Bain Investor: Romney Paid No Taxes for Ten Years by Kwicko

Meanwhile, Romney refuses to say whether he's paid less than 13.9% in years past.

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jul/29/news/la-pn-romney-unsure-if-he
s-paid-less-than-a-139-tax-rate-in-the-past-20120729

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Tuesday, July 31, 2012 1:23 PM

Speaking of non-issues, I got a 'robo-call' tonite from a young woman who is running for Congress in my district against....uhm...gulp...gasp.... my Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman-Schultz. She sounded like a valley girl circa 1980's Deborah Foreman style. I think I'm in love!

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Tuesday, July 31, 2012 1:34 PM

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Hello,

No taxes for ten years? That is a scurrilous accusation. We should immediately check Romney's tax returns to defend this candidate from those who would abuse his reputation. Once the tax returns are closely examined, I am sure we will find these statements to be without basis.

--Anthony

Note to Self:
Raptor - woman testifying about birth control is a slut (the term fits.)
Six - Wow, isn't Niki quite the CUNT? And, yes, I spell that in all caps....
Wulf - Niki is a stupid fucking bitch who should hurry up and die.

“The stupid neither forgive nor forget; the naive forgive and forget; the wise forgive but do not forget.” -Thomas Szasz

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Tuesday, July 31, 2012 1:39 PM

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Originally posted by ANTHONYT:
Hello,

No taxes for ten years? That is a scurrilous accusation. We should immediately check Romney's tax returns to defend this candidate from those who would abuse his reputation. Once the tax returns are closely examined, I am sure we will find these statements to be without basis.

--Anthony

I am inclined to agree.

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

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Tuesday, July 31, 2012 4:40 PM

Keep the Shiny side up

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Originally posted by ANTHONYT:
Hello,

No taxes for ten years? That is a scurrilous accusation.

Exactly.

Sort'a like the guy who told me that you torture small animals, and have three hookers buried in your back yard.

I obviously don't believe such rumors, but please prove to me that they're not true.

BTW, have you stopped beating your wife?

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Tuesday, July 31, 2012 4:47 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Harry Reid ? Daily Kos ?

ROFLMAO !!!

What next... stories of how Obama is the direct descendant from the VERY first black slave in the US ? On his white MOTHER'S side ???

ROFLAMO AGAIN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Tuesday, July 31, 2012 4:51 PM

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Originally posted by Geezer:
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Originally posted by ANTHONYT:
Hello,

No taxes for ten years? That is a scurrilous accusation.

Exactly.

Sort'a like the guy who told me that you torture small animals, and have three hookers buried in your back yard.

I obviously don't believe such rumors, but please prove to me that they're not true.

BTW, have you stopped beating your wife?

Hello,

I guess if I'm running for office, you will definitely want to know if I have a criminal record. You have my permission to perform a background check on me and determine my lack of criminal history. All of those things you mentioned are crimes.

Do you also want to know how I handle finances, before I begin to have input on the finances of a nation?

Well, you have my permission to access my tax returns from first to last.

You see, when I ran for public office, I realized that I become a person of interest. Information about my criminal record and financial acuity becomes important to my constituents, and should be vigorously pursued by the press as a service to the people of this great nation.

It's too bad I'm not just some private jerk. I could have been, but I asked someone to trust me with the keys to a country. So now, in the interests of the transparency I hold dear, I turn all information over to you, dear reader. And once I take office, I will run an equally transparent administration. This government belongs to you, and we don't have secrets from our citizenry.

My name is Anthony, and I approve of this message.

Cheers,

--Anthony

Note to Self:
Raptor - woman testifying about birth control is a slut (the term fits.)
Six - Wow, isn't Niki quite the CUNT? And, yes, I spell that in all caps....
Wulf - Niki is a stupid fucking bitch who should hurry up and die.

“The stupid neither forgive nor forget; the naive forgive and forget; the wise forgive but do not forget.” -Thomas Szasz

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Tuesday, July 31, 2012 5:03 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

What next... stories of how Obama is the direct decedent from the VERY first black slave in the US ? On his white MOTHER'S side ???

I was unaware that the President had died.

Do you have any source for this?

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decedent |diˈsēdnt|
noun

a person who has died : to make sure the decedent's property passes to his children.

ORIGIN late 16th cent.: from Latin decedent- ‘dying,’ from the verb decedere (see decease ).

ROFLMAO at YOU, AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Classic.

(Before you claim this was a "mere typo", and you really meant "descendant", notice exactly HOW MANY typos you'd have needed to make in order to get "decedent" from "descendant". I count no fewer than three; one per syllable. Maybe you should stick to monosyllabic words.

)

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Tuesday, July 31, 2012 11:59 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Typo fixed. I'll pay closer attention to typing when watching t.v. from now on. No biggie.

Now, as for the absurdity of the original claim of the thread? Well, it's laughable.

Romney has gone above and beyond the disclosure requirements by releasing two years of personal tax returns in addition to the hundreds of pages of personal financial disclosure documents he has provided to the FEC and made public.

Reid, like so many Leftist Dems, is a brazen, blatant liar.

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" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Wednesday, August 1, 2012 2:03 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Typo fixed. I'll pay closer attention to typing when watching t.v. from now on. No biggie.

Funny, the things that you do that show your ignorance are always "no biggie", but you'll spend hours and hours and hours on anyone else's misstatements or misspoken words.

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Now, as for the absurdity of the original claim of the thread? Well, it's laughable.

Romney has gone above and beyond the disclosure requirements by releasing two years of personal tax returns in addition to the hundreds of pages of personal financial disclosure documents he has provided to the FEC and made public.

Reid, like so many Leftist Dems, is a brazen, blatant liar.

The brazen, blatant liar is you. Romney has not released even two years of personal tax returns. Go look it up, and retract that lie.

