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Paul Ryan now says his office requested stimulus funds after he claimed repeatedly that he didn't

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Saturday, August 18, 2012 6:27 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)





Paul Ryan now says his office requested stimulus funds

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SPRINGFIELD, Va. – After initially denying he had requested stimulus funds, GOP vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan has acknowledged that his office had sought the money for his Wisconsin congressional district and took responsibility for it.

“After having these letters called to my attention I checked into them, and they were treated as constituent service requests in the same way matters involving Social Security or Veterans Affairs are handled,” Ryan said in a statement late Thursday. “This is why I didn't recall the letters earlier.”

Ryan said he would take responsibility for the way the letters were handled, but said “it's clear that the Obama stimulus did nothing to stimulate the economy, and now the president is asking to do it all over again.”

The Wall Street Journal raised controversy over this issue with a 2010 story detailing how Ryan and other Republicans hustled to get money for their districts after fighting stimulus funding. Then, a story this week in the Boston Globe revealed that Ryan’s congressional office wrote four letters to Energy Secretary Steven Chu on behalf of two Wisconsin conservation groups. One group received a $20-million grant from the stimulus bill to help businesses and homes become more energy efficient.

Ryan had been asked repeatedly about the difference between his rhetoric and actions, including during an interview with a Cincinnati television station earlier this week.

"I never asked for stimulus," he told Cincinnati's WCPO-TV. "I don't recall — and I haven't seen this report so I really can't comment on it. I opposed the stimulus because it doesn't work.”

Congressional offices frequently write letters on behalf of constituents. Ryan seems to be implying that this request was handled in such a way that he was not made aware of it.

The new vice presidential pick has come under fire for seemingly reversing his positions on a number of issues. He was questioned at a hot dog stand in Ohio on Thursday about why he now criticizes the president for cutting $716 billion from Medicare, when his own budget plan proposed similar cuts.

Friday morning, in Virginia, he criticized the White House for placing too many restrictions on small businesses, but had voted against a 2010 bill that loosened regulations for small businesses and that made it easier for them to get money.

Ryan, an advocate for smaller government, often opposes spending.

“One of the key things we have to do if we want to get this economy back on track -- we have to cut spending,” he said earlier this week. “We can't keep spending money we don’t have.”

alana.semuels@latimes.com




http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-paul-ryan-now-says-his-offi
ce-requested-stimulus-funds-20120817,0,1393813.story






"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."


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Saturday, August 18, 2012 7:02 AM

HKCAVALIER


What the HELL is the matter with these people? Do they really think we won't find out? What a weasel: "Stimulus bad, bad, bad! (Oh, well, thank you very much--can always use the extra cash.) Stimulus bad, bad, bad! (pause) What." It's comedy. That's the thing they always do, they play act "fiscal conservatism" and then dive into the cash with both hands.

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Saturday, August 18, 2012 7:53 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


I've been wondering the same thing, Cav. The goofs they've made are SO damned silly, and surely they can't be stupid enough to think things won't be found out, yet they go right on. Seems to me they were pretty off the mark/stupid to pick Ryan in the first place...between the Medicare kerfuffle, his backing of both the personhood AND ultrasound bills, his having voted for the war and everything ELSE Dubya put up, this stimulus thing and gawd knows whatever they'll find, he seems like far more of a liability than a plus--and how could they NOT know about this stuff???

I see picking him only "bumped" Romney by one lousy point, poor baby. This campaign has seemed as much of a joke as the Republican primary...or maybe more like it, just a continuation of same. I'm kind of embarrassed for the Republicans; this has to be the worst job of picking candidates--Prez AND VP--that we've seen in a long time. Ryan also apparently got marks almost as low as Palin and, for heaven's sake, QUAYLE, as a pick. What's going on? I just can't believe the Republicans are this inept, I keep wondering what the conspiracy theory is that they'll pull out of their hat at the last minute. It just doesn't seem real. Weird.


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Saturday, August 18, 2012 10:03 AM

FREMDFIRMA


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Originally posted by HKCavalier:
What the HELL is the matter with these people? Do they really think we won't find out? What a weasel: "Stimulus bad, bad, bad! (Oh, well, thank you very much--can always use the extra cash.) Stimulus bad, bad, bad! (pause) What." It's comedy. That's the thing they always do, they play act "fiscal conservatism" and then dive into the cash with both hands.


Seriously.

Where the hell you think Rappy gets it from - they're fundamentally INCAPABLE of even imagining a world where they're ever wrong, much less living in one.

I'm tellin ya, it's a mental illness, is what it is.

-Frem

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Saturday, August 18, 2012 2:49 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


And y'know, I can handle it if they want to stand on the stump and yell "Stimulus bad! Stimulus no worky! Very bad!" It's politics; it's what they have to do.

But when they're saying that, voting against it, and then going begging for the money CLAIMING IT WILL CREATE JOBS, that's the part that rubs me the wrong way.




