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Mississippi Learning: Why the State's Students Start Behind — and Stay Behind
Friday, November 30, 2012 6:52 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:When school begins next month in Mississippi, Akeeleon Lewis will head to kindergarten for the second time. He started school last fall not knowing his colors or numbers. "He couldn't even hold a pencil," says Judy Packer, his kindergarten teacher at McNeal Elementary School in Canton, a city of 13,000 about 30 miles northeast of the state capital in Jackson. Akeeleon was one of about 10 percent of kindergarteners kept back at McNeal when the school year ended in May, a rate twice the national average. Before he arrived at McNeal, he hadn't played much with children his age or ever set foot in a classroom. Thirty years after Mississippi established statewide kindergarten and made school attendance compulsory starting in first grade, classroom readiness remains a major obstacle to student success in this state, which has the highest rate of childhood poverty in the country and test scores that are consistently among the nation's worst. Although neighboring states have made great strides in early education, Mississippi remains the only state in the South — and just one of 11 in the country — that doesn't fund any pre-k programs. Researchers have found that high-quality pre-k programs can improve long-term outcomes for low-income children and help close an achievement gap for minorities that tends to worsen over time. Being able to stand in line, listen to directions or make eye contact with the teacher play in an important role when it comes time to try to teach kids how to read and write. And a lack of school readiness is evident the minute children walk in on the first day of kindergarten, says Kaye Sowell, who has taught for 30 years in Rankin County. "I've had to chase children into the street," she says. "I have kids who don't know their given name and can't recognize it in print. They can't go through the lunch line without holding it up. You can't fathom it unless you've lived it." Failure to prepare children for kindergarten or first grade costs the state a lot of money. One of every 14 kindergarteners and one of every 15 first-graders in Mississippi repeated the school year in 2008, the most recent year for which statistics are available. From 1999 to 2008, the state spent $383 million on children who had to repeat kindergarten or first grade, according to the Southern Education Foundation. Children like Akeeleon start so far behind they may never catch up, and those who repeat one or more grades are much more likely than their classmates to drop out of school, decades of research have shown. The state's academic results — abysmal by just about any measurement — don't improve as the children grow older. In 2011, the state's fourth-graders were outperformed on the reading portion of the National Assessment of Educational Progress by their peers in 44 states. In math, they finished second to last in the nation, ahead only of fourth-graders in the District of Columbia. Just 61 percent of Mississippi's students graduate from high school on time — more than 10 percentage points below the national average. Mississippi found itself at the bottom again this week, ranking 50th on six of the 10 national indicators of child well-being in a report released by the Annie E. Casey Foundation. Over the years, countless committees, taskforces and politicians in the state have argued that investing in pre-k will improve high-school graduation rates and build a more highly educated workforce in Mississippi. Retired military leaders added their voices in May, calling for state-funded pre-k to help prepare the more than 75 percent of young Mississippi residents who are ineligible to join the military because, among other reasons, they failed to graduate from high school on time. But legislators have held firm in the belief that the economically depressed state cannot afford pre-k. Nationally over the past decade, enrollment in pre-k programs has soared even as state funding has declined by more than $700 per child, according to the National Institute for Early Education Research.Much more at http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2120539,00.html
Friday, November 30, 2012 8:28 AM
FREMDFIRMA
Quote: One more log on the fire for a state we've already got issues with. Not that it'll see much progress, but I will punt that one to Gus since he's already down there and knows better than I which ivory towers to shake about it - we're STILL dealing with that hellspawned mess in Meridian... http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/24/justice/mississippi-civil-rights-lawsuit/index.html Throwin kids in prison for dress code violations, seriously ? And this bullshit besides, poor kids get it comin and going, taking into account the original topic all too often born unwelcome and unwanted, and then chucked into the school-to-prison pipeline, too many of them along the way thanks to lack of education, access to contraception and being mentally screwed up enough already to just not care - feeding the cycle. If ever some people DESERVED to have Al Sharpton sicced on em, it's the bastards behind all this. And I am sorely tempted to help that right on along, I am. -Frem
Friday, November 30, 2012 2:14 PM
RIONAEIRE
Beir bua agus beannacht
Friday, November 30, 2012 4:41 PM
GEEZER
Keep the Shiny side up
Saturday, December 1, 2012 2:15 AM
KPO
Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.
