by security officials. In Fargo, North Dakota, several dozen individuals were placed on a "do not admit list" of those forbidden to attend a presidential event; most of the individuals on the list belonged to a liberal organization, and some had written letters to the editor opposing the president's policies. And in Tucson, Arizona, a student was barred from a presidential forum on Social Security because he was wearing a Young Democrats t-shirt.
Saturday, May 26, 2012 4:45 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Were they arrested for trespassing, or wearing anti-Bush T shirts ? It was trespassing, so no, they weren't arrested for merely wearing the T-shirts. Had they been walking down a street, or in a mall, I doubt very much they'd have been 'cuffed and hauled away. This is ridiculous.
Saturday, May 26, 2012 4:48 AM
Saturday, May 26, 2012 4:49 AM
Saturday, May 26, 2012 5:27 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: That teacher could have never offered up a single example of her claims, given the chance. Minor details, like which people, and what did they say, she left out. And note how she twice said arrested, and then later added 'reprimanded'. She has no clue of what she speaks, and it shows.
Saturday, May 26, 2012 7:53 AM
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