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Limbaugh goes off the deep end...again

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Thursday, July 19, 2012 8:34 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


I love it. I just love it. This pathetically egotistical, insane entertainer never stops providing material for stand-up comics:
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Put this one in Rush Limbaugh’s greatest hits collection. Now he’s seeing liberal conspiracies in the new “Batman” movie, “The Dark Knight Rises.”

On his show this week, El Rushbo pointed out that the villain in the new flick, which opens Friday is called “Bane.” As in it sounds like “Bain”…as in “Bain Capital,” the sweet spot for the past many months of attacks from Obama supporters — and Romney’s fellow Republicans in the primary. Did we all forget that the pro-Gingrich super PAC paid to air a 27-minute documentary slamming Romney’s Bain tenure?

But to Rush, it is only a liberal conspiracy. Said Rush:
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“The villain in “The Dark Knight Rises” is named Bane, B-a-n-e. What is the name of the venture capital firm that Romney ran and around which there’s now this make-believe controversy? Bain. The movie has been in the works for a long time. The release date’s been known, summer 2012 for a long time. Do you think that it is accidental that the name of the really vicious fire breathing four eyed whatever it is villain in this movie is named Bane?”
Stick with Rush here, because he’s about to leap the Logic Gap:
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“A lot of people are gonna see the movie, and it’s a lot of brain-dead people, entertainment, the pop culture crowd, and they’re gonna hear Bane in the movie and they’re gonna associate Bain. The thought is that when they start paying attention to the campaign later in the year, and Obama and the Democrats keep talking about Bain, Romney and Bain, that these people will think back to the Batman movie, “Oh, yeah, I know who that is.”
We don’t doubt for a second that once this latest “Batman” becomes a megahit, Democratic operatives will be making Bane/Bain references with such regularity that you’ll want to hurl. We’ll bet the price of a 3-D movie ticket on that.

That said, there are (at least) two problems with Rush’s liberal conspiracy theory/way to kill three hours every morning:

1. The Bane character was created in 1992…about a year before Mitt Romney was even thinking of starting his unsuccessful Senate campaign in Massachusetts. He — Bane, not Romney — debuted in 1993.

2. The Bane character was created by a CONSERVATIVE, Chuck Dixon.

“Graham and I are both staunch conservatives, so from our angle there is no liberal agenda,” Dixon said, name-checking his partner Graham Nolan.

“It’s ridiculous. Obviously Bane was not created as an attack on Mitt Romney. We never heard of Romney twenty years ago,” Dixon told the nationally syndicated “Schnitt Show” Tuesday.

Besides, Dixon said the comparison between Bane and Romney doesn’t work. “My understanding is that Bane is more of an Occupy Wall Street type. Romney is more like Bruce Wayne.”

The big winner here: Dixon, who hears the cash register ring anytime Bane is used. “He’s been my own Bane Capital!” http://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/2012/07/rush-vs-batman-limbaugh-sees-l
iberal-conspiracy-in-new-movies-villain-named-bane/
think he didn't know how long ago the character of Bane was created, because now he's walking back his idiocy as fast as he can:
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On Wednesday, Limbaugh set out to clarify what he meant:
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“I never said that the villain was created by the comic book character creator to be part of the 2012 campaign,” Limbaugh said, referring to Bane, who debuted in 1993. “I never said that at all. And everybody’s out there running around, thinking I got this giant conspiracy.… I didn’t say there was a conspiracy. I said the Democrats were going to use it.”
http://kfyo.com/chads-morning-brief-rush-limbaugh-the-dark-knight-rise
s-c/

GO Rushbo! You keep us laughing, you do...

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Thursday, July 19, 2012 9:37 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Hello,

The Dark Knight Rises, a Liberal conspiracy against Romney?

Sometimes I think the real comic book character is Limbaugh.

--Anthony


Note to Self:
Raptor - woman testifying about birth control is a slut (the term fits.)
Six - Wow, isn't Niki quite the CUNT? And, yes, I spell that in all caps....
Wulf - Niki is a stupid fucking bitch who should hurry up and die.

“The stupid neither forgive nor forget; the naive forgive and forget; the wise forgive but do not forget.” -Thomas Szasz



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Thursday, July 19, 2012 9:53 AM

WHOZIT


Boy are you libs going to hate this flick, it's pure Right-Wing porn.

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Thursday, July 19, 2012 9:55 AM

BIGDAMNNOBODY


I guess Storymark has more in common with Rush than he thinks he does.

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=52535

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Thursday, July 19, 2012 10:31 AM

STORYMARK


Of course you'd think that. I was waiting for one of you wingnut morons to try to make that comparison.

You have the same mindset as Rush, and can't distinguish between a joke made at the coincidence, and a batshit crazy conspiracy theory.


Note to anyone - Please pity the poor, poor wittle Rappyboy. He's feeling put upon lately, what with all those facts disagreeing with what he believes.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Thursday, July 19, 2012 10:35 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



I've heard the Bain/ Bane stuff from other sources besides Rush. He'll talk about it, and that'll get more attention when he says it, but I don't think it originated w/ Rushbo.

Just goes to show how much influence he has over the MSM. He still gets mocked and ridiculed for that which he didn't even start.

yawn

But the irony is sorta amusing, as Bane actually emulates more of the Occupy crowd than anything for which Mitt Romney or his former company stands.


" We're all just folk. " - Mal

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Thursday, July 19, 2012 10:59 AM

BIGDAMNNOBODY


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Originally posted by Storymark:
Of course you'd think that. I was waiting for one of you wingnut morons to try to make that comparison.

You have the same mindset as Rush, and can't distinguish between a joke made at the coincidence, and a batshit crazy conspiracy theory.


You are correct sir. I should not have compared Limbaughs coincidental joke with your batshit crazy conspiracy theory.

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Thursday, July 19, 2012 12:53 PM

JONGSSTRAW


When it's all said and done Rush Limbaugh does nothing to help Republicans and Conservatives. He's just another super-rich and aloof bloviator like so many of his counterparts in the MSM. Although it is amusing how Libs fear and loathe him, he himself has influenced exactly jack squat in elections.

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Thursday, July 19, 2012 12:58 PM

STORYMARK


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Originally posted by BIGDAMNNOBODY:
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Originally posted by Storymark:
Of course you'd think that. I was waiting for one of you wingnut morons to try to make that comparison.

You have the same mindset as Rush, and can't distinguish between a joke made at the coincidence, and a batshit crazy conspiracy theory.