Saturday, December 1, 2012 3:20 AM
Quote:Originally posted by kpo: Could you articulate your point Geezer?
Saturday, December 1, 2012 5:25 AM
Quote: Parent involvement takes on a very different meaning when I see the parents of my students every week ringing me up in the grocery store, rinsing me out at the beauty shop, tuning up my car at the local garage, or delivering my mail. I worship with them, bowl with them, sit in the waiting rooms with them. I know them, and they trust me. Trust is the issue with most parents. Here in the Delta, over 40% of the adults are illiterate; others have had very little formal education. Even those who finished school often had to do it over significant obstacles. Some parents had horrible educational experiences as children, particularly in the period of transition from the segregated schools. Like our urban colleagues, we have increasing numbers of parents who speak little or no English. Many of our parents simply trust us to do what is best for their children because we are the professionals. Principal Shannon Flounnory of Stonewall Tell Elementary School in College Park, Georgia puts it this way: “High levels of parental involvement would be an outstanding asset, but if we don’t get it, then we still have a responsibility to the students we serve.” As part of a classroom research project several years ago, I interviewed many parents and set up a response group. They repeatedly expressed dismay over the increasing number of adults working in the schools who did not take the time to know their children as individuals or to care about them as persons. My husband and I have raised 11 children, all of whom attended public school. Every one of them had different abilities, talents, personalities, and habits. We tried to help their teachers understand how best to work with each of them, but we also expected their teachers to learn about our children for themselves and work with each one appropriately. The good teachers did; the lazy ones wouldn’t. Despite years of studies and initiatives, educators and administrators across the country are still wringing their hands and shaking their heads over the need for “more parental involvement in our public schools.” But what exactly do we educators mean by “parental involvement”? Two common scenarios seem to prevail: #1. Send us your child: Clean, well-dressed, fed, disciplined, obedient, eager-to-learn, cooperative, and (preferably) already reading, counting, and computer literate. In 12 years (give or take a few months), we’ll send the little darling back to you ready to use that college trust fund. #2. Come to school when we call you and deal with your child (this usually means there is a disciplinary problem); send money, supplies, science fair project boards, and your signature when required. You may come on parent night or to special events. That’s not always what we get, of course. What about… The parent who believes public education means the public gets to run it. The parent who wants to approve lesson plans, classroom rules, and the reading list. The parent who questions the necessity and logic of homework or class assignments. The parent who demands to see staff credentials, has a copy of the curriculum guide, and highlights the school’s published report card, noting deficiencies. The parent who has the principal’s cell phone number and that of the school board president on speed dial. The parent who visits the classroom frequently--and stays. The parent who never misses PTA meeting and always has questions, suggestions, or criticisms for the staff. When I hear fellow educators lamenting the lack of parental involvement and blaming parents for not supporting their children’s education, I wonder which of these scenarios they’d rather see? There are some places where meaningful parental involvement is routine. In those places where it is not, there are reasons--and some of those reasons are us, the educators. If we had genuine parental involvement from the majority of our parents, how many of us could really take the pressure? Some of the best and brightest students I have ever taught had parents who were not just dysfunctional; they were dangerous. Conversely, some of the lowest performing students I know of had parents who were passionately interested in their education. Many things can hinder effective parental involvement; not the least of which is the unwelcoming attitudes of educators or the limits we put on when and how we want parental input. How many educators are using lack of parental involvement (or, lack of the kind of involvement we would like) as an excuse for low expectations and minimal instruction, particularly for the children of the poor or children of color? http://www.learningfirst.org/ReneeMooreParentInvolvement
Saturday, December 1, 2012 10:08 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Geezer: I don't know about you, but I figure I got a pretty good education(without attending kindergarten or pre-K), and have been able to have a pretty good life because my parents made sure I was doing my school work and knew how to behave around other folks. How someone can leave this important factor entirely out of the education equation is puzzling.
Saturday, December 1, 2012 2:02 PM
Quote:Somehow I doubt that putting kids in Kindergarten and pre-K is gonna do much good if they don't have support for learning socialization skills and some dicipline at home.
