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FauxNews strikes again...and yet again

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Saturday, June 23, 2012 8:09 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


FauxNews at its best. Can't resist these.

Caught an interesting one the other day. Sean Hannity showing part of a clip of Lawrence O'Donnel's remarks. O'Donnel started by saying that Ann Romney's involvement in dressage was a method she used to deal with her MS, and cracked "I mean, come on, dressage?", that it didn't appear in any of the traditional courses ofr treatment. He added that it was in no way intended to make light of Ann Romney's difficulty with MS, it's obviously a very difficult thing to bear. That's as far as the clip went, and they then crowed about "how low can you go?", etc.

Of course, the clip was edited. What they left out was O'Donnel asking why, if dressage was a way she coped with MS, did the horse appear on Romney's tax form as a business expense which in 2010 provided a $77,000 business deduction? Not a healthcare deduction, a business deduction. Obviously that was the crux of his comments, and he spent the rest of the segment on that.

Now, I object to both O'Donnel characterizing dressage as something "if it's true this is how wildly rich people deal with this very difficult health problem", calling it "a breathtakingly expensive so-called sport" and snarking "I mean come on, dressage?" Dressage is a very difficult sport--and it IS a sport, it takes a lot of physical talent to do well, for both the horse and the rider. I won't go into the history of dressage (which I know well) and how much I admire the beauty of it. He's entitled to his opinion, however crass I may find it.

AND I object to O'Donnel snarking that it's not a common treatment. I think he could have opened his segment in a dozen better ways, but again, it's MSNBC and I know their M.O.

Nonetheless, to clip the segment so as to totally ignore the purpose of the segment, then claim it is an "attack" on Ann Romney is Hannity at his best.

Then there's this one:

Hannity showed a clip of Obama nine months ago saying "This notion that somehow I can just change the laws unilaterally is just not true. The fact of the matter is there are laws on the books that I have to enforce and I think there's been a great disservice done getting the Dream Act passed and getting immigration passed by perpetrating the notion that somehow by myself I can do these things. It's just not true." Hannity played it with respect to Obama's recent immigration actions, essentially saying Obama knew he couldn't do what he just DID with regard to immigration.

Of course, this was yet again an edited clip. What followed, which Hannity left out, was Obama continuing: "Of course, what we CAN do is to prioritize enforcement, since there are limited enforcement resources, to say 'we're not going to go chasing after this young man or anybody else who's been acting responsibly and who would otherwise qualify for legal status if the Dream Act passed'." Which is exactly what he's done.

Hannity claimed what Obama did was "completely without precedent in our democracy"...acting unilaterally with regard to deportation policy. That's a blatant lie, given the fact that Bush, Clinton, Bush Sr. AND Reagan all changed deportation policy through executive action. Of course.

Full segment from Daily Show (starts at 3:30): http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-june-19-2012/democalypse-2012---
pander-express-edition---obama-s-immigration-reform


So there you have it. Hannity deliberately lying, first off, and then cutting video clips to make points that have nothing to do with the clips in question. FauxNews at its very best.

Okay, Righties, get busy showing how other media has cut clips to do "exactly" the same thing. Don't think you'll find much, but you can try, and you can try to equate what you find with "exactly" the same thing FauxNews did, and does on a regular basis. Have fun.

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Saturday, June 23, 2012 8:31 AM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


This Hannity and his team seems like the lowest of the low.

It's not personal. It's just war.

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Saturday, June 23, 2012 8:43 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by kpo:
This Hannity and his team seems like the lowest of the low.

It's not personal. It's just war.



'Seems like',but compared to the lies from MSNBC, FOX news is the paragon of virtue.


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" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Saturday, June 23, 2012 10:53 AM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


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compared to the lies from MSNBC


I'm all ears.

It's not personal. It's just war.

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Saturday, June 23, 2012 12:13 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Yeah, KPO, I agree. Let's see some examples; I provided two very clear examples and the clips to PROVE them. Unless someone can provide equally clear and provable examples, what I said stands. FauxNews is the only one who WENT TO COURT to have the law explicitly say that "news" media DOES NOT HAVE TO TELL THE TRUTH. No doubt others shade things, I've complained about it myself and generally recognize when they're doing so, but I've never seen anything as consistent and blatant as FauxNews...and Romney...who, when proven to have lied, just ignores it. Let's see anyone prove otherwise.

The dare is offered; otherwise, nobody has anything to say about the "truthiness" of FauxNews.