You are correct sir. I should not have compared Limbaughs coincidental joke with your batshit crazy conspiracy theory.



What theory did I float, now?

Oh, right, I'm expecting a wingnut to back up their words. Nevermind, I forget ya'll are incapable in that regard.


Note to anyone - Please pity the poor, poor wittle Rappyboy. He's feeling put upon lately, what with all those facts disagreeing with what he believes.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Thursday, July 19, 2012 1:01 PM

STORYMARK


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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
When it's all said and done Rush Limbaugh does nothing to help Republicans and Conservatives. He's just another super-rich and aloof bloviator like so many of his counterparts in the MSM. Although it is amusing how Libs fear and loathe him, he himself has influenced exactly jack squat in elections.



I'd say the rank ignorance that permeates much of the republican rank and file - particularly those who parrot the bullshit Rush spouts - and then vote - refutes this completely unsupported theory of yours that he has no influence.

He's got legions of hillbillies and rednecks who actually beleiev him. Shit, guys like Rappy defend anything he says, no matter what. You're not dumb enough to think that's no influence.


Note to anyone - Please pity the poor, poor wittle Rappyboy. He's feeling put upon lately, what with all those facts disagreeing with what he believes.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Thursday, July 19, 2012 1:15 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


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Originally posted by Storymark:

He's got legions of hillbillies and rednecks who actually beleiev him. Shit, guys like Rappy defend anything he says, no matter what. You're not dumb enough to think that's no influence.



First of all, I'm neither hillbilly or redneck. I've known some who are, and they're quite proud of who they are, faults and all. Well, I ain't them.

Second, I don't defend Rush at every turn. I didn't even do it here, as no 'defense' was really warranted, but the point is still made. You're wrong. Move on.


" We're all just folk. " - Mal

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Thursday, July 19, 2012 1:28 PM

JONGSSTRAW



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Thursday, July 19, 2012 2:03 PM

BIGDAMNNOBODY


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Originally posted by Storymark:
What theory did I float, now?

Oh, right, I'm expecting a wingnut to back up their words. Nevermind, I forget ya'll are incapable in that regard.


You sir, have the subtlety of a sledgehammer.
Did you not see the little winky emoticon?

Regardless, Rush continues to say stupid things. His detractors continue to detract. Some sponsors leave, others sign him up. Some consider him entertainer, others consider him the wizard behind the GOPs curtain. And ultimately, there is no such thing as bad press.

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Thursday, July 19, 2012 3:41 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


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When it's all said and done Rush Limbaugh does nothing to help Republicans and Conservatives. He's just another super-rich and aloof bloviator like so many of his counterparts in the MSM. Although it is amusing how Libs fear and loathe him, he himself has influenced exactly jack squat in elections.
I'd like to hear about how we "fear and loathe" him...personally I find him somewhat disgusting and mostly damned sad...fat old addict passing judgment on others. Ans as to him having no influence, whooo-eeee, that's a new one! If he has no influence, why have all the righties who have dared to disagree with him even SLIGHTLY immediately cow-towed to him and taken back whatever they've said that offended him? Rush himself says "I am the titular head of the Republican Party, by their own claim." ( http://img.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_071411/content/01125109.gu
est.html
])

If anyone's afraid of the guy, it's the Republicans:
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Conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh has been inundated with criticism after calling Sandra Fluke, a Georgetown University student who testified before a House committee about contraception, a “slut” and a “prostitute.” But while Democrats have fiercely condemned the comments, Republicans’ ire has been significantly more muted.

ABC’s George Will told me Sunday on “This Week” that GOP leaders have steered clear of harshly denouncing Limbaugh’s comments because “Republican leaders are afraid of Rush Limbaugh.”

“[House Speaker John] Boehner comes out and says Rush’s language was inappropriate. Using the salad fork for your entrée, that’s inappropriate. Not this stuff,” Will said. “And it was depressing because what it indicates is that the Republican leaders are afraid of Rush Limbaugh. They want to bomb Iran, but they’re afraid of Rush Limbaugh.” http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/03/george-will-republican-le
aders-are-afraid-of-rush-limbaugh/
]
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Why will Paul say the obvious while Romney, Santorum and Gingrich are barely willing to clear their throats? Because Paul, who is in this campaign to spread the gospels of libertarianism and Austrian economics, knows he can’t win the Republican nomination. The others, who think they do have a chance to win, are afraid of making Limbaugh into an enemy — or, in Romney’s case, into more of an enemy than he already is.

So let’s get this straight: These guys want us to believe they’re ready to face down Vladimir Putin, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Kim Jong Eun, the Taliban and what’s left of al-Qaeda. Yet they’re so scared of a talk-radio buffoon that they ignore or excuse an eruption of venom that some of Limbaugh’s advertisers find inexcusable.

I would have thought that crass political calculation might lead the would-be GOP nominees to the correct position on Limbaugh’s rhetorical depravity. Women constitute a majority of voters. If they merely lean toward the Democrats this fall, as they usually do, Republicans still have a mathematical chance to win the presidency by racking up a big majority among men. But if the GOP is perceived to endorse Limbaugh’s hateful rhetoric about “feminazis” and his stance of male grievance, female voters could turn what looked like a winnable election for Republicans into a debacle.

But Romney, Santorum and Gingrich are so frightened of being labeled insufficiently conservative — in this context, meaning “not nice enough to Rush” — that when given the opportunity to show some backbone, they go all wobbly. http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/rush-limbaugh-too-fearsome-for-
gop-candidates-to-cross/2012/03/05/gIQAb5JZtR_story.html

It's happened over and over; the minute a well-known Republican says ANYTHING even slightly negative about Rushbo, within a day or two they walk it back. Go ahead and Google "Rush Limbaugh not head of Republican Party" or "Republicans don't fear Rush Limbaugh"...see if anything comes up.

So who's afraid of the big bad Rush?


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Thursday, July 19, 2012 3:46 PM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Hello,

I'm not a liberal (according to my most recent political positioning quiz), and I don't fear him, but I freely admit to loathing him. I am surprised that anyone can listen to him for any length of time without beginning to develop a negative attitude towards what he is saying and how he is saying it.

--Anthony


Note to Self:
Raptor - woman testifying about birth control is a slut (the term fits.)
Six - Wow, isn't Niki quite the CUNT? And, yes, I spell that in all caps....
Wulf - Niki is a stupid fucking bitch who should hurry up and die.

“The stupid neither forgive nor forget; the naive forgive and forget; the wise forgive but do not forget.” -Thomas Szasz



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Monday, July 23, 2012 1:36 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


I find him tiresome because he thinks he's so clever ... and he's totally not.

