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FauxNews strikes again...and yet again
Saturday, June 23, 2012 8:09 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Saturday, June 23, 2012 8:31 AM
KPO
Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.
Saturday, June 23, 2012 8:43 AM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Quote:Originally posted by kpo: This Hannity and his team seems like the lowest of the low. It's not personal. It's just war.
Saturday, June 23, 2012 10:53 AM
Quote:compared to the lies from MSNBC
Saturday, June 23, 2012 12:13 PM
Monday, June 25, 2012 6:26 AM
CAVETROLL
Monday, June 25, 2012 6:55 AM
BYTEMITE
Monday, June 25, 2012 7:23 AM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Quote:Originally posted by Troll: Here you go. They prefer to lie by manipulating audio and video. Much worse, because they are trying to put words in their victim's mouths.
Monday, June 25, 2012 10:45 AM
Quote:the Miami Herald notes that MSNBC used ellipses in their web coverage of a bogus story run by NBC. Damning evidence that they knew the source was bogus, but they still ran it.
Monday, June 25, 2012 11:35 AM
Quote:I'm not sure I agree with the allegation the article is making - if I understand it correctly - MSNBC knew the quote had been edited dishonestly but still put it on their website? But the original NBC edited quote had ellipses (watch the tape)... So it seems to me MSNBC could have just copied it, and are not necessarily complicit in the dishonesty.
Monday, June 25, 2012 12:48 PM
Tuesday, June 26, 2012 11:18 AM
Quote: I think the point MSNBC was making about Romney (that he is out of touch, because the WaWa machine was a new experience to him) was a weak one; but I don't think the edit enhanced that point - it just sped it up.
Quote: Has Fox News been caught doctoring stories once again? According to a new video circulating online as of yesterday, it appears so. While trying to offer “Fair and Balanced” reporting on the recent riots in Moscow in which some thousands of people have taken to the streets to protest Vladimir Putin’s return to power, the folks at Fox News apparently decided to show viewers footage of the protests. Except the violent, fiery images shown during their broadcast on December 7 were not of Moscow at all but were actually re-purposed video shots from protests in Greece earlier this year. http://flipthemedia.com/2011/12/fox-news-caught-using-fake-riot-footage-in-russia/
Quote: The ongoing labor protests in Wisconsin have been relatively peaceful, with union workers and supporters rallying non-violently in opposition to Governor Scott Walker's controversial proposal to end collective bargaining rights for public unions. Fox News Channel viewers, however, might get a different impression, thanks in part to footage that was not shot anywhere near Wisconsin. Monday night's episode of "The O'Reilly Factor" included video from a solidarity protest in Sacramento in a segment on the protests in Wisconsin. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/02/wisconsin-protests-fox-news-sacramento_n_830314.html
Quote: Fox News got themselves in hot water Tuesday when they played the boos from the 2010 conference on Ron Paul’s Conservative Political Action Conference’s presidential straw poll win and said it was from the 2011 conference. The Texas congressman’s supporters say that the station intentionally mixed up the footage to place Paul in a negative lighter against Mitt Romney, who placed second in the poll. This is not the first time Fox has made a controversial error with their footage. They used footage from a 2008 event to show that Palin was “drawing huge crowds” when she went on her book tour. In 2009, Sean Hannity had Rep. Michele Bachmann describing an anti-health care reform rally while footage from a larger event months prior by Glenn Beck aired. http://libertarianviewpoint.com/blog/?p=4523
Quote: In the last two weeks, we've pointed out that Fox News' graphics department stunningly failed to accurately portray the fact that the unemployment rate dropped from 9 percent to 8.6 percent in November. But Fox's graphics woes apparently aren't limited to misrepresenting the unemployment rate. Tonight, the network's premiere "straight news" political program, Special Report with Bret Baier, did a segment on possible paths to victory for President Obama's re-election campaign. And in one graphic, Fox mislabeled Utah as Nevada: Soon afterward, Fox mislabeled Vermont as New Hampshire: In July 2009, Fox aired this confused map of the Middle East: And in March, a Fox map stated that Japan had a nuclear power plant in "Shibuyaeggman," an apparent reference to a Tokyo dance club. http://cloudfront.mediamatters.org/static/images/item/fnc-20110314-Shibuyaeggman.JPG It seems that Fox's 2009 pledge of "zero tolerance for on-screen errors" has not worked very well. http://mediamatters.org/blog/201112130027