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Monday, June 25, 2012 6:26 AM

CAVETROLL


Here you go. They prefer to lie by manipulating audio and video. Much worse, because they are trying to put words in their victim's mouths.

http://blog.sfgate.com/nov05election/2012/06/19/msnbc-busted-for-editi
ng-romney-comments-out-of-context-backtracks-sorta-video
/

This article in the Miami Herald notes that MSNBC used ellipses in their web coverage of a bogus story run by NBC. Damning evidence that they knew the source was bogus, but they still ran it.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/04/09/2739691/today-shows-dirty-editin
g-of-911.html



Kwindbago, hot air and angry electrons

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Monday, June 25, 2012 6:55 AM

BYTEMITE


Let me see. Word association game. How many applicable descriptive terms can I come up with: news media variation.

Two-sided coin, Janus head, duplicitous, two-faced, double-edged, collusion, byzantine, reichsadler, wedge politics, divide-and-rule...

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Monday, June 25, 2012 7:23 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by Troll:
Here you go. They prefer to lie by manipulating audio and video. Much worse, because they are trying to put words in their victim's mouths.



Wow, that's terrible that anyone would do that. Has Breitbart been notified that this is going on?







"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero


"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy

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Monday, June 25, 2012 10:45 AM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


Cavetroll,

I agree that the NBC editing of the Zimmerman 911 tape was shameful, and am glad the guy in charge has been fired. As for MSNBC's role...

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the Miami Herald notes that MSNBC used ellipses in their web coverage of a bogus story run by NBC. Damning evidence that they knew the source was bogus, but they still ran it.


I'm not sure I agree with the allegation the article is making - if I understand it correctly - MSNBC knew the quote had been edited dishonestly but still put it on their website? But the original NBC edited quote had ellipses (watch the tape)... So it seems to me MSNBC could have just copied it, and are not necessarily complicit in the dishonesty.

As for the MSNBC coverage of Romney's speech. Let's be clear, you're allowed to edit for brevity. You're not allowed to edit to take something out of context or otherwise make things appear different. In other words, editing raw footage should not in any way enhance the point that you're making, it should just let you make that point quicker. I think the point MSNBC was making about Romney (that he is out of touch, because the WaWa machine was a new experience to him) was a weak one; but I don't think the edit enhanced that point - it just sped it up.

It's not personal. It's just war.

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Monday, June 25, 2012 11:35 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

I'm not sure I agree with the allegation the article is making - if I understand it correctly - MSNBC knew the quote had been edited dishonestly but still put it on their website? But the original NBC edited quote had ellipses (watch the tape)... So it seems to me MSNBC could have just copied it, and are not necessarily complicit in the dishonesty.



Because if that's true - that MSNBC just re-aired what NBC had already shown (which happens quite a bit, being owned by the same company and all...) - and the troll is still insisting that that makes MSNBC complicit in the dishonesty...

... Then doesn't FauxNews's airing and re-airing and re-airing of the heavily-edited ACORN tapes and Shirley Sherrod tapes mean they're intentionally dishonest in their representations of the facts?



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero


"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy

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Monday, June 25, 2012 12:48 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Bwhahahahahahah!!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/23/fox-news-mitch-daniels-jerry-
sandusky_n_1621516.html




Clearly a plot to misrepresent Mitch Daniels as a pedophile, right?






"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero


"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy

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Tuesday, June 26, 2012 11:18 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


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I think the point MSNBC was making about Romney (that he is out of touch, because the WaWa machine was a new experience to him) was a weak one; but I don't think the edit enhanced that point - it just sped it up.
Yup. The didn't "put words in his mouth", they edited for the point they were making (and yes, I think it was a pretty weak one, too, but again, I'm aware of MSNBC's bent).

I remember the Zimmerman thing and I decried at the time. It got ALL KINDS of media coverage, was a real black eye for MSNBC. But that's part of the point; when MSNBC or someone else does it, it gets coverage like crazy. When FauxNews does it (daily, regularly and repetitively), nobody hears about it except those who watch MSNBC.

Also, aren't ellipses used to indicate a quote? In the case in point, it WAS supposedly a quote--a wrong one, obviously, but a quote nonetheless. If they're quoting something, they use ellipses, it's not just used to indicate something questionable.

The two FauxNews instances I posted are different. In the first place, they called it an ATTACK on Mrs. Romney. It wasn't at all; if they'd played the whole thing, it would have been obvious that O'Donnel had expressed considerable sympathy for her dealing with MS and never "attacked" her at all. In that case, editing changed his point by omitting his words of sympathy.