"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Saturday, August 18, 2012 6:54 PM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT


This is why Romney announced Ryan early. He isn't really committed to the guy. If bad news comes out before the convention, he can dump Ryan, say he was a mistake, a Palin, and replace him with Jeb Bush or Dick Cheney, and the voters will buy it as an improvement.

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Saturday, August 18, 2012 7:24 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Seriously?? Aside from those two choices, which are bad enough (Chris Christie, on the other hand, sounds like just about the "red meat" they'd want...); wouldn't that just make Romney look even weaker than he already DOES? Or were you joking...


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Sunday, August 19, 2012 2:39 AM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT


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Originally posted by Niki2:
Seriously?? Aside from those two choices, which are bad enough (Chris Christie, on the other hand, sounds like just about the "red meat" they'd want...); wouldn't that just make Romney look even weaker than he already DOES? Or were you joking...



Joking about the 2 choices, but the rest is accurate. Ol' Mitt isn't really officially committed until the Convention. Ryan COULD be the biggest test balloon ever, and Mitt could just walk away, perfectly legal and proper. And if Ryan looks bad enough by then, anybody else would look like an improvement.

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Sunday, August 19, 2012 3:19 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Wow. Just wow. I should think it would make Romney look like the Biggest Flip-Flopper in History, and be worse than keeping him on the ticket. Kinda like taking the flack for not releasing tax returns is better than releasing them and the world finding out what's in 'em...y'know?

Or would that just make no difference to the Repubs? I mean the ones voting, not the ones making the decisions... I should think that would massively disenfranchise the Tea Partiers and fringers, which is pretty much the majority of what he's got left, isn't it?


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Sunday, August 19, 2012 3:41 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Here's Paul Ryan, who has claimed repeatedly that he DID NOT ask for any stimulus money, in a signed letter asking for stimulus money BECAUSE IT WILL CREATE JOBS:







"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Sunday, August 19, 2012 3:44 AM

MAL4PREZ


More of the same up on Huffpost this morning. Unfortunately, the article about Ryan posted a video of Bush talking (wtf? Hello, huffpost!?!) I'm still looking for an actual video or recording of Ryan saying this, but all I've found is a direct quote without the huffpost edits and commentary:

Paul Ryan, in 2002 about Bush's stimulus bill:

"What we're trying to accomplish today with the passage of this 3rd stimulus package is to create jobs and help the unemployed. What we're trying to accomplish is to pass the kinds of legislation that when they've passed in the past have grown the economy and gotten people back to work. In recessions unemployment lags on well after a recovery has taken place....

"We've got to get the engine of economic growth growing again because we now know, because of recession, we don't have the revenues that we wanted to, we don't have the revenues we need, to fix Medicare, to fix Social Security, to fix these issues. We've got to get Americans back to work. Then the surpluses come back, then the jobs come back. That is the constructive answer we're trying to accomplish here on, yes, a bipartisan basis. I urge members to drop the demagoguery and to pass this bill to help us work together to get the American people back to work and help those people who've lost their jobs....

"We have a lot of laid off workers, and more layoffs are occurring. And we know, as a historical fact, that even if our economy begins to slowly recover, unemployment is going to linger on and on well after that recovery takes place. What we have been trying to do starting in October and into December and now is to try and get people back to work. The things we're trying to pass in this bill are the time-tested, proven, bipartisan solutions to get businesses to stop laying off people, to hire people back, and to help those people who have lost their jobs. ....

"It's more than just giving someone an unemployment check. It's also helping those people with their health insurance while they've lost their jobs and more important than just that unemployment check, it's to do what we can to give people a paycheck."


My oh my, how Ryan changes his tune when a Democrat is POTUS!

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Sunday, August 19, 2012 6:27 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


But of course. This surprises you? Probably not. Given that many of the things the Tea Party Congress has been so adamantly AGAINST are things they either supported under Dubya or PROPOSED themselves, there's no surprise there.


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Sunday, August 19, 2012 11:27 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)



As with so many things, it's just not a good idea until a Republican has it.



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Sunday, August 19, 2012 3:26 PM

MAL4PREZ


OK, Huffpost has finally gotten their shit together and posted the video of Ryan making his impassioned pro-stimulus argument in the House in 2002. Direct quote regarding deficit spending: "You have to spend a little to grow a little." Really. He said that. (When Bush was president, of course.)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/19/paul-ryan-bush-stimulus_n_180
3761.html


Oh, to be a fly on the wall in the Romney/Ryan campaign headquarters as they watch this. Spin, baby, spin, if you can think of a way.

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Sunday, August 19, 2012 6:09 PM

HKCAVALIER


Aw Mal4,

That is priceless. Mitt Romney needs to get control of his surrogate's...um..impassioned speeches in support of everything they abhor! lol

HKCavalier

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

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