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Disgruntled Tepublicans vow to move to Australia
Thursday, November 8, 2012 9:02 AM
MAGONSDAUGHTER
Thursday, November 8, 2012 9:14 AM
ANTHONYT
Freedom is Important because People are Important
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Thursday, November 8, 2012 9:56 AM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Thursday, November 8, 2012 10:00 AM
Quote:It's gonna get bad here. Real bad.
Thursday, November 8, 2012 10:07 AM
Quote:Originally posted by ANTHONYT: Quote:It's gonna get bad here. Real bad. On this I agree, and the only cure for the badness is for the GOP to evac. --Anthony
Thursday, November 8, 2012 10:10 AM
Quote:Originally posted by ANTHONYT: Quote:It's gonna get bad here. Real bad. Hello, On this I agree, and the only cure for the badness is for the GOP to evac. --Anthony
Thursday, November 8, 2012 10:11 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: How will a bunch of rich guys leaving help ? Who the hell will pay the taxes for all the Govt benefits then ?"
Thursday, November 8, 2012 10:12 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Magonsdaughter: Do the wealthy pay tax in America?
Thursday, November 8, 2012 10:42 AM
NEWOLDBROWNCOAT
Thursday, November 8, 2012 11:00 AM
Thursday, November 8, 2012 11:07 AM
Thursday, November 8, 2012 11:10 AM
HKCAVALIER
Thursday, November 8, 2012 11:17 AM
STORYMARK
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: When some Hollywood elites started mouthing off about leaving the country if W won
Thursday, November 8, 2012 11:19 AM
Thursday, November 8, 2012 11:22 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: When some Hollywood elites started mouthing off about leaving the country if W won Such as? (To everyone else, I know, I know... asking rappy for citation, probably wasting my time) Excuse me while I soak in all these sweet, sweet conservative tears. "We will never have the elite, smart people on our side." -- Rick "Frothy" Santorum "Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"
Thursday, November 8, 2012 11:30 AM
Quote:Originally posted by ANTHONYT: Hello Cavalier, Always a pleasure. While I may agree with you, it does not serve my purposes to admit to it here. Here, our goal should be (with apologies to Australia) to encourage the idea that these few individuals are precious as diamonds, that they will get the last laugh, and that we will be righteously destroyed by their departure. If only they will make good on their offers and go. --Anthony Note to Self: Raptor - woman testifying about birth control is a slut (the term applies.) Six - Wow, isn't Niki quite the CUNT? And, yes, I spell that in all caps.... Wulf - Niki is a stupid fucking bitch who should hurry up and die. “The stupid neither forgive nor forget; the naive forgive and forget; the wise forgive but do not forget.” -Thomas Szasz
Thursday, November 8, 2012 11:35 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Magonsdaughter: Quote:Originally posted by ANTHONYT: Hello Cavalier, Always a pleasure. While I may agree with you, it does not serve my purposes to admit to it here. Here, our goal should be (with apologies to Australia) to encourage the idea that these few individuals are precious as diamonds, that they will get the last laugh, and that we will be righteously destroyed by their departure. If only they will make good on their offers and go. --Anthony Note to Self: Raptor - woman testifying about birth control is a slut (the term applies.) Six - Wow, isn't Niki quite the CUNT? And, yes, I spell that in all caps.... Wulf - Niki is a stupid fucking bitch who should hurry up and die. “The stupid neither forgive nor forget; the naive forgive and forget; the wise forgive but do not forget.” -Thomas Szasz They really wouldn't like it here. Heavy gun restrictions No capital punishment Abortion is readily available (as is contraception) Public health care system High taxation that is graduated depending on income Oh and a female Prime Minister who is not married (lives with partner) and an atheist. But no gay marriage (yet)
Thursday, November 8, 2012 11:41 AM
Quote:Originally posted by HKCavalier: Hey Anthony (good to see you!), Ayn Rand's logic is perhaps the most specious in history. So, all the wealthiest people simply leave and the country goes to hell 'cause, lord knows, nobody else knows the first thing about making money?
Thursday, November 8, 2012 12:02 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: When some Hollywood elites started mouthing off about leaving the country if W won Such as? (To everyone else, I know, I know... asking rappy for citation, probably wasting my time)
Thursday, November 8, 2012 12:10 PM
Thursday, November 8, 2012 12:14 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: When some Hollywood elites started mouthing off about leaving the country if W won Such as? (To everyone else, I know, I know... asking rappy for citation, probably wasting my time) Alec Baldwin Robert Altman Eddie Vedder... Others, like Cher, Barbara Streisand, Lynn Redgrave ( deceased ), were rumored to have threatened to leave, but those claims were never confirmed. Pierre Salinger ( deceased ) , who wasn't specifically 'Hollywood', was still a Democratic celeb, of note, fulfilled his promise. Whttp:// www.snopes.com/inboxer/outrage/leave.asp " I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "
Thursday, November 8, 2012 12:26 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: Ok, you came through. I stand corrected. But, really, do you think those threatening to leave on the right are really doing any more than posturing?