I have Kathy Bates on speed dial, mwa ha ha ha (in exaggeratedly evil voice)

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya.

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Monday, July 23, 2012 2:56 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Let's see ... Rush is stupid, a fat, butt-fucking addict, misogynistic, racist - what's NOT for ZIT and little Rappy to like!


SignyM: I swear, if we really knew what was being decided about us in our absence, and how hosed the government is prepared to let us be, we would string them up.

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Monday, July 23, 2012 3:50 PM

CHRISISALL


Rush is an important part of the mindless uneducated and fear soaked American culture!

Chrisisall, wearing a frilly Mal thing on his head, and ready to shoot unarmed, full-body armoured Operatives

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Monday, July 23, 2012 4:19 PM

HERO


Liberal bloggers started talking up the Bane-Bain business a couple weeks ago and it built from there as the movie premier got closer. Limbaugh was probably reacting to last weeks Drudge links to newspaper articles citing liberal saying stuff like "movies reflect our times".

I note for the record that Batman had always been a conservative character. Billionaire philanthropist and businessman orced to act on his own to make up for big government's failures.

H

Hero...must be right on all of this. ALL of the rest of us are wrong. Chrisisall, 2012

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Monday, July 23, 2012 4:43 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


“The villain in “The Dark Knight Rises” is named Bane, B-a-n-e. What is the name of the venture capital firm that Romney ran and around which there’s now this make-believe controversy? Bain. The movie has been in the works for a long time. The release date’s been known, summer 2012 for a long time. Do you think that it is accidental that the name of the really vicious fire breathing four eyed whatever it is villain in this movie is named Bane?”


SignyM: I swear, if we really knew what was being decided about us in our absence, and how hosed the government is prepared to let us be, we would string them up.

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Monday, July 23, 2012 5:09 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Stop pickin on little jew "Rush" and his jew wife and jew rabbi he takes on vacation to jew Israel, and his itty bitty billion-dollar jew paycheck from his employer Willard Mitt Romney from planet Kolob.

The Rich Flemball Show
http://radio.indymedia.org/en/node/9718
http://prn.fm/hosts/comedy-hosts/lee-papa/#axzz21VOp5BEd
http://www.emeetforsteep.info/women-who-want-sex-in-white-house-tn


"Government control of Communications and Transportation."
—Jewish Commie Manifesto, 6th Plank

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Monday, July 23, 2012 8:01 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


You seem to be stuck on 'Jew' lately, like it's the worst insult you can think of. But this endless repetition of 'Jew' over the various threads is rather lame, like the guy who told Cyrano "Sir, you have a very big nose!"

Think of all the things you could have said if you had the wit and took your meds:

Young man, I am afraid your speech was a trifle short. You could have said at least one hundred other things, varying the tone of your words. Let me give you some examples.
In an aggressive tone: "Sir, if I had a nose like that, I would amputate it!"
Friendly: "When you drink from a cup your nose must get wet. Why don't you drink from a bowl?"
Descriptive: "Tis a rock! A peak! A cape! No, it's a peninsula!"
Curious: "What is that large container for? To hold your pens and ink?"
Gracious: "How kind you are. You love the little birds so much you have given them a perch to roost upon."
Truculent: "When you light your pipe and puff smoke from your nose the neighbors must think the chimney's afire."
Considerate: "Be careful when you bow your head or you might lose your balance and fall over."
Thoughtful: "Place an umbrella over your nose to keep its color from fading in the sun."
Arcane: "Sir, only the beast that Aristophanes calls the hippocampelephantocamelos could have had such a solid lump of flesh and bone below its forehead."
Cavalier: "A hook to hang your hat upon."
Emphatic: "No breeze, O majestic nose, can give thee cold - save when the north winds blow."
Dramatic: "When it bleeds, it must be like the Red Sea."
Admiring: "What a fine sign for a perfume shop!"
Lyrical: "Is that a conch shell? And are you Triton risen from the ocean?"
Naïve: "Is that monument open to the public?"
Rustic: "That don't look like a nose. It's either a big cucumber or a little watermelon."
Military: "The enemy is charging! Aim your cannon!"
Practical: "A nose like that has one advantage: it keeps your feet dry in the rain."
There, sir, now you have an inkling of what you might have said, had you been a witty man of letters. Unfortunately, you're totally witless and a man of very few letters: only four that spell the word "fool." But even if you had the skill to invent such remarks, you would not have been able to entertain me with them. You would have uttered no more than a quarter of such a jest, the first syllable of the first word, for such jesting is a privilege I only grant myself.


SignyM: I swear, if we really knew what was being decided about us in our absence, and how hosed the government is prepared to let us be, we would string them up.

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Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:27 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Let's see ... Rush is stupid, a fat, butt-fucking addict, misogynistic, racist - what's NOT for ZIT and little Rappy to like!



The fact that Rush is none of those things is why I happen to listen.


" We're all just folk. " - Mal

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:41 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Rush isn't FAT? Wow. I'd hate to see someone you DO think is fat.

And ya gotta watch out for those cameras, they always add at least an extra 75 pounds.



AND - I have another tidbit to add to RapFacts™!



SignyM: I swear, if we really knew what was being decided about us in our absence, and how hosed the government is prepared to let us be, we would string them up.

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Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:56 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Well, I never said he was trim, or the picture of fitness. But it's good to know how shallow you are, 1kiki. And that you place being 'fat' on par w/ being misogynistic, racist and all around a bad person.



So, your thoughts on this guy ?


" We're all just folk. " - Mal

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:58 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Let's see ... Rush is stupid, a fat, butt-fucking addict, misogynistic, racist - what's NOT for ZIT and little Rappy to like!



The fact that Rush is none of those things is why I happen to listen. --- Little Rappy really DID post this!



SignyM: I swear, if we really knew what was being decided about us in our absence, and how hosed the government is prepared to let us be, we would string them up.

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Tuesday, July 24, 2012 2:06 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Let's see ... Rush is stupid, a fat, butt-fucking addict, misogynistic, racist - what's NOT for ZIT and little Rappy to like!


The fact that Rush is none of those things is why I happen to listen. --- Little Rappy really DID post this!



How exactly do you know that Rush is addicted to butt-fucking ? Personal experience ?


" We're all just folk. " - Mal

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Tuesday, July 24, 2012 2:53 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


You need to work on your grammar. Commas are there for a reason.

So, out of curiosity, along with claiming Rush isn't fat, do you also claim he's not an addict?


