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However, if you want to hate all those you mentioned, you'll have to keep going backwards in time and spread that hate to virtually all Presidents and administrations, 'cuz this is how we roll and always have.

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but so far, only these guys...



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It appears to be a joke. We have entered a new and frightening direction for the board.

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Geezer, I think you missed the point of the vid. It wasn't to trash Bush (primarily), but to show that the same people who were in Bush's administration are part of Romney's team. So you were a little bit hasty getting into 'Trash Bush? Trash Obama!' mode.

It's not personal. It's just war.

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Geezer, I think you missed the point of the vid. It wasn't to trash Bush (primarily), but to show that the same people who were in Bush's administration are part of Romney's team. So you were a little bit hasty getting into 'Trash Bush? Trash Obama!' mode.

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Thing is, it's easy to make such videos about pretty much any politician or party. Just like it's easy to take photos and stick partisan captions on them.

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However, if you determine your vote, as Mike suggests you do, based exclusively on such things, are you really doing due diligence as a voter?

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However, if you determine your vote, as Mike suggests you do,

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Which he did exactly no-where. Just another in a stream of lies from our oldest sack of go-se.

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Well worth a watch. You'll laugh. You'll think. You'll vote.

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Then you are blinded by your own nihilism.

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Cynicism, not nihilism, Storymark. Believing that both parties of the American political system are hopelessly corrupt is not at all the same as believing that the outcome, impacts, or morality of our actions and lives are completely insignificant.

For example, I am a classic cynic, and I suspect that both Frem and DT are as well.

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Which he did exactly no-where. Just another in a stream of lies from our oldest sack of go-se.

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Well worth a watch. You'll laugh. You'll think. You'll vote.

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Story, you may have to turn in your "Honorary Troll King" badge if you don't get your head out of your assumptions a bit more.

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You yourself said that you see the system as hoplessly corrupt. If that is the case what we do is pretty much insignificant.

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“There are two great powers, and they’ve been fighting since time began. Every advance in human life, every scrap of knowledge and wisdom and decency we have has been torn by one side from the teeth of the other. Every little increase in human freedom has been fought over ferociously between those who want us to know more and be wiser and stronger, and those who want us to obey and be humble and submit.”
Philip Pullman - The Subtle Knife

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You yourself said that you see the system as hoplessly corrupt. If that is the case what we do is pretty much insignificant.

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No. It is absolutely not insignificant. Our LIVES are not synonymous with OUR SYSTEM OF GOVERNANCE.

(As a side note, I edited out DT and Frem being classic cynics because looking at that description there are things they'd probably disagree with. However, it depends on the interpretation)

In any case, I would STRONGLY disagree with being called a nihilist, as that implies that I'm amoral. As someone who cares deeply about morality and altruism, it could be construed as an insult.

I am a cynic, and that is also probably the term Storymark was looking for.

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Most commonly, nihilism is presented in the form of existential nihilism, which argues that life is without objective meaning, purpose, or intrinsic value. Moral nihilists assert that morality does not inherently exist, and that any established moral values are abstractly contrived. Nihilism can also take epistemological or metaphysical/ontological forms, meaning respectively that, in some aspect, knowledge is not possible, or that reality does not actually exist.

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Nietzsche characterized nihilism as emptying the world and especially human existence of meaning, purpose, comprehensible truth, or essential value. This observation stems in part from Nietzsche's perspectivism, or his notion that "knowledge" is always by someone of some thing: it is always bound by perspective, and it is never mere fact. Rather, there are interpretations through which we understand the world and give it meaning. Interpreting is something we can not go without; in fact, it is something we need.

One way of interpreting the world is through morality, as one of the fundamental ways in which people make sense of the world, especially in regard to their own thoughts and actions. Nietzsche distinguishes a morality that is strong or healthy, meaning that the person in question is aware that he constructs it himself, from weak morality, where the interpretation is projected on to something external. Regardless of its strength, morality presents us with meaning, whether this is created or 'implanted,' which helps us get through life. This is exactly why Nietzsche states that nihilism as "absolute valuelessness" or "nothing has meaning" is dangerous, or even "the danger of dangers": it is through valuation that people survive and endure the danger, pain and hardships they face in life. The complete destruction of all meaning and all values would lead to an existence of apathy and stillness, where positive actions, affirmative actions, would be replaced by a state of reaction and destruction.

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Fuck off, Geezer. You're as scummy as the Raptard.

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I tend towards more of a Buddhist take on the universe: Nothing you do is very important, but it is very important that you do it.

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There can't possibly be any meaning in this world. But isn't that wonderful in its own right? Because if there isn't any, we can find our own.
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I tend towards more of a Buddhist take on the universe: Nothing you do is very important, but it is very important that you do it.

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Of course, once found, we use our will to then impose it upon an uncaring universe, to CREATE meaning, and meaningful things - while some use their will to destroy.
I stand against those, I always have.

-Frem

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Honestly, I expect to fail, early and rather drastically. People might wonder why I continue. But, there will be others like me, more created as the stresses and tensions of the situation demands. I'm insignificant, but the cause and the other people aren't.

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Depends on the specific school of nihilism

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