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Biden Accuses Romney-Ryan Of $500 TRILLION TAX CUT!

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Friday, October 26, 2012 11:29 AM

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http://nation.foxnews.com/joe-biden/2012/10/26/video-biden-accuses-rom
ney-500-trillion-tax-cut



Vice President Joe Biden claims at a campaign event in Wisconsin that Republicans voted for a "$500 Trillion Tax Cut"

"But you can't erase what you've already done, they've voted to extend tax cuts for the very wealthy, giving a $500 trillion dollar tax-cut to 120,000 families


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Friday, October 26, 2012 3:30 PM

JONGSSTRAW



At least he apparently knew what state he was in this time. On Wednesday he addressed a rally in Ohio, but he said Iowa in his speech. The supporters behind him look to be silently squirming, especially the girl at the top right who looks side to side as if she's thinking... Am I the only one who heard that?








...And some Biden blasts from the past...






...And I'm sorry Debbie, but it seems you are going to have to deal with Florida's electoral votes going to Romney this time. He's up 5-6 points, and most analysts have ceded the state to the Republican. And somewhere in that turn-around are a lot of un-happy with Obama Jews.



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Friday, October 26, 2012 3:45 PM

NIKI2

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BIDEN MADE A BOO-BOO?!?!?!



QUICK! STOP THE PRESSES....hold the front page....slather the internet...it's a BIG STORY!!!

Geez, it wouldn't be a Friday if good ole' Joe hadn't opened mouth and inserted foot...what's the fun in that?


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Friday, October 26, 2012 3:52 PM

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*sniff sniff *

Smell that? It's desperation in the air... coming from too much Eau de Joe !

ROFLMAO !!

500 TRILLION DOLLARS !!!




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Saturday, October 27, 2012 2:47 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Meanwhile, Iowa GOP senator Chuck Grassley endorsed President Obama.

“We will put America on a new path to a new day with a new President Obama." - Chuck Grassley (R-IA)


Yes, he really said that.



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

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Saturday, October 27, 2012 3:49 AM

NIKI2

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Oh, HIM...


It's "gaffe time" fer shore. All these guys gotta be running on empty at this point; just WATCHING THEM makes me exhausted! We may have quite a few more giggles before this is over.

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Saturday, October 27, 2012 3:57 AM

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The difference between Biden and Trump ? Trump knows what the hell he's talking about, concerning 5 MILLION dollars, where as Biden has no clue. Not of what he's saying, or where he is.


Or, for Biden, it's just another Tuesday.

( Regardless of which day it is for the rest of us )



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Saturday, October 27, 2012 10:53 AM

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Hasn't our right-wing parrot complained a few times about "libruls" making mountains out of molehills? I seem to remember that...

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Saturday, October 27, 2012 11:54 AM

M52NICKERSON

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Not that the other side does not tell fairly tails...oh wait...

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/oct/26/mitt-ro
mney/romney-says-obama-plans-4000-tax-hike-middle-class
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Saturday, October 27, 2012 12:29 PM

NIKI2

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Wow, "Pants on Fire", eh? Tch!, tch.

I thought the Biden thing was a gaffe--he didn't really MEAN that, surely? But the Romney thing is no gaffe, from what I read, so they're not quite the same thing, are they...

Man, these guys are getting away with fucking EVERYTHING this year. I hate it, because it will probably set a precedent for future elections, and that sucks big time.

Baaad Romney. Bad, bad Romney...

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Saturday, October 27, 2012 3:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:Hasn't our right-wing parrot complained a few times about "libruls" making mountains out of molehills? I seem to remember that...




No. I'm just getting started.

The murder of American citizens, serving in the line of duty, and then trying to cover that murder up, with a fabricated fairy tale of ANOTHER US citizen doing absolutely nothing wrong but exercising his 1st Amendment Rights, which had NOTHING to do w/ the deaths of the other Americans...

Pretty much makes you an enemy of the state.



And btw Niki - Your font color SUCKS !


It always has.



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Saturday, October 27, 2012 3:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
The murder of American citizens, serving in the line of duty, and then trying to cover that murder up, with a fabricated fairy tale of ANOTHER US citizen doing absolutely nothing wrong but exercising his 1st Amendment Rights, which had NOTHING to do w/ the deaths of the other Americans...

Pretty much makes you an enemy of the state.



Everyone look out Rappy is putting is fake patriotism hat on again. Right now I bet he is listening to "God Bless the USA" and weeping softly while wrapped in a US flag.

