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10 Dead, 41 Hurt in Violent Chicago Weekend


One man was shot in the head and another in the back Monday night, the latest incidents in a violent holiday weekend in Chicago.
Police said a group was standing in the 1700 block of East 68th Street around 10 p.m. in the city's South Shore neighborhood when someone fired shots. One man was shot in the head and died, and another was struck in the back and transported to a local hospital.
In total, 10 people died over the weekend and 41 were hurt in shootings since Friday night across Chicago.
On Tuesday, Mayor Rahm Emanuel and Police Supt. Garry McCarthy outlined new strategies to reduce crime.
“Reducing gang-related violence is key to driving down overall crime in Chicago,” Emanuel said


http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward-room/Violent-Chicago-Weekend-1553
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Chicago Crime: Shootings Slightly Up, Murders Way Up. What Gives?

Posted May 29, 2012 at 06:21 PM By Whet Moser

Between 2000 and 2007, Newark saw a near-doubling in the number of murders, going against well-known national trends. But it didn't see a comparable increase in the number of shootings

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
I could as easily title the thread "The fruits of private gun ownership" and be as accurate as your title, since one has about as much to do with the actual news story as the other.

Oh, wait - my title is MORE accurate, because guns were actually involved in most of these killings, it looks like.

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
I could as easily title the thread "The fruits of private gun ownership" and be as accurate as your title, since one has about as much to do with the actual news story as the other.

Oh, wait - my title is MORE accurate, because guns were actually involved in most of these killings, it looks like.

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But then again, so were members of the community - unless those guns jumped up and shot folks all by themselves.

So who has the power to decide to shoot or not - the guns, or the people?

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They were the fruits of being community organized. As the title states.

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They were the fruits of being community organized. As the title states.

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Do you really believe that, that the one caused the other? I thought at first you were just scoffing light-heartedly...

It's not personal. It's just war.

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They were the fruits of being community organized. As the title states.

But before a gun can do anything, it's the people who must be responsible.

Glad you see the error of your ways, and now are no longer blaming the guns ( it's just an object, it doesn't mean what you think ) for the actions of the individuals.

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They were the fruits of being community organized. As the title states.

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Do you really believe that, that the one caused the other? I thought at first you were just scoffing light-heartedly...

It's not personal. It's just war.

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Originally posted by kpo: I thought at first you were just scoffing light-heartedly...

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The people with guns, of course. Were they community organizers? Or does that whole concept of personal responsibility get tossed out the window when one is trying to blame community organizing for the actions of people with guns?

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I could as easily title the thread "The fruits of private gun ownership" and be as accurate as your title, since one has about as much to do with the actual news story as the other.

Oh, wait - my title is MORE accurate, because guns were actually involved in most of these killings, it looks like.

'Course, Chicago is also cited as one of the birthplaces of the whole "tea party" movement, so I could title the thread "The fruits of the tea party" as well...



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero


"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy

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And I thought this was going some feel good story about a community growing fresh produce on urban waste land....

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I only wish that every dickhead with a gun or a cock thought that much before they used it.

We'd have hundreds less deaths and thousands less births monthly in that perfect world.

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Jack, you (and many others) have completely missed the point of my post. I'm illustrating the absurdity of blaming crime on community organizing. It's even more absurd than blaming it on guns. Did the community organizers jump up and kill all these people? Geezer says if the guns didn't do that, I can't blame the guns. So did community organizers commit every one of these murders? If not, you can't link them.


You say if guns were all outlawed then there would still be murders and gun crimes. I say that whether you have community organizing or not, there will still be crime. You can only hope to LESSEN the number of murders and the like through community organization and awareness. The righties here like to point out any crime as a complete failure of progressive policies, so I take that approach and turn it around on them. They say guns don't kill people, so all I have to do to prove them completely wrong is show one single case where someone accidentally shot and killed someone, because the gun most certainly DID kill somebody in that case; they undoubtedly would not be dead if there had not been a gun present.

If you think I'm advocating doing away with all gun ownership, you clearly haven't been paying attention for all the years you've been here. I'm advocating education and organization. Gun clubs and militias are "community organizing", only right-wingers don't want to admit that. Our military is a brand of socialism - it takes from all of us and redistributes the wealth, both to soldiers and to the military-industrial complex via Pentagon contracts - but right-wingers don't want to admit that, either. Yes, your army-trained brother is a socialist. Please be sure to tell him "You're welcome" from me for all the food, housing, training, etc. that he got by sucking tax dollars out of my pocket.



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero


"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy

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