Thursday, November 8, 2012 1:52 PM
RIONAEIRE
Beir bua agus beannacht
Thursday, November 8, 2012 1:57 PM
Quote:Originally posted by RionaEire: I'm sure Australia has rules about people moving in, its not like they can just show up or something, that will be up to Australia, and most of them won't do it anyways, just like all those celebs who were going to move to Canada in 04 but didn't. "A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya
Quote:But keep in mind, unlike many Hollywood celebs, these folks are no where near the prima donna's , just pining for attention. Like I said... we may not know their names, or even the companies they run, but if they do pull up and 'Shrug', it's going to cause some ripples.
Thursday, November 8, 2012 2:01 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by RionaEire: I'm sure Australia has rules about people moving in, its not like they can just show up or something, that will be up to Australia, and most of them won't do it anyways, just like all those celebs who were going to move to Canada in 04 but didn't. "A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya Very strict, or they were, 10 years ago. You need to have a sponsor, and if you plan to work, need to show how anyone hiring you can justify it over hiring an Auzzie. Of course, if folks are coming to retire, and have no plans on taking a job, but instead just spend money... that might be different. Least, that's how it was explained to me from some guys I know who lived here for a short time.
Thursday, November 8, 2012 2:03 PM
Thursday, November 8, 2012 2:08 PM
Quote: Seems if you really want to go somewhere where the government is based on religious intolerance, gays are outlawed, abortion is murder, etc
Thursday, November 8, 2012 2:20 PM
Quote:that's just a glimmer into the lies you believe about conservatives, and what they care about.
Thursday, November 8, 2012 3:42 PM
Quote: People would understand the GOP better if their representatives stopped talking about all these things you claim to be lies.
Thursday, November 8, 2012 3:52 PM
Quote:And point of fact, it's only a tiny fraction of a small % of elected officials who have said the things you blame ALL members of the GOP, and ALL who have, "may " have voted for them, at some time.
Quote:who have, "may" have voted for them at some time
Quote: if lying works for you, then that's super!
Thursday, November 8, 2012 4:35 PM
Quote: All members of the GOP suffer from the 'small percentage' who say these terrible things and the 'large percentage' who fail to properly condemn them
Thursday, November 8, 2012 4:40 PM
Quote:Ok, fine, you wanna play that game? ALL MUSLIMS suffer from the small % who do terrible things and the large percentage who fail to properly condemn them.
Quote:Or do you want to just admit , once again, you're wrong, that what Akin said about rape has zero bearing on the issue of Americans wanting to leave the country under a Marxists loving Obama.
Thursday, November 8, 2012 5:20 PM
Thursday, November 8, 2012 5:35 PM
Thursday, November 8, 2012 5:36 PM
Thursday, November 8, 2012 5:44 PM
Thursday, November 8, 2012 6:38 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: I never A. Said I was gonna leave,
Quote: B. Approved or supported bugging out of country if the commie horde took over. I just relayed and commented on as to what others were saying.
Quote: Rush VOWED to leave , if Obama won ? Really? Cite, please.
Quote: Wook at you...all twisted with spit and venom, after your lord and savor Barry eeked by , for a 2nd term. Good for you! Feel good about yourself, kwickie !
Quote: Quote: Seems if you really want to go somewhere where the government is based on religious intolerance, gays are outlawed, abortion is murder, etc Who says anyone who wishes to escape Obama has any of the concerns you listed ? I think that's just a glimmer into the lies you believe about conservatives, and what they care about.
Thursday, November 8, 2012 6:46 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote: People would understand the GOP better if their representatives stopped talking about all these things you claim to be lies.
Quote: And point of fact, it's only a tiny fraction of a small % of elected officials who have said the things you blame ALL members of the GOP, and ALL who have, "may " have voted for them, at some time. And those officials? Most were ASKED about those issues, weren't offering it , and some stuck their foot in their mouths. Apologies were made. Didn't matter, the " damage " had been done. They didn't embezzle, didn't cheat on anyone, didn't break any laws, just said some stupid stuff. Or,in some cases, didn't say anything 'stupid' at all, but because of the shark frenzy mindset of the MSM, which loves to blow stories way out of proportion, a false narrative gets born.
Quote: But hey, if lying works for you, then that's super!
Thursday, November 8, 2012 6:56 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: I'm sure this isn't even a little related... Pratt and Whitney Rocketdyne cuts Valley workforce 11-7-2012 Rocket engine manufacturer Pratt & Whitney Rocketdyne Inc. cut 100 salaried and hourly positions Wednesday as a response to an uncertain future of the space industry and the general economic climate.
Quote: U.S. Cellular to sell Chicago customers to Sprint, shed hundreds of local jobs 11-7-2012 "In Chicago, it’s about 160," Dillon said. "In the greater Chicago area, about 680 and overall a little over a thousand associates (will lose jobs)."