SignyM: I swear, if we really knew what was being decided about us in our absence, and how hosed the government is prepared to let us be, we would string them up.

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Tuesday, July 24, 2012 3:44 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


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Rush is an important part of the mindless uneducated and fear soaked American culture!
That covers it in a nutshell. Rush is fully aware of this, as are--again--all THINKING people. He does what he does for shock value to garner an audience, he knows this and so do we. Raptor and his ilk choose not to think, but to swallow. Simple as that.

As to him being "none of those things", let's see. "Rush is stupid, a fat, butt-fucking addict, misogynistic, racist". Well, he's not stupid, he's "stupid like a fox"--he does his job and does it excellently: saying things any thinking person recognizes as stupid in order to gin up the base. He's unquestionably fat to an unhealthy degree--using Michael Moore is just the old, irrelevant "I'm rubber, you're glue" tactic and means absolutely nothing. The "butt-fucking" is just an obscenity, unless you have proof. Everyone knows he's an addict, he's admitted it himself. Nobody but a misogynist would respond to the contraceptive argument the ways he did--if he's not a misogynist himself, he's behaving like one, yet again to play to the base. Same with racist; if he's not one himself, he's certainly using racism in his act. We have only to quote him to know that: Limbaugh has said things liike Steinbrenner Was A “Cracker Who Made African-Americans Millionaires”; "Obama & Oprah Are Only Successful Because They’re Black"; Gov. Paterson is A “Massa”; Obama is “Uppity”; Kennedy “Had Negroes Serve Him Booze”; and on and on, ad infinitum. Ergo, he either is these things himself, or he's PLAYING them to appeal to those who are. Raptor and his ilk taking him seriously should be quite embarrassing to them, as a result, unless they are those things too.

What I found interesting is that Raptor admitted to listening to him. So we now know where he gets his talking points and why he believes what he does. We always knew that, of course, but it's nice that he's now admitted it.


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Tuesday, July 24, 2012 8:54 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
You need to work on your grammar. Commas are there for a reason.

So, out of curiosity, along with claiming Rush isn't fat, do you also claim he's not an addict?



Is Rush addicted right now to pain pills ? How the hell should I know ? And what do I care ? Are you claiming you know for a FACT that he's physically or chemically dependent on any drugs at this time? Seems you think you have some inside information. Care to share w/ the rest of us ?

Yeah, the commas comment can't save ya here on this one. Nice try.

And Niki, I never denied listening to Rush. I listen to his show, and a host of other talk radio shows, from Dennis Miller, Laura Ingraham, Neal Boortz, Glenn Beck, Dennis Prager, Michael Medved, and others. Oh, and I listen to sports talk radio too. Gonna condemn me for that too ?

Good grief.

I get my info from lots of sources, but you're wrong to when you say that's why " he believes what he does ". I listen to them BECAUSE I already thought like, unlike you, who listens or watches what ever it is you do, in order to be told what to think.



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Tuesday, July 24, 2012 9:09 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


One doesn't need any inside information; Rush Limbaugh is an addict. Once an addict, or an alcoholic, one never becoms NOT an alcoholic or addict. Ask any alcoholic He may well be a "non-using" addict, for that one WOULD need inside information, but one doesn't suddenly become not an alcoholic or not an addict simply because one is not using. "He admitted to listeners on his radio show on October 10, 2003, that he was addicted to prescription painkillers and stated that he would enter inpatient treatment for 30 days, immediately after the broadcast." He admitted being an addict; so he's still an addict. End of story. Here, maybe this will help:
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Almost all who study and work in this field say there is no cure for drug addiction.

think one way to approach this is to review a definition of alcohol/or drug addiction. Although there are many signs and symptoms, there is one that is common to all alcoholics and drug addicts—and that is loss of control. At some point a person will lose the ability to control their use. Whether they are daily users or binge users, the common thread is—once they start using they cannot control how much or when to stop.

So if we can agree on that point we can go on to a discussion about cure. To me a cure means a reversal, or absence of the problem or disease. In the case of addiction to substances I, in the past thirty-three years, have never seen an addict regain control of their use—to become a social-occasional user.

So I believe that if I were to tell someone they are cured, they may think they no longer have a problem. That opens the door to another attempt at social use—which NEVER turns out well.

The way I explain it to people is to think of it like cancer. There is no cure for cancer but cancer often goes into remission after treatment. It does not mean they have been cured or that a cure has taken place. It’s still there but it’s in remission.

Personally, I have not used anything since 1977—but I’m not cured. My disease is in remission. If I were to choose to try to drink occasionally or socially I would bring my disease out of remission and very soon it would again cause lots of problems.


Get it? The truth is, alcoholism and other addictions are more like a chronic disease that can be held in remission indefinitely if the right steps are taken, but it cannot be cured in that you must remain aware of your vulnerabilities as well as environment cues that could set you up for relapse. Rush Limbaugh is an addict, and always will be, whether he ever touches drugs again or not.


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Tuesday, July 24, 2012 9:35 AM

AURAPTOR

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So Niki, is being an addict, 'butt-fucking' or otherwise, a personal failing, in your view ? Is it a sign of a mental defect ? Or a focal point of derogatory scorn or ridicule ?

You'll probably say " no", that ANYONE can be an addict, or some such. But in Rush's case, he's a bad person for becoming addicted, or what ever, huh?


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Tuesday, July 24, 2012 9:51 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


As to "I listen to them BECAUSE I already thought like, unlike you, who listens or watches what ever it is you do, in order to be told what to think", I don't know what that means...you already thought like? I assume that means you already thought like Rush and the others. In other words, you are listening to only those who reinforce what you already believe.

Nobody "tells" me what to think. I don't listen to talk radio--I did once, but when I realized that it's mostly for shock value and over the top on both sides, I stopped. I watch any number of TV stations, but when I hear something think is interesting, I look it up on the internet, read articles about it from other sources...including sources which are diametrically opposed...then make up my own mind.

As to who you listen to...whoo, ee! After looking them up, it's pretty clear you only listen to those who are very conservative and who echo what you already believe!

Let's see: Dennis Miller. Conservative who calls himself libertarian.
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During the late 1980s and continuing through the 1990s, Miller was generally perceived as a cynic on the left, ever eager to bash conservative Republicans. This perception did not change much even when Miller told USA Today in 1995: "I might be profane and opinionated, but underneath all that are some pretty conservative feelings. On most issues, between Clinton and Newt Gingrich, I'd choose Newt in a second, even though he is a bit too exclusionary."[42] Miller also declared himself a "conservative libertarian" in a 1996 Playboy interview.[42]

He became one of the Hollywood celebrities backing George W. Bush and the war in Iraq.Miller endorsed Herman Cain in the 2012 presidential election, but later dropped his support, saying of Cain, “he can’t win!”