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"The groin cup and throat protector have about as much ballistic protection as the kneepads I wear when I'm doing a job that requires me to be on my knees." - Troll

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Wednesday, August 1, 2012 2:16 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Reid, like so many Leftist Dems, is a brazen, blatant liar.

Actually he's much worse than just being a liar. We expect that from most politicians. Reid is a first-class a-hole.

When Bush was President, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid stood on the hallowed floor of the Senate and declared that the 'war was lost in Iraq.' He said it right as the troop surge was starting to show positive results. He said it as our troops were fighting in Fallujah. The bastard should have been dragged out of the building in handcuffs and packed off to Guantanamo right then. He'd be broiling in the tropical humidity awaiting trial for treason if Bush & Co. had had any real balls.

And speaking of tropical heat and humidity....how can we forget his choice words describing the 'unpleasant pungent aroma that wafts into the Senate from the perspiration of the Capitol tourists waiting in line to get in.' Seems he and Julius Caesar both had similar problems with unbearable smellyness coming from the unkempt mob.

And last, but far from least was his tearful and emotional speech in the Senate when he pleaded with his fellow distinguished gentlemen not to cut Federal funding for the Annual Cowboy Poetry Festival. I remember Senators from both parties debating other silly budget issues....like the Defense Dept. and Social Security, etc. ....but Harry just wanted to talk about his beloved and so-cherished cowboy poetry. He tried to educate all Americans that day about the glory of cowboy poetry, coincidentally right as Brokeback Mountain was hitting the theaters. Hey, did those cowboys on the mountain really read poetry? If so, was it read before, during, or after their Platonian acts? IMDB lists Harry Reid in an un-credited role in Brokeback, playing sheep number three, Fluffy.

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Wednesday, August 1, 2012 2:28 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Originally posted by ANTHONYT:
Hello,

I guess if I'm running for office, you will definitely want to know if I have a criminal record. You have my permission to perform a background check on me and determine my lack of criminal history. All of those things you mentioned are crimes.

Do you also want to know how I handle finances, before I begin to have input on the finances of a nation?

Well, you have my permission to access my tax returns from first to last.

You see, when I ran for public office, I realized that I become a person of interest. Information about my criminal record and financial acuity becomes important to my constituents, and should be vigorously pursued by the press as a service to the people of this great nation.

It's too bad I'm not just some private jerk. I could have been, but I asked someone to trust me with the keys to a country. So now, in the interests of the transparency I hold dear, I turn all information over to you, dear reader. And once I take office, I will run an equally transparent administration. This government belongs to you, and we don't have secrets from our citizenry.

My name is Anthony, and I approve of this message.

Cheers,

--Anthony

Well, if you know me at all by now, I'm very against the ease at which nearly anybody with a checkbook can find anything out about you these days, but you're absolutely right. I have no interest in serving the people politically.

Though I don't believe Romney is a Socialist/Communist like Obama, I don't think he'll be any better than GWB was when it comes to running our country financially.

I highly doubt he didn't pay taxes for 10 years, or he wouldn't be running for office. The only reason that Wesley Snipes got into so much trouble is because he was a face everyone could recognize. That's not to say that Wesley wouldn't have gotten into trouble anyways if he was somebody no one knew, but it sure didn't help.

All of that said, I see no reason why it shouldn't be standard practice for any politician on either side and at any level of politics to offer up this information. It doesn't have to be down to the penny credit card transactions (since I believe that WOULD be crossing the privacy boundary in a BIG way), but I think you could stand to learn a lot about a candidate by his financial history without even hearing a single lie coming out of his/her mouth.

I approve of this message as well.

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." ~Shepherd Book

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Wednesday, August 1, 2012 2:49 AM

Keep the Shiny side up

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Originally posted by ANTHONYT:

I guess if I'm running for office, you will definitely want to know if I have a criminal record. You have my permission to perform a background check on me and determine my lack of criminal history. All of those things you mentioned are crimes.

Don't need your permission to check for criminal records, as they're public, but no criminal record just means you haven't been caught yet. Come on, Anthony, you have to prove you've never broken the law, not that you just weren't arrested or convicted.

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Well, you have my permission to access my tax returns from first to last.

But you know very well that the IRS won't provide copies of your tax returns, even if you say it's all right. And they won't confirm or deny the accuracy of any copy that YOU might release. You could very well be releasing doctored copies. And even if your returns are accurate and show nothing illegal, is it really right for you to use all those tax loopholes?

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You see, when I ran for public office, I realized that I become a person of interest. Information about my criminal record and financial acuity becomes important to my constituents, and should be vigorously pursued by the press as a service to the people of this great nation.

And the press in general would probably accept your lack of criminal record and whatever copies of your tax returns you provide as valid.

Other folks, though, will claim that lack of a criminal record does not mean lack of criminality; or that documents you release could be fake; or that while your actions were in fact legal, they don't meet some fabricated moral test; or that your wife's hobby of showing her toy poodle indicates some sort of eliteism.

But you know this.

Just sort of disappointed you'd go along with it.

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Wednesday, August 1, 2012 7:00 AM

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Oh, Anthony, I DO love your style! Made me giggle, so I guess you get the prize for the first giggle of the morning. Actually, you get two, as your "message" was even better and cut to the chase as to why he should reveal them:

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Do you also want to know how I handle finances, before I begin to have input on the finances of a nation?

How about Business Insider? That a good enough cite for you? THEY theorized this before, among other things, too:

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This Is The Best Theory We've Heard Yet For Why Mitt Romney Won't Show His Taxes

A growing number of Republicans think that obviously Romney should release his taxes. But only he knows what's in his returns, and he does not think it's so obvious.

So everyone has their theories.

One easy possibility is that it's just a matter of drawing more attention to the fact that he is really rich and his tax rate isn't all that high. But this doesn't make sense since this would only confirm what everyone really knows.