Quote: Nextel to cut 20% of jobs at Virginia headquarters 11-7-2012
Quote: NII Holdings, which operates mobile services under the Nextel brand in Latin America, announced that it is taking actions to realign certain resources and roles between its headquarters and market units in order to create a stronger and more agile organization, and to facilitate future growth. As part of this strategy, the company is reassigning select positions located at its headquarters to its operations in Latin America and eliminating certain positions at its corporate headquarters in Virginia (US).
Quote: Nearly 200 'family-sustaining' jobs to be lost as HarperCollins plans to close warehouse 11-7-2012 HarperCollins Publishers will close its warehouse and distribution operation in Throop next summer and put close to 200 people out of work.
Quote: Hawker Beechjet to shed jobs 11-7-2012 Layoff notices will be sent to about 410 Hawker Beechcraft employees, as the company plans to close facilities in three locations and shut down its business jet production.
Thursday, November 8, 2012 6:58 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Magonsdaughter: Quote:Originally posted by RionaEire: I'm sure Australia has rules about people moving in, its not like they can just show up or something, that will be up to Australia, and most of them won't do it anyways, just like all those celebs who were going to move to Canada in 04 but didn't. "A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya Yes we have very strict rules. No more right wingers allowed in the country as we have enough of our own and we are on strict quotas.
Friday, November 9, 2012 3:25 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Magonsdaughter: Rap reminds me of the hysteria surrounding the introduction of the carbon tax, and how the end was nigh, of course espoused by rightwingers in the media. The day came and went. The world hasn't ended.
Friday, November 9, 2012 5:03 AM
BYTEMITE
Friday, November 9, 2012 8:25 AM
Quote:Originally posted by ANTHONYT: Quote:Ok, fine, you wanna play that game? ALL MUSLIMS suffer from the small % who do terrible things and the large percentage who fail to properly condemn them. Hello, Is this supposed to be absurd? Quote:Or do you want to just admit , once again, you're wrong, that what Akin said about rape has zero bearing on the issue of Americans wanting to leave the country under a Marxists loving Obama. Did I connect the promised exodus to Aikin's comments? Could you show me where? --Anthony Note to Self: Raptor - woman testifying about birth control is a slut (the term applies.) Six - Wow, isn't Niki quite the CUNT? And, yes, I spell that in all caps.... Wulf - Niki is a stupid fucking bitch who should hurry up and die. “The stupid neither forgive nor forget; the naive forgive and forget; the wise forgive but do not forget.” -Thomas Szasz
Friday, November 9, 2012 9:51 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Because the carbon tax was never implemented, here in the US. Which has a population roughly 14x that of Australia. Carbon tax is a woeful scam. Unnecessary, excessive intrusion into the lives of individuals, by an over bearing federal govt. " I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "
Friday, November 9, 2012 10:19 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote: Do the wealthy pay tax in America?
Quote: All members of the GOP suffer from the 'small percentage' who say these terrible things and the 'large percentage' who fail to properly condemn them.
Quote: ALL MUSLIMS suffer from the small % who do terrible things and the large percentage who fail to properly condemn them.
Quote: Yes we have very strict rules. No more right wingers allowed in the country as we have enough of our own and we are on strict quotas.
Quote: Rap reminds me of the hysteria surrounding the introduction of the carbon tax, and how the end was nigh, of course espoused by rightwingers in the media. The day came and went. The world hasn't ended.
Quote: People who wish to retire in Australia must be over the age of 55. With the exception of your spouse, who does not need to over 55 to qualify, you cannot have any dependents. People who apply for the standard retirement visa will be awarded a temporary visa in the first instance, which is valid for four years. After this period has lapsed, the visa can then be renewed on a two year rolling basis. In order to qualify you will be required to demonstrate that you are in good health and have no previous criminal convictions. If you are looking for a longer-term retirement visa you may choose to apply for a permanent retirement visa. In order to qualify for this you will need to adhere to stricter rules and regulations. Permanent Australian visas are viewed as investment visas and for this reason you will be required to demonstrate that you possess assets of a pre-determined value. This value will vary according to which area of Australia you wish to retire. However, a general rule of thumb is as follows: High Growth Region: $750,000 worth of assets and an additional $500,000 for any dependent (spouse). Low Growth Region: $500,0000 worth of assets and an additional $250,000 for any dependent (spouse). You will be required to demonstrate that you have owned these assets for a minimum of two years prior to applying for a permanent Australian visa. http://www.expatinfodesk.com/expat-guide/retiring-abroad/best-places/australia-as-a-retirement-destination/
Quote: Heavy gun restrictions No capital punishment Abortion is readily available (as is contraception) Public health care system High taxation that is graduated depending on income
Friday, November 9, 2012 2:10 PM
Friday, November 9, 2012 4:32 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Magonsdaughter: But it was implemented here in Australia, and the threatened end of world scenarios meant to accompany it have not materialised. The Right love their fear mongering around any government policy implemented by the Left. Did a great job of stirring up the hysteria, for no apparent reason.
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