Quote: Check out the Fox News chart above. Looks pretty clean and sweet, no? The numbers are accurate, it’s got a source line, plenty of detail, etc. So what could possibly be wrong with it? As Media Matters for America notes,. pull back from the screen and focus only on the trend line, not on the numbers. See something off? As Media Matters’ Zachary Pleat writes, “the 8.6 percent unemployment rate in November looks higher than March’s 8.8 percent rate, and about the same as the 9 percent unemployment rate in October.” Even though things are improving just slightly, the chart’s message is that they’re not. Everything we know about computer-generated graphics tells us that a double-jointed chart like this doesn’t just self-generate. That is, to get a trend line to defy the numbers attached to it has to require effort and enterprise. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/post/fox-newss-unemployment-chart-better-graphics/2011/12/12/gIQAUVgNqO_blog.html
Quote:Mitt Romney has turned black, at least according to a graphic that appeared on a Fox News program today. Have a look — this is strange even by the standards of this Republican race. http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201112140011] orQuote:Mass Effect sex scandal 'embarrassed' Fox News Ray Muzyka looks back and laughs at dodgy reporting http://www.computerandvideogames.com/240891/mass-effect-sex-scandal-embarrassed-fox-news-bioware/ They got in a lot of trouble for that one and it DID get some coverage, forcing their commentator (but not FauxNews itself) to apologize:Quote: Faced with a barrage of negative one-star reviews for her book by people who never read it, Cooper Lawrence apologized for hyperbolic comments about a game she never played. The author and commentator had blasted Mass Effect on Fox News recently for its sexual content but conceded later that she never even played the game. "I recognize that I misspoke," she said. "I really regret saying that, and now that I've seen the game and seen the sex scenes it's kind of a joke. ... Before the show I had asked somebody about what they had heard, and they had said it's like pornography. But it's not like pornography. I've seen episodes of Lost that are more sexually explicit." While "asking someone what they heard" about a product apparently passed the low ethics hurdle at Fox News, it did not sit well with gamers, who expressed their outrage by blasting Amazon.com's web page featuring her book with one-star reviews, all of which have since been deleted. Electronic Arts and BioWare also protested Lawrence's comments in the form of public statements. Fox News itself issued no apologies. http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/81009-Fox-News-Commentator-Apologizes-for-Mass-Effect-Comments-Following-Blowback their ratings have been proven to be a fraud, so the claim that they're the "most watched" cable news channel is also a lie. How they report their ratings is also a lie, of omission:Quote: It has been well documented that Fox News is a disreputable enterprise that shuns any semblance of journalistic ethics. The most recent example, producing and airing an anti-Obama campaign-style video, perfectly demonstrates how far afield they are from a being legitimate news organization. Amongst the traits of Fox News that separate them from the pack is their tendency to attack their peers in the news business. That is almost unheard of from other cable networks, newspapers, or other outlets. Today Fox News continued in that vein by leaping on the Nielsen ratings reports for May 2012. To be sure, CNN’s ratings were dismal. But so were the ratings for Fox which declined double digits and notched a primetime low that they haven’t seen since 2008. Nevertheless, Fox reported only on CNN’s numbers and ignored their own sickly showing. And nowhere in their story did they note that the decline was primarily due to the inflated ratings in May 2011, when the killing of Osama Bin Laden, hurricanes in the Midwest, and Casey Anthony were dominating the airwaves. When Fox News began to approach and overtake CNN in the ratings, CNN management made the foolish mistake of concluding that Fox’s success was related to their blatant conservative bias and abandonment of journalistic principles. While that was (and is) the model for Fox’s programming, that played only a small part in their success story. The real reason that Fox excelled was that they had switched the deck. They were not in any practical sense a news network. Their programming was (and is) closer to an entertainment channel than anything else. They feature shallow, sensationalistic stories that rely heavily on melodrama, controversy, emotion and sex – the main characteristics of soap operas and reality shows. And