Joshua Green at Bloomberg has what is the most logical theory so far... which is that thanks to the economic collapse of 2008, and the massive losses he probably suffered, Romney might not have paid any taxes in 2009, thanks to tax-loss carryforwards.
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As a member of the ultra-rich, Romney probably wasn’t spared major losses. And it’s possible that he suffered a large enough capital loss that, carried forward and coupled with his various offshore tax havens, he wound up paying no U.S. federal taxes at all in 2009. If true, this would be politically deadly for him. Even assuming that his return was thoroughly clean and legal — a safe assumption, it seems to me — the fallout would dwarf the controversy that attended the news that Romney had paid a tax rate of only 14 percent in 2010 and estimated he’d pay a similar rate in 2011.
We're not sure whether Green is right that it would be politically "deadly" though we could certainly see why Romney wouldn't want this known, if it were true.

Incidentally, another more exotic possibility that had come to mind is that somehow Mitt Romney made a windfall profit in 2008-2009, perhaps by being part of a fund that was short housing or bet on the bank bailouts. That's 100% speculation, but it would also be the kind of thing that would be deadly (probably more deadly than $0 taxes). It also would have been somewhat unplannable.

A problem with the tax loss carryforwards argument is that if Romney knew he'd be running in 2009 (and he probably did) then you'd think he'd have gone out of his way not to do anything that might look bad, even if 100% by the book.

Going back to the no tax issue, former political strategist and now media guy Peter Feld notes that the latest Obama TV ad specifically raises the possibility that Romney paid $0 in taxes. So in the absence of counter-evidence it seems likely that this is the theory that will become the most popular. http://www.businessinsider.com/did-romney-pay-0-in-taxes-2012-7

Given it would be an easy thing to release them, and that a growing number of REPUBLICANS are crying out for him to do so, the logical conclusion is that there's SOMETHING in there he doesn't want us to see. It's causing him far more grief not releasing them than anyone in his position would like, so the reasonable explanation is there's something in there, we don't know what, which would be more uncomfortable for him to have us know than slogging through all the demands he disclose them.

Mike is also right; Romney has revealed only ONE year of his taxes. Raptor is mistaken; which is no surprise, given his only sources of "information".

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Socialist/Communist like Obama

I sincerely hope that was a joke. If not, I would lose considerable respect for your intelligence.

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your wife's hobby of showing her toy poodle indicates some sort of eliteism (sic).

While claims have been made to that effect, the salient point about Ms. Romney's horse is that Romney claimed it as a BUSINESS EXPENSE, not a hobby of his wife's. By the way, it's "elitism".

Arguing whether and why he should release his returns is a waste of time with some people; they will ALWAYS come back with some inanity as to why he shouldn't, usually coupled with some charge against Obama. They don't have to make sense, they only have to vomit up what they've heard.

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Wednesday, August 1, 2012 7:09 AM

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But you know very well that the IRS won't provide copies of your tax returns, even if you say it's all right.

Hello,

What? Sure they will. There's even a release form for it. You didn't know that? All I have to do is authorize it, and you'll get a big old transcript of my taxes.

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Come on, Anthony, you have to prove you've never broken the law, not that you just weren't arrested or convicted.

Oh, but you know I don't have to prove my innocence. I just need to be as transparent as possible, leaving only kooks to question my innocence. Is Romney being as transparent as possible? I think his lack of transparency is leaving more than kooks to question his veracity.

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But you know this.

I'm just sort of disappointed you want an opaque presidential candidate.

--Anthony

Note to Self:
Raptor - woman testifying about birth control is a slut (the term fits.)
Six - Wow, isn't Niki quite the CUNT? And, yes, I spell that in all caps....
Wulf - Niki is a stupid fucking bitch who should hurry up and die.

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Wednesday, August 1, 2012 8:14 AM

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Originally posted by Geezer:
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Originally posted by ANTHONYT:

I guess if I'm running for office, you will definitely want to know if I have a criminal record. You have my permission to perform a background check on me and determine my lack of criminal history. All of those things you mentioned are crimes.

Don't need your permission to check for criminal records, as they're public, but no criminal record just means you haven't been caught yet. Come on, Anthony, you have to prove you've never broken the law, not that you just weren't arrested or convicted.

How's that? How does releasing your tax returns prove that you've never broken the law? You're holding Anthony here to a much, MUCH higher standard than you'll hold your own chosen candidates, it seems.

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Well, you have my permission to access my tax returns from first to last.

But you know very well that the IRS won't provide copies of your tax returns, even if you say it's all right. And they won't confirm or deny the accuracy of any copy that YOU might release. You could very well be releasing doctored copies. And even if your returns are accurate and show nothing illegal, is it really right for you to use all those tax loopholes?

Romney insists that it *IS* right, and says any candidate who pays a penny more than he absolutely has to is unqualified for the office.

"I don’t pay more than are legally due and frankly if I had paid more than are legally due I don’t think I’d be qualified to become president." - Mitt Romney, in an interview with ABC News

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You see, when I ran for public office, I realized that I become a person of interest. Information about my criminal record and financial acuity becomes important to my constituents, and should be vigorously pursued by the press as a service to the people of this great nation.

And the press in general would probably accept your lack of criminal record and whatever copies of your tax returns you provide as valid.

Other folks, though, will claim that lack of a criminal record does not mean lack of criminality; or that documents you release could be fake; or that while your actions were in fact legal, they don't meet some fabricated moral test; or that your wife's hobby of showing her toy poodle indicates some sort of eliteism.

Like you just did, you mean.

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But you know this.

Just sort of disappointed you'd go along with it.

Tell it to Karl Rove and the conservative movement.

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"The groin cup and throat protector have about as much ballistic protection as the kneepads I wear when I'm doing a job that requires me to be on my knees." - Troll

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Wednesday, August 1, 2012 8:17 AM

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Originally posted by ANTHONYT:
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But you know very well that the IRS won't provide copies of your tax returns, even if you say it's all right.

