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A FEW are fighting back against Norquist's anti-tax pledge
Friday, November 23, 2012 5:36 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:A top Republican U.S. senator brushed off the anti-tax pledge pushed by activist Grover Norquist and embraced widely for years by GOP lawmakers. "I care more about my country than I do about a 20-year-old pledge," Sen. Saxby Chambliss told Georgia television station WMAZ, a CNN affiliate, on Wednesday. "If we do it his way, then we'll continue in debt and I just have a disagreement with him about that."Much more at http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/11/22/chambliss-fires-off-on-norquists-anti-tax-pledge/?hpt=hp_t2
Quote:Many GOP candidates who ran for office also signed the promise, but earlier this year, a small number of freshman lawmakers rejected the idea that they were bound to the document.
Quote:Asked if Chambliss is concerned Norquist may use his resources to combat a re-election bid, the senator said, "In all likelihood, yes." "But I don't worry about that because I care too much about my country," he said. "I care a lot more about it than I do Grover Norquist." The two-term senator from Georgia added he's "willing to do the right thing and let the political consequences take care of themselves."
Friday, November 23, 2012 5:52 AM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Friday, November 23, 2012 6:25 AM
Quote:we need none like him.
Friday, November 23, 2012 6:28 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: Quote:we need none like him. I fully agree, when it comes to Norquist.
Friday, November 23, 2012 11:03 AM
KPO
Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.
Quote:More revenue and less spending are what we need, not to give MORE of our $ to the govt.
Friday, November 23, 2012 11:54 AM
Quote:Originally posted by kpo: Quote:More revenue and less spending are what we need, not to give MORE of our $ to the govt. You're aware you're contradicting yourself there? It's not personal. It's just war.
Friday, November 23, 2012 12:25 PM
MAGONSDAUGHTER
Friday, November 23, 2012 12:47 PM
JONGSSTRAW
Friday, November 23, 2012 12:58 PM
Quote: No one's tax rate will have changed, and all the deductions we peons take are still intact.
Friday, November 23, 2012 1:14 PM
Friday, November 23, 2012 1:18 PM
Friday, November 23, 2012 1:24 PM
Friday, November 23, 2012 1:53 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Jongsstraw: The best idea I've heard for increasing revenue to the IRS lately is the one about capping tax deductions. Just a simple limit on total deductions at 25k or 50k wouldn't hurt 99% of us, but it would effectively do away with lavish and exotic business and personal type deductions such as travel, trucks, autos, medical, charity, etc. Charity should come from the heart, not the IRS. And the means of conducting business shouldn't be just written off and paid for by the Govt. The Govt. shouldn't have to subsidize company vehicles, gasoline, business travel, hotels, and fancy restaurant dinners. Add in some oil industry subsidy reductions, and voila, the IRS is collecting beaucoup dollars. No one's tax rate will have changed, and all the deductions we peons take are still intact. ps...Norquist is a big fat politically suicidal douche. The so-called pledges to him are chillingly repulsive to me, and the whole thing smells like political fascism. We need more Tea Party candidates like we need more boils and tumors on our face. I wonder how many Angles, O'Donnells, Akins, Mourdocks, et al are ready to sprout out of the insane asylum cabbage patch even as I type this.
Friday, November 23, 2012 1:55 PM
Friday, November 23, 2012 2:12 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by kpo: Quote:More revenue and less spending are what we need, not to give MORE of our $ to the govt. You're aware you're contradicting yourself there? It's not personal. It's just war. No, I'm not. But thanks for falling for that crassic trap. More people working, paying INTO the system, and not taking out of it, results in increased revenue. Raising more revenue doesn't necessarily mean raising taxes. Keep the taxes where they are, and cloing some more loop holes, would also result in more revenue.
Friday, November 23, 2012 3:02 PM
Friday, November 23, 2012 3:47 PM
Saturday, November 24, 2012 7:21 AM
Monday, November 26, 2012 7:18 AM
Quote:Warren Buffett, the second-richest man in the U.S., pressed his call for more taxes on the wealthy by mocking the idea that higher rates discourage investment. Legislators should increase taxes on those earning more than $500,000, including minimum rates of at least 30 percent on all income above $1 million, Buffett said in an opinion piece in the New York Times today. U.S. lawmakers returning this week from the Thanksgiving recess are seeking a budget deal to avoid a so-called fiscal cliff with more than $600 billion in tax hikes and spending cuts set to begin in January. Republicans including Mitt Romney, the defeated presidential candidate, and Grover Norquist, who encourages lawmakers to sign a pledge shunning tax increases, have said lower rates can boost the U.S. economy. “Let’s forget about the rich and ultrarich going on strike and stuffing their ample funds under their mattresses if -- gasp -- capital gains rates and ordinary income rates are increased,” Buffett wrote. “Only in Grover Norquist’s imagination does such a response exist.” Buffett, worth $46.5 billion according to data compiled by Bloomberg, is using his clout to urge Congress and Obama to include measures that raise revenue as part of a deal to resolve the fiscal cliff, which may push the U.S. economy back into recession. “We need to get rid of arrangements like ‘carried interest’ that enable income from labor to be magically converted into capital gains,” Buffett, chairman of Berkshire Hathaway Inc. (BRK/A), wrote. “And it’s sickening that a Cayman Islands mail drop can be central to tax maneuvering by wealthy individuals and corporations.” Romney’s returns show investments in funds located around the world, including Ireland, the Cayman Islands and Bermuda. The former governor of Massachusetts has said it is fair for him to pay a lower tax rate than a worker making the median annual income of about $50,000. “It’s the right way to encourage economic growth, to get people to invest, to start businesses, to put people to work,” Romney said in an interview with “60 Minutes” on CBS, broadcast on Sept. 23. Romney, who paid a 14.1 percent tax rate on $13.7 million in income last year, makes most of his income from investing a fortune estimated at $250 million. Buffett has said his tax rate is the lowest among the about 20 employees at Berkshire’s headquarters in Omaha, Nebraska. Capital gains from most assets held for longer than a year are taxed at a top rate of 15 percent, while wage income is taxed at a top rate of 35 percent. The difference between those two accounts for Buffett’s lower rate. Buffett managed funds for investors from 1956 to 1969 through partnerships. Taxes never led any of his clients to forgo an investment during that period, he wrote today, even though the capital gains rate was as high as 27.5 percent and the top marginal rate was at least 70 percent. “Under those burdensome rates, moreover, both employment and the gross domestic product increased at a rapid clip,” Buffett wrote. “The middle class and the rich alike gained ground.” http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-11-26/buffett-mocks-norquist-idea-on-taxes-thwarting-investment.html
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