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He touts Islam as a religion that Sandra Fluke could like.

Obama's politically correct spin on Islam grows more and more buffoonish. At the very moment he accuses Christians of waging a "war on women," he casts Islam as a benevolent religion to which the Sandra Flukes could take refuge.

He used his remarks at this year's Iftar dinner to praise Islam as a female-friendly religion. "Indeed, you know that the Koran teaches, 'Be it man or woman, each of you is equal to the other,'" he said. For Obama, it is the Bible, not the Koran, that reeks of dangerous patriarchy. Obama has mocked the Book of Leviticus, Deuteronomy, and St. Paul's letters, but he would never dare question a passage in the Koran, which he regards as a holy and blameless book in no need of politically correct revision.

If the oppression at Georgetown gets to be too much for Sandra Fluke, she could always try her luck in the Islamic world, where the rights of women are spreading like wildfire, according to Obama. Thanks in part to Islam, he said, this year's Olympics can be dubbed "The Year of the Woman," as Muslim countries generously allowed a few women to play: "Also, for the very first time in Olympic history, every team now includes a woman athlete. And one of the reasons is that every team from a Muslim-majority country now includes women as well."
Obama was particularly pleased that women got the chance to "face down tanks" in the Arab Spring. Nothing proves sameness between the sexes better than the equal opportunity to die.

Obama seemed unable to get his favorite constituency off his mind, excitedly noting that one of the first "Muslim chaplains at an American college" is a woman, Sanaa Nadim. How did the imams in attendance at the dinner feel about that remark? No doubt they murmur to themselves that Obama is an idiot, albeit a very useful one.

Obama also peppered his speech with his customary deceptions about America's Islamic-friendly origins. "As I've noted before, Thomas Jefferson once held a sunset dinner here with an envoy from Tunisia -- perhaps the first Iftar at the White House, more than 200 years ago," he said. Notice Obama's weasely use of the word "perhaps." Why the hedging? Because he knows perfectly well that it wasn't an Iftar dinner but a war negotiation. Seeking to end the Barbary War with Islamic pirates, Jefferson invited Tunisian envoy Sidi Soliman Mellimelli to Washington. He invited him to a dinner at the White House not to honor Islam but to end a war. The dinner happened to coincide with Ramadan. Jefferson pushed the time back for the dinner to "sunset" in order to ensure that Mellimelli would attend. It wasn't by any stretch of the imagination an Iftar dinner.

But Obama wasn't done misleading his audience. "And some of you, as you arrived tonight, may have seen our special display, courtesy of our friends at the Library of Congress -- the Koran that belonged to Thomas Jefferson. And that's a reminder, along with the generations of patriotic Muslims in America, that Islam-- like so many faiths -- is part of our national story."

He failed to mention that Jefferson purchased the Koran in order to understand the attitudes and tactics of the Barbary pirates. For Jefferson, it wasn't a holy book but a manual for war.

No mention of that on the placard near the "special display." (If Obama really wanted to wow his Muslim friends, he should have shown them "Jefferson's Bible" over at the Smithsonian's History Museum, which is a tribute to TJ's secularist tastes in that he deleted from his copy of the Bible all references to the supernatural. Jefferson's secularized Bible foreshadowed the left-wing Christianity that Obama now espouses.)

Obama concluded his remarks with an absurdly hypocritical paean to "freedom of religion." As he purges Christianity from public life, forbidding any public application of it that conflicts with his liberal dictates, Obama has the gall to gush about religious freedom as a "universal right." In Obama's envisioned America, Islam belongs to the "national story" while Judeo-Christianity marks a chapter best forgotten.

http://spectator.org/archives/2012/08/15/obamas-iftar-dinner

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Extremists target Tunisian Olympian

Habiba Ghribi became the first Tunisian woman to win an Olympic medal.
Share This Story Updated Aug 14, 2012 2:34 PM ET TUNIS, Tunisia (AP) Islamist extremists have targeted two Tunisian Olympic medalists for behavior and dress seen as un-Islamic, as debate grows over the role of religion and women in the country that unleashed the Arab Spring uprisings.

Radicals on social media networks called on the government to strip Habiba Ghribi, the first Tunisian woman to win an Olympic medal, of her nationality because her running gear was too revealing. She won the silver in the 3,000-meter steeplechase.

And a Facebook campaign by extremist group Ansar al Chariaa is targeting swimmer Oussama Mellouli for drinking juice before racing during the Muslim holy month of Ramadan. Mellouli won gold in the 10-kilometer marathon and bronze in the 1,500-meter freestyle.
Tunisia is run by a moderate Islamist-led government that is facing increasing challenges from religious extremists

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No it is to you and your bull shit...here is another!