Hello,

What? Sure they will. There's even a release form for it. You didn't know that? All I have to do is authorize it, and you'll get a big old transcript of my taxes.

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Come on, Anthony, you have to prove you've never broken the law, not that you just weren't arrested or convicted.

Oh, but you know I don't have to prove my innocence. I just need to be as transparent as possible, leaving only kooks to question my innocence. Is Romney being as transparent as possible? I think his lack of transparency is leaving more than kooks to question his veracity.

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But you know this.

I'm just sort of disappointed you want an opaque presidential candidate.

--Anthony

At this point, Mitt's opacity is leaving only the kooks to try to DEFEND his candidacy.

It's curious that Geezer wants to see more paperwork from a potential voter than he does from his presidential candidate.

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"The groin cup and throat protector have about as much ballistic protection as the kneepads I wear when I'm doing a job that requires me to be on my knees." - Troll

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Wednesday, August 1, 2012 8:56 AM

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It's curious that Geezer wants to see more paperwork from a potential voter than he does from his presidential candidate.

Hello,

Well, that's something of a bit of hyperbole. A bit of exaggeration to add a zinger and a smirk.

Me, I'm a transparency in government guy, and when you want to lead my government, I expect transparency from you, too. I think everyone benefits from such transparency.

--Anthony

Note to Self:
Raptor - woman testifying about birth control is a slut (the term fits.)
Six - Wow, isn't Niki quite the CUNT? And, yes, I spell that in all caps....
Wulf - Niki is a stupid fucking bitch who should hurry up and die.

“The stupid neither forgive nor forget; the naive forgive and forget; the wise forgive but do not forget.” -Thomas Szasz

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Wednesday, August 1, 2012 9:04 AM

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

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At this point, Mitt's opacity is leaving only the kooks to try to DEFEND his candidacy.

Hadn't thought of it that way, but that's right on. Only I would add "his deliberately blind supporters and surrogates". At this point, all those categories are pretty much reduced to "Romney has paid all the taxes he's legally bound to". Which was funny--watching a surrogate questioned about this multiple times on a political show, no matter how she was addressed or what questions she was asked about the tax returns, every response began with that phrase EXACTLY, then went right on to attack Obama on his handling of the economy. EVERY time, and she was asked four or five times. It's gotten downright humorous, since everybody knows that "legally bound to" has nothing to do with it. We all know he's very carefully paid only what his advisors have 'sussed out he can get away with "legally". It's what he might have gotten away with--legally--that he's afraid to show the public.

I do agree with Anthony that the statement was hyperbole--it was actually a misstatement anyway. Anthony's hypothetical situation wasn't about "a potential voter", it was about a potential CANDIDATE for office. I don't recall anyone asking to see a VOTER's tax returns, tho' maybe I missed something. Geezer was also responding to a hypothetical question, not actually asking to see anyone's tax returns.

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Wednesday, August 1, 2012 9:59 AM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:

What next... stories of how Obama is the direct decedent from the VERY first black slave in the US ? On his white MOTHER'S side ???

I was unaware that the President had died.

Do you have any source for this?

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decedent |di'sednt|
noun

a person who has died : to make sure the decedent's property passes to his children.

ORIGIN late 16th cent.: from Latin decedent- ‘dying,’ from the verb decedere (see decease ).

ROFLMAO at YOU, AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Classic.

(Before you claim this was a "mere typo", and you really meant "descendant", notice exactly HOW MANY typos you'd have needed to make in order to get "decedent" from "descendant". I count no fewer than three; one per syllable. Maybe you should stick to monosyllabic words. )

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"The groin cup and throat protector have about as much ballistic protection as the kneepads I wear when I'm doing a job that requires me to be on my knees." - Troll

Kwik,

never point out when Rap has made a really dumb mistake. He'll just go back, edit it, and then later claim it never happened. Just laugh loudly, point it out quietly to select other posters, and remember it as proof of what a bozo he is.

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Wednesday, August 1, 2012 10:08 AM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT

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Originally posted by ANTHONYT:
Hello,

No taxes for ten years? That is a scurrilous accusation. We should immediately check Romney's tax returns to defend this candidate from those who would abuse his reputation. Once the tax returns are closely examined, I am sure we will find these statements to be without basis.

--Anthony

Note to Self:
Raptor - woman testifying about birth control is a slut (the term fits.)
Six - Wow, isn't Niki quite the CUNT? And, yes, I spell that in all caps....
Wulf - Niki is a stupid fucking bitch who should hurry up and die.

“The stupid neither forgive nor forget; the naive forgive and forget; the wise forgive but do not forget.” -Thomas Szasz

Yeah, but we'd have to see them unredacted, and have the IRS Chief provide the original, complete long form papers, just to make sure he's not part of some kind of conspiracy to defraud. That sorta stuff happens, especially with Hawaiian birth certificates.

And I notice the typical right wing defense here: change the subject, attack the messenger, mirror the attack on THEIR target, and quickly descend to the ad hominem, insulting everybody who made a statement, posted it, or stands on the other side of the argument. And whinging about anybody who applies "good for the goose, good for the gander" logic about anything they've done in the past.

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Wednesday, August 1, 2012 10:28 AM

STORYMARK

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Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:

What next... stories of how Obama is the direct decedent from the VERY first black slave in the US ? On his white MOTHER'S side ???

I was unaware that the President had died.

Do you have any source for this?

Quote:
decedent |di'sednt|
noun

a person who has died : to make sure the decedent's property passes to his children.

ORIGIN late 16th cent.: from Latin decedent- ‘dying,’ from the verb decedere (see decease ).

ROFLMAO at YOU, AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Classic.