The Obama one is just as egregious. By leaving out what he said after their clip, they tried to make the point that he'd just done what he said he couldn't do...but what he said was absolutely true, he couldn't change the laws, but legally he could encourage ICE to utilize their resources to go after illegal immigrants actually committing a crime. ICE is overburdened in trying to deal with undocumented aliens, it makes perfect sense to go after the criminal ones as a priority.

They changed it completely, trying to say he admitted he couldn't do what he has done. He HAS done what he said he could, and hasn't changed any laws, as he said he couldn't. In that case, it's a bald-faced lie.

I don't buy the Tina Fey thing, tho', Mike, sorry. They look so much alike, I'm actually surprised that doesn't happen more often!

But FauxNews has been found guilty of fraud over and over...we all remember the most famous one:



And then there's this:
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Has Fox News been caught doctoring stories once again? According to a new video circulating online as of yesterday, it appears so. While trying to offer “Fair and Balanced” reporting on the recent riots in Moscow in which some thousands of people have taken to the streets to protest Vladimir Putin’s return to power, the folks at Fox News apparently decided to show viewers footage of the protests. Except the violent, fiery images shown during their broadcast on December 7 were not of Moscow at all but were actually re-purposed video shots from protests in Greece earlier this year. http://flipthemedia.com/2011/12/fox-news-caught-using-fake-riot-footag
e-in-russia
/

aaaand
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The ongoing labor protests in Wisconsin have been relatively peaceful, with union workers and supporters rallying non-violently in opposition to Governor Scott Walker's controversial proposal to end collective bargaining rights for public unions.

Fox News Channel viewers, however, might get a different impression, thanks in part to footage that was not shot anywhere near Wisconsin. Monday night's episode of "The O'Reilly Factor" included video from a solidarity protest in Sacramento in a segment on the protests in Wisconsin. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/02/wisconsin-protests-fox-news-s
acramento_n_830314.html

I remember this one, and it was only MSNBC and Jon Stewart who caught it:
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Fox News got themselves in hot water Tuesday when they played the boos from the 2010 conference on Ron Paul’s Conservative Political Action Conference’s presidential straw poll win and said it was from the 2011 conference.

The Texas congressman’s supporters say that the station intentionally mixed up the footage to place Paul in a negative lighter against Mitt Romney, who placed second in the poll.

This is not the first time Fox has made a controversial error with their footage. They used footage from a 2008 event to show that Palin was “drawing huge crowds” when she went on her book tour. In 2009, Sean Hannity had Rep. Michele Bachmann describing an anti-health care reform rally while footage from a larger event months prior by Glenn Beck aired. http://libertarianviewpoint.com/blog/?p=4523



You can take your pick: Deliberate fraud or amazing incompetence? When it comes to incompetence, they take the prize THERE, too:
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In the last two weeks, we've pointed out that Fox News' graphics department stunningly failed to accurately portray the fact that the unemployment rate dropped from 9 percent to 8.6 percent in November.

But Fox's graphics woes apparently aren't limited to misrepresenting the unemployment rate. Tonight, the network's premiere "straight news" political program, Special Report with Bret Baier, did a segment on possible paths to victory for President Obama's re-election campaign. And in one graphic, Fox mislabeled Utah as Nevada:


Soon afterward, Fox mislabeled Vermont as New Hampshire:



In July 2009, Fox aired this confused map of the Middle East:



And in March, a Fox map stated that Japan had a nuclear power plant in "Shibuyaeggman," an apparent reference to a Tokyo dance club.

http://cloudfront.mediamatters.org/static/images/item/fnc-20110314-Shi
buyaeggman.JPG


It seems that Fox's 2009 pledge of "zero tolerance for on-screen errors" has not worked very well. http://mediamatters.org/blog/201112130027

If you want to go with "incompetence", I can buy that.

But is this mere "incompetence"?
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Check out the Fox News chart above. Looks pretty clean and sweet, no? The numbers are accurate, it’s got a source line, plenty of detail, etc. So what could possibly be wrong with it?

As Media Matters for America notes,. pull back from the screen and focus only on the trend line, not on the numbers. See something off? As Media Matters’ Zachary Pleat writes, “the 8.6 percent unemployment rate in November looks higher than March’s 8.8 percent rate, and about the same as the 9 percent unemployment rate in October.” Even though things are improving just slightly, the chart’s message is that they’re not.