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Could you describe the bullshit ?

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So, if you stop w/ the cute picture show, and try to converse in a mature, adult manner...

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
So, if you stop w/ the cute picture show, and try to converse in a mature, adult manner...

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You have proven time and time again you can't do that.

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But, I will give it one last chance.

One, the Koran does say what the president is quoted in saying, he is also right that it does not say it in the bible. You are trying to equate what the ideology of Islam is and what radical sects and Islamic governments say and do. It is no different that when Christians do thing that don't come close to matching what the bible and Jesus says.

Second, Jefferson may very well read the Koran to help win the war. Part of winning war is gaining support for your side. So what the President said does not really conflict with what you did.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
2nd part first... What Obama said absolutely does conflict with why Jefferson bought a copy of the Koran. I don't see how you can say otherwise. He wanted to know his enemy, what drove them, what he was getting into. He wasn't trying to win over anyone or convert them. Where are you getting this ?

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How Islam is PRACTICED today, around the world, is what I'm talking about. Show me where, in Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, or Iran, women are seen as anywhere CLOSE to being treated as equals ? And yet here Obama is, praising Islam, and holding it up as the idea, as being better for women than even his " own " religion.

And were has Obama been critical of what's in the Koran, as he's criticized what's in the Bible ?

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Granted the article tries to spin facts but it is there.

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And you think that, because it's in the article, you should just blindly follow along ? Even after admitting to the spin ? Sorry, I'm not gonna play that game.

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Jefferson didn't buy a Koran to enlighten himself and revel in the diversity of other religions. He was trying to figure out what made the enemy tick. It's a completely different view of Jefferson and his motives than is being played out in the story or what Obama was trying to sell. And Obama was flat out wrong in claiming Jefferson held the first *Ishtar dinner.

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And I doubt very much that the Muslims from those 'radical' places, you know, like the entire Middle East, think that the US is a model for how Islam should be practiced. To the contrary, from the Philippines to Mecca, the radicalization of Islam is exactly what the followers of Sharia Law have in mind.

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And don't tell me what my 'next post' should be, after I'm the one who's trying to engage here, and not post childish pics.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Either you're being incredibly dense on purpose, or simply missing the point I'm making, due to past prejudices towards me.

The ARTICLE, and what Obama says, both leave the impression to anyone not familiar w/ Jefferson and his war w/ the Barbary Pirates , that owning a copy of the Koran was Jefferson's display of open mindedness, and diversity towards other religions, and an attempt to embrace Islam.

It was not. It seems that, at least on this point, you agree. THAT is the point I'm trying to make here.

I didn't HALF address the issue, you HALF misunderstood what I was saying.

I offered up no straw man, so your decision to resort to juvenile antics, is all on you.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

What Obama said absolutely does conflict with why Jefferson bought a copy of the Koran. I don't see how you can say otherwise. He wanted to know his enemy, what drove them, what he was getting into. He wasn't trying to win over anyone or convert them. Where are you getting this ?

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Thomas Jefferson led the fight for religious freedom and separation of church and state in his native Virginia. This brought him into conflict with the Anglican Church, the established church in Virginia. After a long and bitter debate, Jefferson's statute for religious freedom passed the state legislature. In Jefferson's words, there was now "freedom for the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and the Mohammedan, the Hindu and infidel of every denomination." When the First Amendment to the Constitution went into effect in 1791, Jefferson's principle of separation of church and state became part of the supreme law of the land.

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The Founding Fathers were very much respectful of religions because they believed in the freedom of religion, all religions.

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Once again, you're misunderstanding me, and adding something which I didn't say... I'm not denying that the FF were cool with all folks being allowed to practice their religion ( 1st Amendment and all , right ? ), but that's NOT what Jefferson's buying of the Koran was about. The article , and Obama, both have it wrong.

That's all I'm saying here.

Sheesh.

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The Founding Fathers were very much respectful of religions because they believed in the freedom of religion, all religions.

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Once again, you're misunderstanding me, and adding something which I didn't say... I'm not denying that the FF were cool with all folks being allowed to practice their religion ( 1st Amendment and all , right ? ), but that's NOT what Jefferson's buying of the Koran was about. The article , and Obama, both have it wrong.

That's all I'm saying here.

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Originally posted by Storymark:
The is the face I now see when I read a Rappy post.



And this is what happens in every one of his nbonsensical tantrum threads:





"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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