(Before you claim this was a "mere typo", and you really meant "descendant", notice exactly HOW MANY typos you'd have needed to make in order to get "decedent" from "descendant". I count no fewer than three; one per syllable. Maybe you should stick to monosyllabic words. )

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"The groin cup and throat protector have about as much ballistic protection as the kneepads I wear when I'm doing a job that requires me to be on my knees." - Troll

Kwik,

never point out when Rap has made a really dumb mistake. He'll just go back, edit it, and then later claim it never happened. Just laugh loudly, point it out quietly to select other posters, and remember it as proof of what a bozo he is.

Or, even better, grab a screen-cap, wait for him to edit, preferably maneuver him into denying the edit, then post the cap. It's good times.

Note to anyone - Please pity the poor, poor wittle Rappyboy. He's feeling put upon lately, what with all those facts disagreeing with what he believes.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Wednesday, August 1, 2012 10:55 AM

Keep the Shiny side up

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
You're holding Anthony here to a much, MUCH higher standard than you'll hold your own chosen candidates, it seems.

Nope. Just to the same standard you hold your opposition to.

And the idea that either Obama or Romney would be my "chosen candidate" shows how little attention you actually pay.

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Wednesday, August 1, 2012 1:17 PM

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Originally posted by Niki2:

I do agree with Anthony that the statement was hyperbole--it was actually a misstatement anyway. Anthony's hypothetical situation wasn't about "a potential voter", it was about a potential CANDIDATE for office. I don't recall anyone asking to see a VOTER's tax returns, tho' maybe I missed something. Geezer was also responding to a hypothetical question, not actually asking to see anyone's tax returns.

It's a dig at Geezer's long-standing support of onerous voter ID laws and "papers, please" laws - he wants more documentation of you before you're allowed to vote than he wants from the GOP presidential candidate.

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Wednesday, August 1, 2012 1:21 PM

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Originally posted by Geezer:
Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
You're holding Anthony here to a much, MUCH higher standard than you'll hold your own chosen candidates, it seems.

Nope. Just to the same standard you hold your opposition to.

Really? I don't recall demanding to see anyone's criminal record, or demanding that they prove that they don't have a criminal background. You just pulled that out of your ass.

If I were holding Romney to the same standard Obama has been held to, I'd be demanding his birth certificate - no, his LONG-FORM birth certificate - his college transcripts, and a dozen years' worth of tax returns.

So far, Romney has provided none of those, has he? He released something he said was his birth certificate, but birthers will be quick to tell you how easily those things can be faked. ;)

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And the idea that either Obama or Romney would be my "chosen candidate" shows how little attention you actually pay.

I notice you haven't proven that.

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Friday, August 3, 2012 3:57 AM

Keep the Shiny side up

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Originally posted by Kwicko:

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And the idea that either Obama or Romney would be my "chosen candidate" shows how little attention you actually pay.

I notice you haven't proven that.

Sorry, Mike, but I made the accusation, so you have to prove it's not correct. Just provide the transcript of me saying either Obama or Romeny is my "Chosen Candidate". Otherwise, you're obviously hiding something.

Hey, it's your thread, so I'm just playing by your rules.

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Friday, August 3, 2012 4:09 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Really? I don't recall demanding to see anyone's criminal record, or demanding that they prove that they don't have a criminal background. You just pulled that out of your ass.

If I were holding Romney to the same standard Obama has been held to, I'd be demanding his birth certificate - no, his LONG-FORM birth certificate - his college transcripts, and a dozen years' worth of tax returns.

So far, Romney has provided none of those, has he? He released something he said was his birth certificate, but birthers will be quick to tell you how easily those things can be faked. ;)

Honestly Kwick, rephrase this....

It's not a standard Obama has been held to, since we've never seen any of this. It is just something the "other side" has continually asked for going on 4 1/2 years that has never been given.

And really, in this day and age, does it even matter?

14 years ago when I was a dumb kid, I didn't know why I was doing it, but I was able to Photoshop back-dates on postal documents on very rare occasion without even thinking about it on command, and I never even used a Mac in my life three months beforehand. Easy Piecy.... The old guys there thought I was some sort of wizard.

When it comes to politicians on either side, so long as they are still valuable and didn't do anything so egregious that they'd be shunned by their backers, there is no point in any average Joe trying to prove that any of their documents were falsified.

I "made" over 27k last year. Of course, in reality I actually "made" 0 dollars, but because I withdrew retirement funds to pay for the house, it looks like I "made" a good sum.

Now that I'm looking for FAFSA grants and otherwise, it's going to be REALLY hard for me to find any because I "made" so much last year. I'll have to wait until next year when my 8 dollar an hour position wage kicks in.

Of course, I could falsify documents just as easily today, but in this technological age we live in they'd figure me out by the end of the week, and then they'd cripple me.

Why?

Because I'm not dialed in. Period.

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." ~Shepherd Book

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Friday, August 3, 2012 5:12 AM

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Going all the way back to the initial thread: I abhor what Reid is doing. I get that it's a tactic to force Romney's hand, but it's despicable because I don't believe there IS anyone telling him Romney didn't pay any taxes, and his following it up with "It's going around that Romney paid no taxes for ten years" is deplorable. Just sayin'.

Should he prove me wrong and there ARE valid informants, I'm still not sure I approve, but it will lessen my anger somewhat. It is nonetheless unacceptable in my view.

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Friday, August 3, 2012 5:23 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Really? I don't recall demanding to see anyone's criminal record, or demanding that they prove that they don't have a criminal background. You just pulled that out of your ass.

If I were holding Romney to the same standard Obama has been held to, I'd be demanding his birth certificate - no, his LONG-FORM birth certificate - his college transcripts, and a dozen years' worth of tax returns.

So far, Romney has provided none of those, has he? He released something he said was his birth certificate, but birthers will be quick to tell you how easily those things can be faked. ;)

Honestly Kwick, rephrase this....

It's not a standard Obama has been held to, since we've never seen any of this. It is just something the "other side" has continually asked for going on 4 1/2 years that has never been given.