Laura Ingram...they don't come more conservative. If you need cites on that, there are zillions. Wiki alone start out "Laura Anne Ingraham (born June 19, 1964) is an American radio host, author, and conservative political commentator."

Neal Boortz. Knew absolutely nothing about him, so looked him up. Wow. VERY conservative!
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He has stated that he is a libertarian,[25][26] however, some feel his views are more in line with "republitarian" philosophy that embraces incrementalism domestically,[19] and a generally interventionist foreign policy based on self-interest, national defense and the expansion of freedom.[27] Neal disagrees with the Libertarian Party platform on several key issues including his firm support of the war in Iraq,[27] incremental tax reform,[19] and his opposition to the unrestricted immigration policy advocated by the Libertarian Party.

He has repeatedly stated his belief that global climate change is not man-made. His stances on many of these issues make him popular among conservative Republicans, who, due to their larger numbers in comparison to Libertarians, make up the majority of his listeners and callers.[ Boortz tends to advocate Conservative platforms. Boortz's post-9/11 politics include support for the US-led War on Terror, a more aggressive foreign policy,[27] and the USA Patriot Act. Boortz is also strongly in favor of a crackdown on illegal immigration. These views occasionally put him in conflict with the Libertarian Party.


Jezus, just the fact that you LISTEN to Glenn Beck is enough to make me pity you and wonder about your ability to reason! They don't COME any more conservative--and bat-shit crazy.

Dennis Prager. Never heard of HIM either, so I looked him up:
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Dennis Prager (born August 2, 1948) is an American syndicated radio talk show host, syndicated columnist, author, and public speaker. He is noted for his conservative political and social views emanating from conservative Judeo-Christian values. He holds that there is an "American Trinity" of essential principles, which he lists as E Pluribus Unum, In God We Trust, and Liberty.

'Nother one. By the way, I don't just go to Wikipedia; I google them, get an idea what the general consensus is, go to Wiki and see if it matches, because it is usually the most concise description, IF it is accurate.

So. Onward.

Michael Medved. Conservative--to the point of being an Intelligent Design believer.
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While focusing on the theme of Hollywood vs. America, radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh interviewed Medved and then asked Medved to guest-host his talk show. Medved went on to serve as a regular guest-host for Limbaugh on close to 30 occasions.

In November 2007, Medved became a senior fellow at the Discovery Institute, hub of the intelligent design movement


Omygawd. Say no more.

So in other words, you listen EXCLUSIVELY to conservative talk radio, some of whom claim to be libertarian but whose views and stances are obviously conservative. No wonder you think like you do! Repeat a mantra enough times to a listener, they buy it!

Well, now we know where you come from, why you think like you do, and why you are so adamantly misinformed and prejudiced.

As to MY reading/watching habits:

CNN and MSNBC, as I've mentioned before. Yes, I know MSNBC is terribly liberal, but I don't necessarily buy what they say (some more than others, definitely!) and I check it out for myself. I've written a few scathing notes to Rachel Maddow for how she's slanted things, and I avoid both the Ed Show and Rev what's-his-name like they were poison!

Occasionally I watch local news, VERY rarely network news. I try to catch Face the Nation and Meet the Press when I can. Oh, and fairly religiously, Colbert and Stewart. They make me laugh. Laughing is good, especially these days!

My reading is largely on the internet...most frequented sites include Time, Fiscal Times, Christian Science Monitor (they are actually quite good, to my surprise!), New Scientist, BBC news, CNN, Yahoo News, Politifact (tho' I do NOT always agree with them!), Talking Points Memo (can't find them described as liberal or conservative), and other sites I find by Googling.

I NEVER watch Young Turks or any of their videos which might show up in a search; nor do I read or quote HuffPost unless what they write conforms to enough other things I've found and they covered it best.

So who's being told what to think??? And/or choosing to mostly listen to those who will reaffirm what they already believe?


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Tuesday, July 24, 2012 9:53 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Oops, apologies.

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Tuesday, July 24, 2012 10:14 AM

BIGDAMNNOBODY


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Originally posted by Niki2:
So who's being told what to think??? And/or choosing to mostly listen to those who will reaffirm what they already believe?


It couldn't possibly be the person who does not listen to Rush or know who any of the other conservative personalities are.

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Tuesday, July 24, 2012 10:20 AM

AURAPTOR

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You had a very lengthy double post, Niki. Just an FYI.

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As to who you listen to...whoo, ee! After looking them up, it's pretty clear you only listen to those who are very conservative and who echo what you already believe!


Well, they are conservative, for the most part. And there are others out there, who I'll listen to, but each is different and offer different entertainment value, imo.

Dennis Prager and Michael Medved are both Jewish. Laura Ingraham is Catholic. Glenn Beck is Mormon, I believe. I'm a non believer, yet I still listen to these folks, because I have a mind of my own, and even if we disagree on certain things, I still find them to be reasonable and well informed, on most matters, mainly when it comes to their views on govt.

I find it humorous that you think you KNOW who these folks are, from reading a bio on Wikipedia, or googling them, and reading a 'consensus' of what others say about them, w/ out having heard 1 minute of their shows.

I also find it odd that you ( or the sources you cut / pasted from ) believe that conservative libertarians and Republicans can't have common points of view, and that anyone claiming to be the former could possibly also agree w/ the latter ( shocker! ). It's almost as if you ( or your source ) claim that these folks calling themselves libertarians are really " Republicans " in disguise, as if that alone is enough to discredit them or their points of view. Neal Boortz and Michael Medved both were liberal Dems in the 60's. But they got better. ( Holy Grail reference )

But from my perspective, being libertarian IS being a conservative, and vice versa. One explains and defines the other.

And I do listen to other things besides conservative talk radio ( as I clearly stated above ). But I've also stomached Randi Rhodes, for brief moments that I can stand to listen to that idiot. When AirAmerica was on, ( meaning when it was stealing from children's fund raisers and not paying its employees for healthcare ) I tried to listen to Al Franken and a few others. I felt my IQ dropping with each passing moment. Thankfully, that garbage was taken off the air, and order was restored back to nature.

Seems I know more Liberal talk show personalities than you know on the Right, either t.v. OR radio. Huh.