they decorate their broadcasts with flashy graphics and sound effects that would be more appropriate for game shows. That’s what draws their viewers in, and that is always more compelling than actual news content. http://www.newscorpse.com/ncWP/?cat=6/ The story is actually about how CNN screwed up by trying to out-right FauxNews, which all but killed them, but the pertinent part fo me is that last paragraph. I never thought of it, but yeah, the "news" the way FauxNews presents it IS closer to entertainment than news, so people who don't really give a shit about the news might well watch it rather than an actual news network. Interesting thought. Nonetheless, there are so many examples of FoxNoise's deliberate frauds and pathetic incompetence that, all in all, they're just a joke. That they call themselves "fair and balanced" is the biggest joke of all! Wanna keep going? When it comes to FauxNews, I could put up this shit all day, there's so much of it out there. Yeah, I've got a hard on for them; it sickens me the way they operate and how they harm the entire country by doing so. I'm quite content to take the time to show them for what they are any time. I dare you to find that many examples of that much incompetence and fraud from any other channel. You won't take up the dare, of course, because you can't, and because you'd rather mischaracterize the "fraud" of other channels in an attempt to find something, anything, to defend your holy grail. It's easier to believe in FoxNoise than it is to face the truth, I know, but the truth is everyone but those like you and Raptor who swallow their shit whole hog knows what a joke Fox is. Put THAT in your pipe and smoke it!
Quote:Mass Effect sex scandal 'embarrassed' Fox News Ray Muzyka looks back and laughs at dodgy reporting http://www.computerandvideogames.com/240891/mass-effect-sex-scandal-embarrassed-fox-news-bioware/
Quote: Faced with a barrage of negative one-star reviews for her book by people who never read it, Cooper Lawrence apologized for hyperbolic comments about a game she never played. The author and commentator had blasted Mass Effect on Fox News recently for its sexual content but conceded later that she never even played the game. "I recognize that I misspoke," she said. "I really regret saying that, and now that I've seen the game and seen the sex scenes it's kind of a joke. ... Before the show I had asked somebody about what they had heard, and they had said it's like pornography. But it's not like pornography. I've seen episodes of Lost that are more sexually explicit." While "asking someone what they heard" about a product apparently passed the low ethics hurdle at Fox News, it did not sit well with gamers, who expressed their outrage by blasting Amazon.com's web page featuring her book with one-star reviews, all of which have since been deleted. Electronic Arts and BioWare also protested Lawrence's comments in the form of public statements. Fox News itself issued no apologies. http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/81009-Fox-News-Commentator-Apologizes-for-Mass-Effect-Comments-Following-Blowback their ratings have been proven to be a fraud, so the claim that they're the "most watched" cable news channel is also a lie. How they report their ratings is also a lie, of omission:Quote: It has been well documented that Fox News is a disreputable enterprise that shuns any semblance of journalistic ethics. The most recent example, producing and airing an anti-Obama campaign-style video, perfectly demonstrates how far afield they are from a being legitimate news organization. Amongst the traits of Fox News that separate them from the pack is their tendency to attack their peers in the news business. That is almost unheard of from other cable networks, newspapers, or other outlets. Today Fox News continued in that vein by leaping on the Nielsen ratings reports for May 2012. To be sure, CNN’s ratings were dismal. But so were the ratings for Fox which declined double digits and notched a primetime low that they haven’t seen since 2008. Nevertheless, Fox reported only on CNN’s numbers and ignored their own sickly showing. And nowhere in their story did they note that the decline was primarily due to the inflated ratings in May 2011, when the killing of Osama Bin Laden, hurricanes in the Midwest, and Casey Anthony were dominating the airwaves. When Fox News began to approach and overtake CNN in the ratings, CNN management made the foolish mistake of concluding that Fox’s success was related to their blatant conservative bias and abandonment of journalistic principles. While that was (and is) the model for Fox’s programming, that played only a small part in their success story. The real reason that Fox excelled was that they had switched the deck. They were not in any practical sense a news network. Their programming