I know you only get your "news" from Faux and other right-wing talkers, Jack, so maybe they've never reported it, but the President actually has released a dozen years' of tax returns AND his birth certificate.

Now as you your "rephrase this" comment... Did I say anything that is factually untrue or incorrect?

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If I were holding Romney to the same standard Obama has been held to, I'd be demanding his birth certificate - no, his LONG-FORM birth certificate - his college transcripts, and a dozen years' worth of tax returns.

What do you find to be untrue about this statement, or in need or rephrasing? Are you suggesting that nobody on the right has asked for these things? Perhaps you need to brush up on your reading comprehension skills a bit.

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Friday, August 3, 2012 6:09 AM

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

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Mitt Romney on Thursday pushed back against Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid's allegations that the presumptive GOP nominee has not been paying his taxes.

"It's time for Harry to put up or shut up," Romney said on Sean Hannity's radio show.

In a Huffington Post interview published Tuesday, the leading Democrat said that an unnamed investor with Bain Capital, Romney's former private equity firm, told Reid in a phone conversation that Romney had not paid taxes for a decade.

Reid stood by the allegations on Thursday while speaking on the Senate floor.

"The word's out that he hasn't paid any taxes for 10 years," he said. "Let him prove he has paid taxes because he hasn't."

Democrats and President Barack Obama's re-election campaign have repeatedly called for Romney to release more tax documents to answer any questions about his financial portfolio.

Romney has made public the full 2010 tax return and an estimate for 2011, with a pledge to release the full year once it's complete. He filed an extension for an October deadline.

Critics have hit back against Reid's comments this week, faulting him for making claims based off an anonymous source.

"Harry's gonna have to describe who it is he spoke with because of course that's totally and completely wrong," Romney said Thursday in the radio interview. "It's untrue, dishonest and inaccurate. It's wrong. So I'm looking forward to have Harry reveal his sources and we'll probably find out that it's the White House."

Mirroring Romney's comments, senior campaign adviser Eric Fehrnstrom described Reid's comments as "shameful, pathetic, baseless and untrue" and argued the majority leader, with the help of the Obama campaign, was attempting to "engage in McCarthy-like accusations about Mitt Romney."

Reid, the source said, is unconcerned about the hits he is taking on making unsubstantiated claims, because the Democratic base is fired up. The source says they know that anecdotally. It's not an accident that Reid said this to the Huffington Post, a friendly outlet, and did so as Romney was returning from his overseas trip.

One of Romney's biggest surrogates, Sen. John McCain of Arizona, came to Romney's defense on Thursday, saying Reid may have "gone over the line."

"I've known Sen. Reid for many, many years, and occasionally he displays some rather erratic behavior," McCain said on CNN's "Anderson Cooper 360." "To accuse someone of doing something without a shred of proof–that the allegation has any substance–is really something I, frankly, don't understand."

McCain, whose 2008 presidential campaign reviewed Romney's tax records as they considered him to be the vice presidential running mate, said last month he can "personally vouch" that there was "nothing disqualifying" in the tax returns of the presumptive GOP presidential nominee. More bullshit at http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/08/02/romney-to-reid-put-up-
or-shut-up/

Yes, I think Reid went over the line, and yes, I think we all know why. And yes, having made the accusation, the ball is in Reid's court to prove it. As well, saying "the word is out" is patently false and reprehensible.

But I can't help smiling when I think of ALL the lies Romney has told this campaign season and how he has portrayed Obama, and in a way believe Romney has this shit coming. Given he could put it all to rest quickly and easily, given Obama finally caved to the birthers and showed his birth certificate (which demand wasn't NEARLY as important as the quesion of tax returns), I have little sympathy for him. I think most people are convinced there's something in there he doesn't want us to see, but I THINK it's probably something that just makes him look bad, probably not that he paid NO tax...tho' that's not impossible.

Note that McCain--the only person with access to those returns, carefully worded his statement to say "there was "nothing disqualifying" in the tax returns. That's the equivalent of the repeated and repeated "out" of every one of Romney's supporters and surrogates: "Romney has paid all the taxes he is legally bound to." Don't think anyone's questioning that, but McCain saying what he did sounds just like it--and further gives credence to the possibility that there is something in there that would make Romney look bad in the eyes of the American public.

On the other hand, there is always potentially this:

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Lawrence O’Donnell raised a rather provocative question on his show tonight: did Mitt Romney participate in an IRS amnesty program in 2009, and was his refusal to report it a felony? He brought this up in the context of the renewed scrutiny of Romney’s tax returns after the recent allegations made against him by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.

O’Donnell brought up an IRS amnesty program regarding foreign bank accounts, and asked if Romney was involved in the program and didn’t report it, if it means he has committed a felony. Tax attorney Jeremy Temkin said it would have to be demonstrated that it was not done “willfully,” and the government would have to prove that one knew they had “an obligation to report” in that instance.

If it came out that Romney was involved in such a program, it would certainly hurt him politically, but said Romney essentially invited the scrutiny on himself through his campaign’s lack of transparency.

Well, if it turned out that was the issue, I don't think it's that important. I'd bet a LOT of people took part in that amnesty; while I think it's rather sordid if he did--they can never prove it was done willfully, but I don't doubt for one second Romney and his accountants wouldn't have considered it and knew what they were doing--it's not surprising and no more than any wealthy individual would do. So the "felony" shit is just that...shit.

I guess I'm on the fence. What Reid is doing is reprehensible, but what Romney's doing withholding his tax returns is highly suspect, and in my opinion he DID kind of put himself in the position he's in. And given Romney's ads and statements which have been wholly without substance, he gets no sympathy from me.

One of the most amusing parts is the McCarthy thing. Asking a candidate for the White House to release his tax returns is McCarthyism??? Oh, PULEEZE! You KNOW where that comes from, the recent witch hunt by Bachmann et al, which IS casting aspersions on an American citizen without any proof and just to get attention, precisely what McCarthy did. Exchange "Communist" for "Muslim Brotherhood" and it works perfectly. So they're trying to turn the tables...but it's a truly feeble attempt.