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Tuesday, July 24, 2012 10:44 AM

NIKI2

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Why would I? I try to avoid obviously-left-leaning sources, so why would I attend to VERY obviously-right-leaning sources? You obviously don't get the point; I don't WANT to listen to hard-core righties OR lefties.

The only source I watch which echoes my own, freely-admitted, left leaning is MSNBC, and I watch them mostly for amusement (I get straighter stuff from Jon Stewart most of the time!). Yeah, I give in to the enjoyment of seeing the right pilloried, but I don't TRUST them...and when Chris Matthews gets on a roll, interrupting his own guests, it makes me giggle...then I have to change stations pretty quick or I'd throw something at the TV!

Other than them, tho', I try to stay away from obviously slanted sources. I don't want to get my "facts" (I use the term VERY loosely, considering Beck and Limbaugh and Ingram!) from as unbaised sources as possible...I want NEWS, not propaganada, unlike Raptor and apparently you.

So why would I have any interest in conservative talk radio? Like I said, I used to lisen to it long ago, and I listened to Laura Ingram, by the way. At first because she seemed to give good advice, but the more I listened, the more sick to my stomach I got. I tried listening to some left-wing talk radio, but it made me ill as well, so I stopped completely.

Yup, here it is explained:
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The United States saw dramatic growth in the popularity of talk radio during the 1990s due to the repeal of the Federal Communications Commission's post-war Fairness Doctrine of 1949, in 1987. The mandate of the Fairness Doctrine was to require that audiences were exposed to a diversity of viewpoints. It had required the holders of broadcast licenses to "present controversial issues of public importance" and to do so in a manner that was, in the Commission's view, "honest, equitable and balanced". Its repeal provided an opportunity for a kind of partisan political programming with commercial appeal that had not previously existed.

Pew researchers found in 2004 that 17% of the public regularly listens to talk radio. This audience is mostly male, middle-aged and conservative. Among those who regularly listen to talk radio, 41% are Republican and 28% are Democrats. Furthermore, 45% describe themselves as conservatives, compared with 18% who say they are liberals.[2]

The most successful pioneer in the 1990s' talk radio movement in the US was the politically conservative commentator Rush Limbaugh. Limbaugh's success demonstrated that there was a nationwide market for passionately delivered conservative commentary on contemporary news, events, and social trends, and changed the face of how the talk radio business was conducted.

Limbaugh's unprecedented success is illustrated by Fresno, California's then number-one radio station, KMJ "news-talk radio," a typical example of how the talk radio format was changed nation wide. Before Limbaugh, their day time talk show hosts were local and not particularly partisan, each quite a bit different from the other, and had diverse conversations on a wide variety of topics from both local and national politics, to food, to interviews with interesting people, book authors, and so forth. There was a local morning host plus a local afternoon host. The evenings (with less advertising revenue) typically included nationally syndicated hosts such as family finance pundit Bruce Williams. KMJ, seeking to cut corners, brought in Limbaugh at 09:00 from New York and within three months had become wildly popular among Fresno's conservatives. The station presented news from 6 to 9, Limbaugh from 9 to noon, then news, then the local Ray Appleton, a moderate Democrat from 1 to 4. Stations across the nation soon discovered that less diverse programming sold even better, and Appleton became a Republican and KMJ along with most talk radio across the nation became all-conservative. As of 2011, KMJ has filled the afternoon slot with various other nationally syndicated conservative political shows, and Appleton does his conservative show during the lunch hour.

Other radio talk show hosts (who describe themselves as either conservative or libertarian) have also had success as nationally syndicated hosts, including Hugh Hewitt, Sean Hannity, Jon Arthur, Glenn Beck, Michael Medved, Laura Ingraham, Neal Boortz, Michael Savage, Bill O'Reilly, and Mark Levin.

The Salem Radio Network syndicates a group of religiously oriented Republican activists, including evangelical Christian Hugh Hewitt and Jewish conservatives Dennis Prager and Michael Medved; these are mostly distributed in a 24-hour network format among Salem's own stations, and they generally earn ratings much less than their syndicated counterparts.

In the summer of 2007, conservative talk show hosts mobilized public opposition to the McCain-Kennedy immigration reform bill, which eventually failed.[3] Conservative hosts Limbaugh, Ingraham, Bennett, Prager, Hannity, Beck, Levin and Hewitt coalesced around endorsing former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney for president at the end of January 2008 (after Fred Thompson, the described favorite of some of the hosts, dropped out), in an effort to oppose the nomination of Sen. John McCain;[4] however, Romney suspended his campaign in February of the same year, and endorsed McCain. During the primaries, Limbaugh in particular had endorsed a plan to do whatever it took to prolong the Democrats' nomination by encouraging political conservatives to cross over to the Democrats and voting for the trailing candidate, a plan he calls "Operation Chaos". Conservative talk show hosts also lent their unified support for Congressional candidate Doug Hoffman, a conservative third-party candidate who was running in New York's 23rd congressional district special election, 2009 against a liberal Republican (Dierdre Scozzafava) and a mainstream Democrat (Bill Owens). The unified support from the conservative base helped propel Hoffman to frontrunner status and effectively killed Scozzafava's campaign, forcing her to drop out of the race several days before the election. This effort backfired on the conservative hosts, as the Democratic candidate Owens won in part thanks to Scozzafava's endorsement of Owens. Local hosts, such as Los Angeles's John and Ken, have also proven effective in influencing the political landscape.

Well, there are all of Raptor's buddies--by the way, if he'd said O'Reilly I have had a BIT more respect for him...at least O'Reilly is SMART, and admits he's a rodeo clown and anyone who takes him seriously is a fool.

That's about it, I stopped listening around the time they mentioned and switched to just music and one wonderful station I found late at night while I was driving home from work that did "old-time radio", mystery, etc.

Why on earth would I want to listen to the kind of talk radio we now have? It doesn't give me facts, it gives me partisan propaganda and little else. The only radio station I listen to, in my car, is a CBS station that does straight news with no commentary, with traffic and weather every ten minutes. Beyond that, I have no use for radio since my old favorite station from the '60s got bought up. Mostly I use the CD in the car.

Sorry, but your snark is irrelevant. I get my news from a VARIETY of sources, as impartial as I can find, and avoid the obvious idiocy of purely partisan bullshit. Of course I wouldn't know some of those people...I also probably wouldn't recognize the names of ANY of the lefty talk radio hosts. I'll check.