Everything we know about computer-generated graphics tells us that a double-jointed chart like this doesn’t just self-generate. That is, to get a trend line to defy the numbers attached to it has to require effort and enterprise. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/post/fox-newss-unemplo
yment-chart-better-graphics/2011/12/12/gIQAUVgNqO_blog.html

Could add to the "incompetence" side this amusing one, where they put a photo of Obama up labeled as "Romney". Here's a really cool example of their incompetence, which couldn't even POSSIBLY have been intentional:
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Mitt Romney has turned black, at least according to a graphic that appeared on a Fox News program today. Have a look — this is strange even by the standards of this Republican race. http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201112140011]
or
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Mass Effect sex scandal 'embarrassed' Fox News

Ray Muzyka looks back and laughs at dodgy reporting http://www.computerandvideogames.com/240891/mass-effect-sex-scandal-em
barrassed-fox-news-bioware
/

They got in a lot of trouble for that one and it DID get some coverage, forcing their commentator (but not FauxNews itself) to apologize:
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Faced with a barrage of negative one-star reviews for her book by people who never read it, Cooper Lawrence apologized for hyperbolic comments about a game she never played.

The author and commentator had blasted Mass Effect on Fox News recently for its sexual content but conceded later that she never even played the game.

"I recognize that I misspoke," she said. "I really regret saying that, and now that I've seen the game and seen the sex scenes it's kind of a joke. ... Before the show I had asked somebody about what they had heard, and they had said it's like pornography. But it's not like pornography. I've seen episodes of Lost that are more sexually explicit."

While "asking someone what they heard" about a product apparently passed the low ethics hurdle at Fox News, it did not sit well with gamers, who expressed their outrage by blasting Amazon.com's web page featuring her book with one-star reviews, all of which have since been deleted.

Electronic Arts and BioWare also protested Lawrence's comments in the form of public statements.

Fox News itself issued no apologies. http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/81009-Fox-News-Commentator-A
pologizes-for-Mass-Effect-Comments-Following-Blowback
their ratings have been proven to be a fraud, so the claim that they're the "most watched" cable news channel is also a lie. How they report their ratings is also a lie, of omission:
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It has been well documented that Fox News is a disreputable enterprise that shuns any semblance of journalistic ethics. The most recent example, producing and airing an anti-Obama campaign-style video, perfectly demonstrates how far afield they are from a being legitimate news organization. Amongst the traits of Fox News that separate them from the pack is their tendency to attack their peers in the news business. That is almost unheard of from other cable networks, newspapers, or other outlets.

Today Fox News continued in that vein by leaping on the Nielsen ratings reports for May 2012. To be sure, CNN’s ratings were dismal. But so were the ratings for Fox which declined double digits and notched a primetime low that they haven’t seen since 2008. Nevertheless, Fox reported only on CNN’s numbers and ignored their own sickly showing. And nowhere in their story did they note that the decline was primarily due to the inflated ratings in May 2011, when the killing of Osama Bin Laden, hurricanes in the Midwest, and Casey Anthony were dominating the airwaves.

When Fox News began to approach and overtake CNN in the ratings, CNN management made the foolish mistake of concluding that Fox’s success was related to their blatant conservative bias and abandonment of journalistic principles. While that was (and is) the model for Fox’s programming, that played only a small part in their success story. The real reason that Fox excelled was that they had switched the deck. They were not in any practical sense a news network. Their programming was (and is) closer to an entertainment channel than anything else. They feature shallow, sensationalistic stories that rely heavily on melodrama, controversy, emotion and sex – the main characteristics of soap operas and reality shows. And they decorate their broadcasts with flashy graphics and sound effects that would be more appropriate for game shows. That’s what draws their viewers in, and that is always more compelling than actual news content. http://www.newscorpse.com/ncWP/?cat=6/

The story is actually about how CNN screwed up by trying to out-right FauxNews, which all but killed them, but the pertinent part fo me is that last paragraph. I never thought of it, but yeah, the "news" the way FauxNews presents it IS closer to entertainment than news, so people who don't really give a shit about the news might well watch it rather than an actual news network. Interesting thought.

Nonetheless, there are so many examples of FoxNoise's deliberate frauds and pathetic incompetence that, all in all, they're just a joke. That they call themselves "fair and balanced" is the biggest joke of all!

Wanna keep going? When it comes to FauxNews, I could put up this shit all day, there's so much of it out there. Yeah, I've got a hard on for them; it sickens me the way they operate and how they harm the entire country by doing so. I'm quite content to take the time to show them for what they are any time.

I dare you to find that many examples of that much incompetence and fraud from any other channel. You won't take up the dare, of course, because you can't, and because you'd rather mischaracterize the "fraud" of other channels in an attempt to find something, anything, to defend your holy grail. It's easier to believe in FoxNoise than it is to face the truth, I know, but the truth is everyone but those like you and Raptor who swallow their shit whole hog knows what a joke Fox is.