Politics. Bah. I don't actually WANT there to be anything in his tax returns of a serious or legal nature. This close to election, what would the Repubs DO if that were the case?? Nominate Ron Paul? Eeep! As it is, they're shooting themselves in the foot pretty regularly, making themselves and him look like fools, turning numerous groups of Americans against them, from Hispanics to African-Americans to women, and the numbers are starting to show it. Personally, I hope he keeps refusing to relese the damned returns, it's working great for Obama.

I'm no particular fan of Obama, and never will be. But Romney as President would be pushed by the Tea Partiers, freshmen Congressmen and fringe elements into taking this country in a direction I think would be disasterous. As usual, lesser of two evils...

So don't release those returns, Mr. Romney, that's just fine with me!

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Friday, August 3, 2012 6:24 AM

Keep the Shiny side up

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Originally posted by Niki2:
Going all the way back to the initial thread: I abhor what Reid is doing. I get that it's a tactic to force Romney's hand, but it's despicable because I don't believe there IS anyone telling him Romney didn't pay any taxes, and his following it up with "It's going around that Romney paid no taxes for ten years" is deplorable. Just sayin'.

Should he prove me wrongl and there ARE valid informants, I'm still not sure I approve, but it will lessen my anger somewhat. It is nonetheless unacceptable in my view.

Not that I believe Reid's claims at all, but even IF Romney paid no income tax for ten years...so what?

As long as he filed legal returns, why shouldn't he take advantage of the tax laws to pay as little as possible? And with his income, you pretty much know he'd be audited at least once in ten years.

Anyone here purposely pay more taxes?

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Friday, August 3, 2012 7:01 AM

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

I certainly agree on that point, unquestionably. The only reason it woud make him look bad to everyone who isn't able to do so; it's politics, and, as with all things political, appearances are more important than substance (bah!). For me, it's just the way things are and I'd like to see them changed so there are less loopholes and fewer opportunities for the ultra-rich to get out of paying taxes, but that if he did what people can do now to avoid them, there's obviously nothing wrong with it. It's the SYSTEM that needs to be changed, not people being able to use the system to their own advantage.

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Friday, August 3, 2012 7:11 AM

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Originally posted by Geezer:
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Originally posted by Niki2:
Going all the way back to the initial thread: I abhor what Reid is doing. I get that it's a tactic to force Romney's hand, but it's despicable because I don't believe there IS anyone telling him Romney didn't pay any taxes, and his following it up with "It's going around that Romney paid no taxes for ten years" is deplorable. Just sayin'.

Should he prove me wrongl and there ARE valid informants, I'm still not sure I approve, but it will lessen my anger somewhat. It is nonetheless unacceptable in my view.

Not that I believe Reid's claims at all, but even IF Romney paid no income tax for ten years...so what?

As long as he filed legal returns, why shouldn't he take advantage of the tax laws to pay as little as possible? And with his income, you pretty much know he'd be audited at least once in ten years.

Anyone here purposely pay more taxes?

First off, "you pretty much know he'd be audited"? Really? How, pray tell, would we "pretty much know" that, if Romney isn't saying?

Secondly, "As long as he filed legal returns..." Well, we know he has a past history of filing and signing returns that WEREN'T strictly legal, like when he claimed to have been a Massachusetts resident even though he paid federal income taxes as a Utah resident. And then he claimed that the he hadn't read any of the forms he signed "under penalty of perjury".

So when Mittens asks us all to "just take my word for it," you'll pardon me if I decline that advice.

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Friday, August 3, 2012 7:14 AM

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even IF Romney paid no income tax for ten years...so what?

Hello,

Such a revelation may make people more inclined to revise tax laws to make sure something like that doesn't happen again. People may also doubt that someone who has benefited from such incredible tax escapes should be helping to build the country's tax law. Especially when such a person isn't speaking about their own experience with such escapes and how, while they may have enjoyed them, they don't believe they are fair. Or maybe they do believe such tax escapes are fair. Either way, it'd be nice to know.

But we can only conjecture. Nobody knows what Romney may or may not have paid, or why he is shy with his tax records.

--Anthony

Note to Self:
Raptor - woman testifying about birth control is a slut (the term fits.)
Six - Wow, isn't Niki quite the CUNT? And, yes, I spell that in all caps....
Wulf - Niki is a stupid fucking bitch who should hurry up and die.

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Friday, August 3, 2012 7:40 AM

FREMDFIRMA

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Originally posted by ANTHONYT:
But we can only conjecture. Nobody knows what Romney may or may not have paid, or why he is shy with his tax records.

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Friday, August 3, 2012 8:24 AM

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

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maybe they do believe such tax escapes are fair

I'd be willing to bet Romney--and virtually all in his tax bracket--are quite happy with these things. After all, in most cases they're the ones who "bought" those laws...

Good point about someone like that running the country, and probably the very reason the cry has gone up for him to show them. The Dems, of course, think there's probably something they could make hay with, but far more important is the fact that, especially given he's touted his ability to be a "job creator", etc., it would be important to know what kind of loopholes he's "legally" used and how much he benefitted from the jobs he KILLED. Seems to me someone who does what Bain does wouldn't be particularly interested in the welfare of ALL America's citizens, but more focused on other things that might not be so good for the country as a whole.

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Friday, August 3, 2012 10:13 AM

Keep the Shiny side up

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
First off, "you pretty much know he'd be audited"? Really? How, pray tell, would we "pretty much know" that, if Romney isn't saying?

Common sense. Anyone who filed returns for ten years with enough deductions to pay zero tax would certainly meet standard audit criteria.

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Well, we know he has a past history of filing and signing returns that WEREN'T strictly legal...