was (and is) closer to an entertainment channel than anything else. They feature shallow, sensationalistic stories that rely heavily on melodrama, controversy, emotion and sex – the main characteristics of soap operas and reality shows. And they decorate their broadcasts with flashy graphics and sound effects that would be more appropriate for game shows. That’s what draws their viewers in, and that is always more compelling than actual news content. http://www.newscorpse.com/ncWP/?cat=6/ The story is actually about how CNN screwed up by trying to out-right FauxNews, which all but killed them, but the pertinent part fo me is that last paragraph. I never thought of it, but yeah, the "news" the way FauxNews presents it IS closer to entertainment than news, so people who don't really give a shit about the news might well watch it rather than an actual news network. Interesting thought. Nonetheless, there are so many examples of FoxNoise's deliberate frauds and pathetic incompetence that, all in all, they're just a joke. That they call themselves "fair and balanced" is the biggest joke of all! Wanna keep going? When it comes to FauxNews, I could put up this shit all day, there's so much of it out there. Yeah, I've got a hard on for them; it sickens me the way they operate and how they harm the entire country by doing so. I'm quite content to take the time to show them for what they are any time. I dare you to find that many examples of that much incompetence and fraud from any other channel. You won't take up the dare, of course, because you can't, and because you'd rather mischaracterize the "fraud" of other channels in an attempt to find something, anything, to defend your holy grail. It's easier to believe in FoxNoise than it is to face the truth, I know, but the truth is everyone but those like you and Raptor who swallow their shit whole hog knows what a joke Fox is. Put THAT in your pipe and smoke it!
Quote: It has been well documented that Fox News is a disreputable enterprise that shuns any semblance of journalistic ethics. The most recent example, producing and airing an anti-Obama campaign-style video, perfectly demonstrates how far afield they are from a being legitimate news organization. Amongst the traits of Fox News that separate them from the pack is their tendency to attack their peers in the news business. That is almost unheard of from other cable networks, newspapers, or other outlets. Today Fox News continued in that vein by leaping on the Nielsen ratings reports for May 2012. To be sure, CNN’s ratings were dismal. But so were the ratings for Fox which declined double digits and notched a primetime low that they haven’t seen since 2008. Nevertheless, Fox reported only on CNN’s numbers and ignored their own sickly showing. And nowhere in their story did they note that the decline was primarily due to the inflated ratings in May 2011, when the killing of Osama Bin Laden, hurricanes in the Midwest, and Casey Anthony were dominating the airwaves. When Fox News began to approach and overtake CNN in the ratings, CNN management made the foolish mistake of concluding that Fox’s success was related to their blatant conservative bias and abandonment of journalistic principles. While that was (and is) the model for Fox’s programming, that played only a small part in their success story. The real reason that Fox excelled was that they had switched the deck. They were not in any practical sense a news network. Their programming was (and is) closer to an entertainment channel than anything else. They feature shallow, sensationalistic stories that rely heavily on melodrama, controversy, emotion and sex – the main characteristics of soap operas and reality shows. And they decorate their broadcasts with flashy graphics and sound effects that would be more appropriate for game shows. That’s what draws their viewers in, and that is always more compelling than actual news content. http://www.newscorpse.com/ncWP/?cat=6/
Tuesday, June 26, 2012 11:56 AM
Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:30 PM
Quote:Also, aren't ellipses used to indicate a quote? In the case in point, it WAS supposedly a quote--a wrong one, obviously, but a quote nonetheless.
Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:34 PM
Tuesday, June 26, 2012 1:05 PM
Quote:Posted by Niki: I don't buy the Tina Fey thing, tho', Mike, sorry. They look so much alike, I'm actually surprised that doesn't happen more often!
Wednesday, June 27, 2012 7:10 AM
Thursday, June 28, 2012 7:41 AM
Thursday, June 28, 2012 7:44 AM
ANTHONYT
Freedom is Important because People are Important
Thursday, June 28, 2012 8:09 AM
Quote:Originally posted by ANTHONYT: Hello, Please tell me this is a photoshop. --Anthony
Thursday, June 28, 2012 8:52 AM
Thursday, June 28, 2012 11:11 AM
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