Let's see, according to Wiki:
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Ed Schultz, Stephanie Miller, Thom Hartmann, and Bill Press; The Young Turks; Fox News host Alan Colmes, First Amendment Radio Network Libertarian host Jon Arthur, self-distributed Norman Goldman and Mike Malloy, and Premiere's Randi Rhodes. In some markets, local liberal hosts have existed for years, such as the British talk host Michael Jackson (who was on the air at KABC in Los Angeles beginning in 1968 and is currently at KGIL); Bernie Ward in San Francisco; Jack Ellery in New Jersey and Tampa; Dave Ross in Seattle, and Marc Germain in Los Angeles. A few earlier syndicated programs were hosted by prominent Democrats who were not experienced broadcasters, such as Jim Hightower, Jerry Brown, Mario Cuomo and Alan Dershowitz; these met with limited success.
Of course I knew Gov. Moonbeam, Mario Cuomo and Alan Derschowitz, but never listened to them. I know Ed Schulz and the Young Turks, but avoid both like the plague. I recognize the names of Stephanie Miller, Alan Colmes, Bernie Ward and Dave Ross, but I don't know anything about them. The others are completely strange to me. So I know even less about liberal talk radio than I do about conservative talk radio. And I've never listened to either.

You're right, you are a Big Damn Nobody.


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Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:13 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Sheet. Unbelievable. By the numbers:

Raptor, why would what religion people are have anything to do with whether you listen to/agree with them or not? Religion and politics don't necessary reflect one another...except for evangelicals, that is. If you're non-denominational, why would it matter to you what religion they are? I wouldn't know or care, myself, and if you think that shows some kind of open mindedness, it doesn't; they're all politically conservative, THAT'S what matters.

Again: WHY would I listen to either conservative or liberal talk radio?? As above, they're all biased, so what good does that do me? By the way, the ONLY source I cited was Wiki...I looked around for info, then read Wiki and where it seemed to agree, was less partisan/snarky and the most concise, so I quoted relevant parts of it because it showed me all you pay attention to is conservative sources.

How can YOU say those you listen to are "reasonable and well informed" if they're the only ones you listen to?? You said you also listen to (watch? read?) others, but haven't enumerated any of them, so thus far all I see is you breathing in what conservative talk radio (the LEAST well-informed source I can think of) breathes into YOU.

Where exactly did I say I "believe that conservative libertarians and Republicans can't have common points of view, and that anyone claiming to be the former could possibly also agree w/ the latter"? Don't put words in my mouth, if you please. I QUOTED Wiki and in some places it indicated that some who say they are libertarian are at odds with other libertarians and considered Republican or conservative by some. It's not my opinion. And I never said anything about their being Republican discredits their point of view. The things that discredit most of these people is that they are talk radio, if you want to know. My experience with talk radio is that it's...well, I've already explained that, and now I know why (the Fairness Doctrine having been overturned). Audience share is increased by being partisan...the more partisan it sounds, the more audience share (Limbaugh being the perfect example). I don't WANT to listen to partisan anything, I want to make up my OWN mind from as many facts as I can glean or sift out.

It's funnier than hell that you say you've "stomached" one liberal talk host and felt your IQ dropping listening to Al Franken (tho' the latter wouldn't surprise me!). In other words, you can only "stomach" to listen to conservatives, you won't listen to liberals or give them any credence, yet you accuse ME of discrediting "the other side"??? Bet you don't even see the hypocrisy in that. You're a hard-core conservative, you only credit what conservatives say and you can't stomach liberals. Of course I would be surprised if ANYONE could stomach talk-show liberals, OR conservatives, for reasons I've clearly elucidated. Both are sheer propaganda and little else. But your choices aren't any I could stomach, left OR right, and only getting "news" from the right? That's sad beyond words.

I can only imagine (with great effort) how much reality you've missed out on, how many facts you are unaware of, how misinformed you are, if all you take in is from one side. I'm guessing you make no effort to find neutral sources, which means your mind is totally closed and so MUCH never gets through. I shudder to think...but it certainly explains you fully to me, and why you write the absurd, over-the-top propaganda you do. This has been educational; previously I couldn't for the life of me figure out where you got the ideas you regurgitate here. Now I know, and understand.

By the way, if you think libertarianism is conservativism, boy, have you got a rude shock coming down the line!

Basically, you have missed the entire point:
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Seems I know more Liberal talk show personalities than you know on the Right, either t.v. OR radio. Huh.
The point is, I don't WANT to know liberal OR conservative personalities, talk show or otherwise; I want people who will give me as little partisan propaganda as possible, so I can try to ferret out the facts. That's why the sources I MOST OFTEN (not always and certainly not exclusively) go to are as neutral as I can find, and why I avoid obviously left-wing partisan sources like the Young Turks and Huffpost like the plague. Are you capable of understanding the difference? Probably not; probably to you the ONLY valid sources are those which are partisan...in your case, conservative...and the only ones worth paying attention to. Further information on how you think, which I will also keep in mind--not that I needed to, I already fully well knew that.


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Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:06 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Niki - facts and reality are the world I live in. Been dealing w/ nut jobs on the internet since well before the y2k scam.

( And yes, before anyone jumps in... there WAS a scam. Folks trying to spin the news or stir up irrational fears, all for recruiting more religious followers, or selling survival gear, as well as a long list of other reasons ... )

It was this ignorance I dealt with, time and time again, where folks claimed they knew " the truth ", because of something they THOUGHT they heard, on the internet, radio, t.v. news.

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I can only imagine (with great effort) how much reality you've missed out on, how many facts you are unaware of, how misinformed you are, if all you take in is from one side


You're assuming that I ONLY take info from 'one' side.

I take note, when I hear something, which conflicts from what I've heard before. It's as Neal Boortz tells his listeners, time and time again...

Don't believe anything I say, UNLESS it is consistent with what you already know to be true, or you've taken the time to verify it for yourself.

He says that because, unlike so many other radio talk hosts, he does like to B.S. his audience, out of a malicious senses of humor, from time to time. Most folks don't pick up on that, and I'm almost certain that the clowns at Media Matters don't share his sense of humor.


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Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:16 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


"take note, when I hear something, which conflicts from what I've heard before." How will you ever hear something which conflicts with what you've heard before, if you're only listening ton conservative sources?? Dichotomy there...you never mentioned ONE neutral or liberal source, so...

"UNLESS it is consistent with what you already know to be true"--that caveat kinda nullifies the whole thing. If you already BELIEVE stuff, of course it would be consistent with what you already believe...and how can you tell what's true if you hear the same thing from all your various "sources"?