Quote:How someone can leave this important factor entirely out of the education equation is puzzling.
Sunday, December 2, 2012 5:16 AM
Sunday, December 2, 2012 8:53 AM
Quote:Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA: Your parents could AFFORD to do so. My parent worked 12-14 hour days with a 2+ hour commute and as a result I wound up more or less running the household from a single digit age, and I was not at all alone in this, latchkey children are more a problem than they ever were and no one wants to talk about that either - when a parent is too overworked (and this was, eventually the primary factor in that parents death, via stress, lack of medical care and mental health degradation) trying to keep food on the table and a roof over their heads to even see to their OWN needs, one can hardly expect the best of parenting from them. Involve THAT factor, and we'll discuss it. Easy to cast blame from on-high, not so easy from Down Here.
Sunday, December 2, 2012 8:55 AM
Quote:Originally posted by kpo: You may as well theorise that planes, man-made hunks of metal, 'will never fly'. To suggest that Mississipians are just worse parents than the rest of the country seems like a bizzarely harsh line to take...
Sunday, December 2, 2012 10:13 AM
Sunday, December 2, 2012 3:01 PM
Quote:Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA: Geeze, I concur that a love of reading is a tremendous gift, one of the better ones that any parent can offer - as a small and curious child I would read ANYTHING (including at one point a whole damn set of Encyclopedia Britannica picked up at a yard sale) and that has benefitted me greatly. Tis also why I go psychotic at closing libraries in impoverished neighborhoods (like Baltimore did to buy that stupid football team), cause it deprives the poor of that advantage. -Frem
Sunday, December 2, 2012 5:12 PM
MAGONSDAUGHTER
Monday, December 3, 2012 8:30 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Magonsdaughter: Personally, I'd rather follow the Scandanavian model, which is little early years education and a late start to school. Any early years learning is purely play based and as informal as possible. Allowing kids to have unstructured play, to develop social skills through play, to develop their creativity unhindered by competitiveness are crucial to later outcomes, both educational, social, and emotional. Formal education has this tendancy to narrow the focus to results driven, competitive, learning and all that wonderful creativity of childhood can be easily trampled. Scandanavia has some of the best academic outcomes in the world, btw. They are also, by and large extremely prosperous nations.
Quote:OSLO (Reuters) - Norway's Crown Princess Mette-Marit secretly traveled to India in order to care for infant twins born to the surrogate mother of a gay palace employee unable to get a travel visa, the palace said on Monday. Armed with a diplomatic passport that granted her immediate access, the future queen jumped on a plane in late October when the employee, who is also a friend, and his husband were unable to travel to care for their newborns. "For me, this is about two babies lying alone in a New Delhi hospital," Mette-Marit said in a statement. "I was able to travel and wanted to do what I could." She did not alert Indian authorities and spent several days with the babies at the Manav Medicare Centre, where staff assumed the wife of Norway's Crown Prince Haakon was a nanny. While the princess was away, her name continued to appear in the official palace calendar and her absence from a parliamentary dinner was not explained. A relative of the two fathers eventually took over from Mette-Marit and the fathers received a visa in November, when they brought the babies back to Norway, the palace added. Surrogacy is a hotly debated issue in Norway and the government discourages Norwegians from paying surrogate parents for children. Protestant Norway was the second country in the world in 1993 to register same sex partnerships while same sex marriage has been legal since 2009. The Crown Princess acknowledged the debate and insisted she is not taking a side and only did what a friend had to do. "Sometimes life presents you with situations with few good solutions. This was one of those," she said. "There is an important debate going on about surrogacy and this was not meant as taking a side."
Monday, December 3, 2012 10:23 AM
Monday, December 3, 2012 11:05 AM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Monday, December 3, 2012 11:17 AM
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Tuesday, December 4, 2012 6:33 AM
Tuesday, December 4, 2012 7:59 AM
Quote:Did the children make bad choices being born in poverty to illiterate parents?
Quote:And what I hoped to argue for is a genuine example from the historical past - how it was that not only did government spending on behalf the the poor in the form of public education help the children - it didn't bankrupt the country, it enriched the lives of those children, and it enriched the country as a whole.
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