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Saturday, October 27, 2012 3:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by m52nickerson:
Everyone look out Rappy is putting is fake patriotism hat on again. Right now I bet he is listening to "God Bless the USA" and weeping softly while wrapped in a US flag.



Yes. Everyone look.

4 Americans died, while Obama and his staff sat, watched, and did absolutely nothing.


Think about that, and then go vote.



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Saturday, October 27, 2012 3:44 PM

M52NICKERSON

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Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Yes. Everyone look.

4 Americans died, while Obama and his staff sat, watched, and did absolutely nothing.



Yes, because Fox news and some unidentified source told you that right.

Or perhaps they did the smart thing and not put more people in danger. Sometimes real leadership is that hard. It not all making shit up and chanting USA, USA, USA!!!!

Hell this image alone should get some simpletons like you to vote for the President.



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Saturday, October 27, 2012 3:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by m52nickerson:
Yes, because Fox news and some unidentified source told you that right.



http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/26/father-of-slain-seal-tyrone-woods-ac
cuses-white-house-of-murder-video
/

Actually, genius, it was the father of Tyrone Woods, who told the story he didn't even WANT to tell, but felt compelled to, because this administration was lying.

Asshole.




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Saturday, October 27, 2012 3:53 PM

M52NICKERSON

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Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by m52nickerson:
Yes, because Fox news and some unidentified source told you that right.



http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/26/father-of-slain-seal-tyrone-woods-ac
cuses-white-house-of-murder-video
/

Actually, genius, it was the father of Tyrone Woods, who told the story he didn't even WANT to tell, but felt compelled to, because this administration was lying.



...and he is getting his information from where? How does he know anyone is lying?

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Saturday, October 27, 2012 4:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by m52nickerson:

...and he is getting his information from where? How does he know anyone is lying?




Where is he getting his info that his son died at the machine gun turret , defending his position ?

Oh, gee. I dunno. Maybe Sean Hannity told him.





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Saturday, October 27, 2012 5:19 PM

M52NICKERSON

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Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
[Where is he getting his info that his son died at the machine gun turret , defending his position ?

Oh, gee. I dunno. Maybe Sean Hannity told him.



If that is the case he's an idiot. No one should believe Hannity, he's a living piece of trash.

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Saturday, October 27, 2012 5:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by m52nickerson:

If that is the case he's an idiot. No one should believe Hannity, he's a living piece of trash.



You're calling the father of a murdered Navy SEAL an idiot.


Adding to the fact that you actually thought, for more than a nano second, that I was being SERIOUS as to Hannity being the "source " of all this ?

There aren't enough levels of stupid for you to sink to, are there ? As you reach the bottom, you INSIST on digging past yet ANOTHER level.

Totally unpossible!


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Saturday, October 27, 2012 5:48 PM

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Than I ask again, who told him? Where did the information come from?

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Saturday, October 27, 2012 6:19 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by m52nickerson:
Everyone look out Rappy is putting is fake patriotism hat on again. Right now I bet he is listening to "God Bless the USA" and weeping softly while wrapped in a US flag.



Yes. Everyone look.

4 Americans died, while Obama and his staff sat, watched, and did absolutely nothing.




I thought you said he was in bed, asleep.


Was he in bed asleep, or was he sitting and watching?





"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Saturday, October 27, 2012 6:22 PM

M52NICKERSON

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He is going to the Fox news site right now looking for an answer to that!

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Saturday, October 27, 2012 6:25 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
Hasn't our right-wing parrot complained a few times about "libruls" making mountains out of molehills? I seem to remember that...

Tit for tat got us where we are today. If we want to be grownups, we need to resist the ugliness. If we each did, this would be a better reflection on Firefly and a more welcome place. I will try.




Hey, when I posted one of Romney's myriad gaffes, Rappy told me I was " lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing." He was sure that it had never happened. Then, when shown how wrong he was, he couldn't apologize or admit a mistake, not to me, never to me - instead he went off on a rant about how petty it is to point out a candidate's gaffes. I guess he meant it's petty to point out a REPUBLICAN candidate's gaffes.

Meanwhile, I haven't seen one single person here claim that Biden never said the words Rappy posted.

That's the difference between right and left, I guess - we'll admit that things actually happened, while teabagging nutsacks like Rappy never can admit that such things even happened. Nope, in their world, if you point out the gaffes of their chosen ones, you MUST be lying, making shit up.