Put THAT in your pipe and smoke it!


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Tuesday, June 26, 2012 11:56 AM

BYTEMITE


If even Jack Thompson doesn't care about the content in a video game, it''s probably a waste of time to get offended about it.

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Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:30 PM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


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Also, aren't ellipses used to indicate a quote? In the case in point, it WAS supposedly a quote--a wrong one, obviously, but a quote nonetheless.


Ellipses are the 'dot-dot-dot' that show where part of a quote is missing. The quote NBC used wasn't fabricated, it was edited - they removed part of the conversation and replaced it with ellipses - as you're supposed to do, but there was no justification for that edit (other than to make Zimmerman look bad) and they didn't make it clear enough that there was a break in the conversation. The NBC tape is discussed and shown here, about 1 minute in:




It's not personal. It's just war.

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Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:34 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Oops, yeah, brain fart. I see the point.

Byte, I'm not offended. Video games mean nothing to me, but it seriously affected the maker of the game and cost them money, which is wrong, period. That was just one example out of how many? Why did you choose to focus on that one and ignore the mountain of evidence that FauxNews is either biased or incompetent, or both?


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Tuesday, June 26, 2012 1:05 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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I don't buy the Tina Fey thing, tho', Mike, sorry. They look so much alike, I'm actually surprised that doesn't happen more often!




I think I speak for everyone when I say... "Huh?!"


I didn't post anything about Tina Fey that I'm aware of. I posted a link where it shows FauxNews going on about Jerry Sandusky at length, all the while showing video of GOP idol Mitch Daniels.

Kinda makes me wonder whose dick at FauxNews Daniels quit holding...



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero


"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy

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Wednesday, June 27, 2012 7:10 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Apologies, Mike. I read the link you put up, and was remarking on "This is hardly Fox's first case of mistaken identity. Last year, the network accidentally aired footage of Tina Fey impersonating Sarah Palin instead of Palin herself" in the article. The Daniels/Sandusky thing is an example of their incompetence (but not their deliberate intention, in my opinion), but I didn't think the Tina Fey comment was valid, for the reason I explained.


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Thursday, June 28, 2012 7:41 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


And in today's news, FauxNews is really horrible at news. Also, water is wet. :)







"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero


"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy

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Thursday, June 28, 2012 7:44 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Hello,

Please tell me this is a photoshop.

--Anthony



Note to Self:
Raptor - woman testifying about birth control is a slut (the term fits.)
Six - Wow, isn't Niki quite the CUNT? And, yes, I spell that in all caps....
Wulf - Niki is a stupid fucking bitch who should hurry up and die.

“The stupid neither forgive nor forget; the naive forgive and forget; the wise forgive but do not forget.” -Thomas Szasz

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Thursday, June 28, 2012 8:09 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by ANTHONYT:
Hello,

Please tell me this is a photoshop.

--Anthony




I would if I could, but I can't so I won't.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/oops-cnn-fox-blow-health-care
-ruling-coverage-article-1.1103882




"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero


"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy

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Thursday, June 28, 2012 8:52 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Hello,

It seems CNN made this mistake as well.

--Anthony



Note to Self:
Raptor - woman testifying about birth control is a slut (the term fits.)
Six - Wow, isn't Niki quite the CUNT? And, yes, I spell that in all caps....
Wulf - Niki is a stupid fucking bitch who should hurry up and die.

“The stupid neither forgive nor forget; the naive forgive and forget; the wise forgive but do not forget.” -Thomas Szasz

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Thursday, June 28, 2012 11:11 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Actually, I don't find it too surprising. Apparently the ruling is complex, and when they got to Justice Roberts saying, and they read, that the mandate was not valid under the Commerce clause, they jumped on it. Tho' they did add "be patient as we work through this". Then when they got to the part where the mandate could be upheld under the government's power to tax, they corrected themselves.

Given politicians all over the place have been taping multiple responses for airing, depending on which one ends up being accurate, it doesn't particularly surprise me that both stations expected (as did we all) the mandate would be struck down, and leaped before they looked. It's a conundrum; in this day and age of everyone scooping everyone else within seconds, the desire to be the "first ones out there with the news" must be pretty strong. Nonetheless it is really bad reporting, and embarrassed both of them. I file that under the "incompetent" side of the ledger, for which I can forgive both FauxNews and CNN, not as fraud or a dirty trick.

And a sign of the times we live in...



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