Okay, this apparently falls under your "someone alleged this so it must be true" scenario, sort'a like "Romney paid no taxes for ten years".

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Friday, August 3, 2012 12:19 PM

A former ACORN worker who often helped Obama organize within the Chicago community is now revealing that Obama used ACORN's real estate database to locate and secure abandoned buildings around Chicago that could be used for teenage prostitution. Obama would get a big fee (kickback) from the pimps for his services. The anonymous ex-ACORN worker sounded VERY sincere on the phone call, and said there should be records documenting Obama's ACORN legal and
accounting activities from that time. Release the records!

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Friday, August 3, 2012 12:22 PM

WHOZIT

OMG! What the hell is wrong with you! If he hasn't paid taxes in 10 fucking years ya think the MSM would know by now! THAT is a hard secret to keep.

Meanwhile Harry "old fool" Reid won't release his for the last 10 years.

Also, a person in Waco has stated that you have a very small penis, can you prove he/she is wrong? I think you should prove to everyone you don't have a tiny whiney, the person who told me this is credible.....atleast that's what I'm saying.

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Friday, August 3, 2012 12:40 PM

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Originally posted by whozit:
OMG! What the hell is wrong with you! If he hasn't paid taxes in 10 fucking years ya think the MSM would know by now! THAT is a hard secret to keep.

Meanwhile Harry "old fool" Reid won't release his for the last 10 years.

Also, a person in Waco has stated that you have a very small penis, can you prove he/she is wrong? I think you should prove to everyone you don't have a tiny whiney, the person who told me this is credible.....atleast that's what I'm saying.

I have no problem believing your source for the Harry Reid "small penis" thing. Really little room for doubt there.

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Friday, August 3, 2012 3:32 PM

CNN's Dana Bash, not a fan of Harry Reid's: "But I did speak, I just have to tell you, that I did speak to one source who’s very close to Senator Reid who claims to also know who this Bain investor is that Reid spoke with, and insists that this is a credible person and this person if we knew the name we would understand that they would have the authority and the ability to know about Romney’s tax returns."

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1208/02/acd.01.html

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BASH: It's very personal and it is very Harry Reid. Look, first of all, let me just back up and say you pointed out the interview he gave with the "Huffington Post." Again evidence, it's a friendly outlet. They did it -- he did this very strategically.

In terms of the personal, that is Harry Reid. I mean he -- when he wanted to go after Alan Greenspan, he called him the partisan hack. When he went after President Bush, he called him a liar and a loser. He apologized for the loser part, not for liar.

But this is -- when Harry Reid doesn't like somebody, he goes for the jugular. And that is what he is doing now. He is an old boxer and he still likes to be a political street fighter. He knew full well that he was going to be questioned over and over again on who his source was. And he said -- he's told people close to him who I have spoken today that he didn't care. He's not telling going to tell who his source is.

But I did speak, I just have to tell you, that I did speak to one source who's very close to Senator Reid who claims to also know who this Bain investor is that Reid spoke with, and insists that this is a credible person and this person if we knew the name we would understand that they would have the authority and the ability to know about Romney's tax returns. Whether we'll find it out ever, who knows. But they're doing this on purpose so that this is the discussion.

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Friday, August 3, 2012 3:37 PM

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Originally posted by Geezer:
Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
First off, "you pretty much know he'd be audited"? Really? How, pray tell, would we "pretty much know" that, if Romney isn't saying?

Common sense. Anyone who filed returns for ten years with enough deductions to pay zero tax would certainly meet standard audit criteria.

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Well, we know he has a past history of filing and signing returns that WEREN'T strictly legal...

Okay, this apparently falls under your "someone alleged this so it must be true" scenario, sort'a like "Romney paid no taxes for ten years".

It apparently fall under your "someone who isn't a Romney fan said it, so it must be false" scenario.

Retiring from Bain wasn't the ONLY thing Romney was doing retroactively in 2002. He was also retroactively living in Massachusetts the whole time he wasn't, once he found out that Massachusetts requires its governor to actually have lived there in the years leading up to his running for the office.

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Friday, August 3, 2012 3:38 PM

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Hello,

I think, in the end, this claim is just window dressing on a larger issue. This candidate is too opaque, and releasing additional tax returns would clarify his financial practices and acumen a great deal.

--Anthony

Note to Self:
Raptor - woman testifying about birth control is a slut (the term fits.)
Six - Wow, isn't Niki quite the CUNT? And, yes, I spell that in all caps....
Wulf - Niki is a stupid fucking bitch who should hurry up and die.

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Friday, August 3, 2012 3:52 PM

"Look at me! Look at my business record! Whoops - don't look too closely! I think you're just going to have to take my word for it!"

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Friday, August 3, 2012 3:58 PM

Too bad they misspelled the name of the Herald...

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Friday, August 3, 2012 5:09 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

Romney is unelectable and everybody knows it. He lost re-election for governor of Massachusetts. He's a ringer for Obama to help Obama win, and to stop Ron Paul from winning. He wrote Obamacare. He makes too much money to want to be president. Gore and Kerry both took a dive to allow GW Bush to "win", now it's Romney's turn to take a dive.

His dirt goes deeper than paying zero taxes.

Warren Buffet not only paid zero taxes, he paid himself $25-billion personal salary in 1 year, tax free, by robbing his stockholders (government pension funds). He is named as a pedophile in the Franklin coverup. He met with all the World Trade Center CEOs "coincidentally" playing golf at US Air Force Strategic Air command HQ the morning on 9/11 when GW Bush flew in fro mread the goat story. Yet Buffet is quoted every day as the gury who will save America.

Paying zero taxes (or less) is mandatory before beign worshipped as a god by the media mafiya.

Obama's Govt Motors paid zero taxes, then got a $3.5-billion tax refund to move to Commie China.

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Friday, August 3, 2012 7:05 PM