Sorry, that's a good sentiment, but I don't think too many follow it. And I can't keep doing this, I gotta get outta here. Enjoy.


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Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:05 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
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Originally posted by Storymark:

He's got legions of hillbillies and rednecks who actually beleiev him. Shit, guys like Rappy defend anything he says, no matter what. You're not dumb enough to think that's no influence.



First of all, I'm neither hillbilly or redneck. I've known some who are, and they're quite proud of who they are, faults and all. Well, I ain't them.




I can practically hear the banjo music while I'm reading your drivel. You "ain't" them? Shit-dang, Jim-Bob - you shore you ain't them?

What makes you think you're not hillbilly or redneck? Is it because you've still got both your teeth?

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Second, I don't defend Rush at every turn.




Riiiiiight. Keep telling yourself that.



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"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy

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Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:10 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by Hero:
Liberal bloggers started talking up the Bane-Bain business a couple weeks ago and it built from there as the movie premier got closer. Limbaugh was probably reacting to last weeks Drudge links to newspaper articles citing liberal saying stuff like "movies reflect our times".

I note for the record that Batman had always been a conservative character. Billionaire philanthropist and businessman orced to act on his own to make up for big government's failures.




Yup, Batman is clearly a Republican. That would also explain why he's so into wearing tights and hanging out with young boys.



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero


"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy

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Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:20 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by AURaptor:

So Niki, is being an addict, 'butt-fucking' or otherwise, a personal failing, in your view ? Is it a sign of a mental defect ? Or a focal point of derogatory scorn or ridicule ?

You'll probably say " no", that ANYONE can be an addict, or some such. But in Rush's case, he's a bad person for becoming addicted, or what ever, huh?






In blunt terms, YES, addiction is a personal failing. It's a disease, but it's one you can choose to suffer from or give in to.


And yes, once an addict, always an addict. You can be a junkie who hasn't used in 20 years, but you're still a junkie.


And according to Rush, addicts belong in jail for their crimes. How much time did he do for his?



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero


"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy

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Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:25 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by AURaptor:

And I do listen to other things besides conservative talk radio ( as I clearly stated above ). But I've also stomached Randi Rhodes, for brief moments that I can stand to listen to that idiot. When AirAmerica was on, ( meaning when it was stealing from children's fund raisers and not paying its employees for healthcare ) I tried to listen to Al Franken and a few others. I felt my IQ dropping with each passing moment. Thankfully, that garbage was taken off the air, and order was restored back to nature.



And I quote...

"I find it humorous that you think you KNOW who these folks are..."

And congrats on patting yourself on the back for knowing the names of as many as TWO of the people who were on Air America a decade ago. Wow, you really know your progressives, don't you?



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero


"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy

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Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:29 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by Niki2:
"take note, when I hear something, which conflicts from what I've heard before." How will you ever hear something which conflicts with what you've heard before, if you're only listening ton conservative sources?? Dichotomy there...you never mentioned ONE neutral or liberal source, so...

"UNLESS it is consistent with what you already know to be true"--that caveat kinda nullifies the whole thing. If you already BELIEVE stuff, of course it would be consistent with what you already believe...and how can you tell what's true if you hear the same thing from all your various "sources"?

Sorry, that's a good sentiment, but I don't think too many follow it. And I can't keep doing this, I gotta get outta here. Enjoy.






What Rappy just said was that he only listens and pays attention to sources that completely agree with the sources he agrees with. He's trying to work his way up to one of those Mitt Romney "I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an America that's the America millions of Americans believe in"* moment.



*Actual direct Romney quote from January 2012. Seriously, he really said that.




"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero


"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy

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Tuesday, July 24, 2012 2:34 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
he does like to B.S. his audience
" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall



" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Tuesday, July 24, 2012 9:38 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


"Second, I don't defend Rush at every turn."

Never? Then what's this? "The fact that Rush is NONE of those things is why I happen to listen." Did you just breeze past 'fat' and 'addict' in your hurry to absolve him of all fault? To in fact defend him at EVERY turn?

You're SO easy to set up.


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Wednesday, July 25, 2012 2:14 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Sigh...my apologies guys. I had a brain fart yesterday, and ended up attempting to engage Raptor in a couple of threads. I know, I know, but I'm only human. I managed to drag myself away and come back today and damn, brain's on straight again and I look at all this and...well, I'm ashamed. There I was, treating him like a thinking human being and trying to COMMUNICATE with him, of all things.

Then this morning I'm reminded that it doesn't matter WHAT I write, he'll go right on being as bat-shit crazy as ever. Again with the "messiah" bit, again with the "I am but what are you?" bullshit, yada, yada, yada. In my delirium yesterday, I hallucinated that, if he only listens to conservatives, it explains why he is he way he is. It helps, yes, but now I can't help questioning his intelligence, to boot. I used to think he was just spamming, but given what I've learned, I'm starting to think he's actually one of the not-too-bright right wingers who wraps himself in the very worst the talk-radio propagandists (who actually ARE smart and know what game they're playing, unlike Raptor) spoon feed him, then can't understand why everyone else doesn't "get it". Sigh...I think I had more respect for him when I thought he was trolling.

In that other thread he actually SAID he'd worry less if leaks were happening and it were a Repub in the White House, which blows my mind (well, not really, nothing he ever writes blows my mind anymore, let's say it just "reminded me"), and then reiterates that DiFi has SAID the leaks CAME from the White House, which even a simple-minded person who read the article could see isn't true. So I smacked my head and thought "Jeez, Niki, even after all this time you try and treat him like a thinking person AGAIN?!?!"

Sorry about that. Back to ignoring him like the sensible person I THOUGHT I was... Where I would get the notion that he'd grown a second brain cell, I cannot say, but please chalk it up to three days without FFF having addled my brain slightly. Got it out of my system yesterday, so I'm semi-sane again.


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Wednesday, July 25, 2012 2:47 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Let's see ... Rush is stupid, a fat, butt-fucking addict, misogynistic, racist - what's NOT for ZIT and little Rappy to like!



Hey! Wait!

Why is it acceptable for 1kiki to talk about somebody being a butt-fucker and it's cool?

I'm just wondering if it's because it's not me who is saying it, if it's because it's a right winger that's being insulted, or a little of both.

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." ~Shepherd Book

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Wednesday, July 25, 2012 8:02 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:

In that other thread he actually SAID he'd worry less if leaks were happening and it were a Repub in the White House...




Yup, and then he went on to insist that no leaks ever occurred in the Valerie Plame case. Apparently he has secret info that he didn't share with Scooter Libby's jury!



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