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Originally posted by HKCavalier:
You know, Rap, regardless of the variety of individual expression, there is such a thing as latino culture. And American Catholic culture. And there is some overlap there. And Biden knows that. Cultural commonality is one of the things that humans find most comforting on this earth. He was speaking to that. Sorry all you got is hate on this one. And trying to get some traction for hating Joe Biden by throwing up this other guy from 14 freakin' years ago totally arbitrarily, is the weakest of weak sauce. Your guilt by free association tactics ain't gonna work.

HKCavalier

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
So, when a Democrat ( like Biden ) panders to an audience, of a specific make up, he's showing respect and appreciation for the differences which make that group unique. However, when anyone else, not a Democrat or Liberal, takes note of certain qualifiers or differences, say like Ross Perot calling members of the naacp " you people ", he's being bigoted, racist and demeaning.

Got it. Thanks for the clarification.

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Originally posted by whozit:
He really is a fucking idiot.

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Listen Rap,

You are not schooling me on this...

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He really is a fucking idiot.

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You're right - Rappy boy is an idiot of fucking amazing proportions.


Note to anyone - Please pity the poor, poor wittle Rappyboy. He's feeling put upon lately, what with all those facts disagreeing with what he believes.

I'm talking about the dimwit with the hairplugs, bleeched teeth and fake tan....and IQ of 7

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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You know, Rap, regardless of the variety of individual expression, there is such a thing as latino culture. And American Catholic culture. And there is some overlap there. And Biden knows that. Cultural commonality is one of the things that humans find most comforting on this earth. He was speaking to that. Sorry all you got is hate on this one. And trying to get some traction for hating Joe Biden by throwing up this other guy from 14 freakin' years ago totally arbitrarily, is the weakest of weak sauce. Your guilt by free association tactics ain't gonna work.

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So, when a Democrat ( like Biden ) panders to an audience, of a specific make up, he's showing respect and appreciation for the differences which make that group unique. However, when anyone else, not a Democrat or Liberal, takes note of certain qualifiers or differences, say like Ross Perot calling members of the naacp " you people ", he's being bigoted, racist and demeaning.

Got it. Thanks for the clarification.

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He really is a fucking idiot.

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You're right - Rappy boy is an idiot of fucking amazing proportions.

I'm talking about the dimwit with the hairplugs, bleeched teeth and fake tan....and IQ of 7

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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"Financially at least, it's going to be a long, hot summer," Perot said. "Now I don't have to tell you who gets hurt first when this sort of thing happens, do I? You people do, your people do. I know that, you know that."

After the 30-minute speech, delegate Harold A. Sanders, president of the Tucson, Ariz., branch of the NAACP, said: "Ross Perot worries me. I'm not sure that in the area of civil rights he has the cultural sensitivity that's required or the staff to advise him. His comments on drugs and crime were offensive. If he'd said they were a problem for all of us, I could have accepted that. But his remarks were very insensitive. Once again, he's shown he has not done his homework."

Delegate Georgia Verdier, of Corning, N.Y., agreed, saying, "It's not a 'you' thing and an 'I' thing. It's a 'we' thing."

Perot, in an interview with CNN several hours after the speech, said "it never occurred to me" that any of his listeners would be offended by his remarks and apologized to those who were.

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Where was I wrong? I asked you to show where anyone HERE had sad Perot was a racist.


You failed to do so, proving me completely right.

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Senate Judiciary Chairman Says Gun Control Is 'Top Priority'
https://freebeacon.com/democrats/senate-judiciary-chairman-says-gun-co
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if a white,conservative guy acknowledges differences in a group of minorities, he's " racist ", but if it's a Lib / Dem doing it, HE " understands " and appreciates them

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Where did he get that??? There's a big difference between saying "YOUR people", which indicates a specific group of people, and describing a personal experience with which others might identify.

Raptor's whole premise is ridiculous. In other words, one may never relate a personal experience lest it be seen as sucking up to a group of people, I take it. Perot didn't say anything about himself, and his use of "your people"--what can that mean, except "the group of people to whom you are a part"? GROUP of people, got it? What Biden did was tell something about his own past--sure, for political reasons--to people who might have experienced the same thing. Did he say "YOUR people would understand that" or anything even close to that? He made a joke to the effect of "I'm sure none of you have experienced that"...meaning individuals. Yeah, he was talking to a crowd which WOULD have a greater likelihood of having experienced it, but he was talking to them as someone who experienced the same thing, not as someone talking from outside the group and further distancing himself by saying 'YOUR people".

All of which is a waste of typing, I realize. Raptor just jumped on it because some right-wing source jumped on it and gave him the talking points, nothing more. He's not interested in understanding, just in arguing.

Cav's right: "Cultural commonality is one of the things that humans find most comforting on this earth. He was speaking to that." As for "Sorry all you got is hate on this one", darlin' Cav, that's all he's got for ANYTHING, y'know?

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when a Democrat ( like Biden ) panders to an audience, of a specific make up, he's showing respect and appreciation for the differences which make that group unique. However, when anyone else, not a Democrat or Liberal, takes note of certain qualifiers or differences, say like Ross Perot calling members of the naacp " you people ", he's being bigoted, racist and demeaning.

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No. When someone shares an experience with an audience of a makeup which has encountered the same sort of thing, he's using something he's shared with them as a political ploy. However, when someone expounds to an audience and says of them "you people", he's trying to reach an audience but actually pushing them away. It's an unfortunate choice of words, but doesn't make them a racist! Ross Perot's was a gaffe; Biden's wasn't. Simple as that. Doesn't matter which party either person belongs to.

Lord knows Democrats, and especially Biden, have made gaffes enough that you could find something better to point to...and surely you don't have to go back 14-15 YEARS to find a comeback! Or not...but either way, those are pretty pathetic. As is your mentality which jumps to someone sharing their OWN story to someone "pandering". Political context it was, one can't "pander" by describing one's own background, it is what it is.

Now, if you want some REAL pandering--by LYING--about, how about:

Now THAT's pandering of the first order...not only did he lie about SEEING his father march with King, but his father DIDN'T march with King. That's a two-fer! And happened more recently than 14-20 years ago, to boot!

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Hate-filled enemies of good. They will be crushed.

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