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Sunday, October 28, 2012 1:42 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

The difference between Biden and Trump ? Trump knows what the hell he's talking about, concerning 5 MILLION dollars, where as Biden has no clue. Not of what he's saying, or where he is.





Here's Trump showing he "knows what the hell he's talking about"...



Any questions?



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"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Sunday, October 28, 2012 3:45 AM

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Red herring, per ties and shirts made in China.

The issue here is that Trump has 5 million $s he's willing to donate to the charity of Obama's choice.


It's pretty straight forward, actually.






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Sunday, October 28, 2012 4:07 AM

NIKI2

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Sorry, but I can't help but laugh. Let's see, this thread started by Raptor as a gaffe by Biden. That wasn't good enough, so he moved it to Obama and his admin. sitting and WATCHING Americans get killed in Libya. Apparently THAT wasn't sufficient, because he then moved it to "the issue here" being Donald Trump's idiocy.



Poor darling, he just CAN'T think/talk about anything that isn't anti-Dem related...it's so sad. Oh, and Rap, your MENTALITY sucks. Always has.
And you're rude.

Sorry; trying to be civil, but idiotic is idiotic, and snark deserves snark.

Tit for tat got us where we are today. If we want to be grownups, we need to resist the ugliness. If we each did, this would be a better reflection on Firefly and a more welcome place. I will try.

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Sunday, October 28, 2012 4:24 AM

AURAPTOR

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Niki - you can't stand that I'm right, and that bugs the ever living hell out of you.

Biden is mentally deficient, and there's no real denying that. He's a complete lout and an imbecile.

Pointing that out, as well as this administration's betrayal of Americans over seas, who were under attack, has you completely hogtied. There's absolutely no defense for it, at all, so instead, you feel the need to lash out at ME, personally.


Juvenile, facile and pathetic, is what you're displaying yourself as, Niki.

It's also very sad.



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Sunday, October 28, 2012 5:18 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Biden is mentally deficient, and there's no real denying that. He's a complete lout and an imbecile.



I would not say that to loud since he whipped the hell out of Ryan in the VP debate.

http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/joe-biden-vp-debate-
meme.jpeg



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Sunday, October 28, 2012 5:22 AM

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nickerson... Biden did not such thing. He was boorish, rude and arrogant, but that didn't equate to a win.

Ryan was civil and polite, which I guess to you, was a sign of weakness.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Sunday, October 28, 2012 5:45 AM

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ETA: It occurred to me afterward and I got a giggle out of realizing that Rap said my font color sucks, always has. Given it was originally one thing, I changed it down the line, and now I just changed it again to be more readable (because of something someone said), I guess ANY color I chose to post in would suck to him. Big surprise: Not.

It's amusing, too, to see how vituperative Rap gets about/at me, and says he bugs the living hell out of me, and that I'm "Juvenile, facile and pathetic". I wonder why my mild comments bring on such an angry response...like maybe it's not me who is so bugged?

I would like him to note that I am once again making a sincere attempt to stick to the subjects and not get personal. I even apologized for my previous snark; it's just that some of the things he writes are SO over the top, I couldn't resist. Nonetheless, I refrained from calling him nasty names and would never, never tell him to go fuck himself. I will continue to laugh at his more absurd entries, but given he's decried the nastiness against him here, he just MIGHT want to compare how we relate to one another from here on...just a suggestion. You know, kinda like "If we want to be grownups, we need to resist the ugliness".

I can't do anything about the past, but I can try to change future exchanges. But that we all could (she says condescendingly ;o) ).

And lastly, no, he certainly don't bug the hell out of me, as I've said before. Nobody here does, and even (was his name Kane?) didn't. This place could never become important enough to get upset about. I find him petty and sadly amusing, absolutely nothing more. That he views me so strongly, and interprets my comments so dramatically, speaks far more about him than me. And I would never, never tell him to go fuck himself, just for the record.

Tit for tat got us where we are today. If we want to be grownups, we need to resist the ugliness. If we each did, this would be a better reflection on Firefly and a more welcome place. I will try.

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Sunday, October 28, 2012 5:58 AM

M52NICKERSON

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Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
nickerson... Biden did not such thing. He was boorish, rude and arrogant, but that didn't equate to a win.

Ryan was civil and polite, which I guess to you, was a sign of weakness.



http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57531059/poll-biden-takes-debate-o
ver-ryan-uncommitted-voters-say/?tag=categoryDoorTopNews;catDoorTopNews




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