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He was for solving the debt problem, before he was against it.
Tuesday, January 22, 2013 1:12 PM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Tuesday, January 22, 2013 2:09 PM
ARLO
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Tuesday, January 22, 2013 2:47 PM
JONGSSTRAW
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: " Mr. President, I rise today to talk about America’s debt problem. The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that ‘‘the buck stops here.’’ Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better. I therefore intend to oppose the effort to increase America’s debt limit. " - Guess who ?
Tuesday, January 22, 2013 3:46 PM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Tuesday, January 22, 2013 4:28 PM
Tuesday, January 22, 2013 5:00 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Jongsstraw: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: " Mr. President, I rise today to talk about America’s debt problem. The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that ‘‘the buck stops here.’’ Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better. I therefore intend to oppose the effort to increase America’s debt limit. " - Guess who ? Ooh ooh, I should know this. Okay, I'm pretty sure it's one of three people. But I really don't know for sure. I wish I had chosen the first grade question instead of the third grade one. Yeah, I'll take a cheat and go with the fifth grade class answer. C'mon guys, I really need your help. "BARACK OBAMA" Correct? Oh wow! That $125 is really gonna make the Mrs. happy!
Tuesday, January 22, 2013 5:40 PM
GEEZER
Keep the Shiny side up
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: "Deficits don't matter." Who said it? Anyone?
Tuesday, January 22, 2013 5:54 PM
Tuesday, January 22, 2013 6:02 PM
Tuesday, January 22, 2013 6:13 PM
Wednesday, January 23, 2013 5:07 AM
Wednesday, January 23, 2013 7:52 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Geezer, don't confuse Kwickie w/ the facts. You know how it upsets him so.
Wednesday, January 23, 2013 8:05 AM
Wednesday, January 23, 2013 8:26 AM
Wednesday, January 23, 2013 8:45 AM
Wednesday, January 23, 2013 10:31 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Nothing but baseless & distorted ad hominems.
Wednesday, January 23, 2013 11:29 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Nothing but baseless & distorted ad hominems. The fact that they make you embarrassed and uncomfortable doesn't make them baseless, distorted, or ad hominems.
Wednesday, January 23, 2013 1:17 PM
Wednesday, January 23, 2013 1:32 PM
Wednesday, January 23, 2013 6:45 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: You got Cheney's quote completely wrong, and you claiming other wise shows just how utterly and totally deluded you are. *foam spittle foam* Cheney wasn't saying deficits are fine as a matter of fiscal POLICY, but that they don't play into the elect-ability of candidates. *foam spittle foam* And Barry is proof of exactly that. *foam spittle foam* Making Cheney exactly right. And you pathetically wrong. *foam spittle foam* Again. *stomp stomp stomp*
Thursday, January 24, 2013 5:38 AM
Thursday, January 24, 2013 6:13 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Arlo, perhaps you should grow up.
Thursday, January 24, 2013 6:19 AM
Thursday, January 24, 2013 6:27 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: You're the child whose argument was to do nothing more than to interject juvenile comments into my quotes, and now you claim some sort of maturity superiority ? Crassic.
Thursday, January 24, 2013 7:30 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:You've likely given up trying to be the mature, logical, example-setting creature that would actually give your critique of others credence long ago since that bar obviously takes effort.
Quote:Former Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill was told "deficits don't matter" when he warned of a looming fiscal crisis. O'Neill, fired in a shakeup of Bush's economic team in December 2002, raised objections to a new round of tax cuts and said the president balked at his more aggressive plan to combat corporate crime after a string of accounting scandals because of opposition from "the corporate crowd," a key constituency. O'Neill said he tried to warn Vice President Dick Cheney that growing budget deficits-expected to top $500 billion this fiscal year alone-posed a threat to the economy. Cheney cut him off. "You know, Paul, Reagan proved deficits don't matter," he said, according to excerpts. Cheney continued: "We won the midterms (congressional elections). This is our due." A month later, Cheney told the Treasury secretary he was fired. http://www.ontheissues.org/2004/Dick_Cheney_Budget_+_Economy.htm
Thursday, January 24, 2013 11:57 AM
M52NICKERSON
DALEK!
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: " Mr. President, I rise today to talk about America’s debt problem. The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that ‘‘the buck stops here.’’ Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better. I therefore intend to oppose the effort to increase America’s debt limit. "
Thursday, January 24, 2013 1:04 PM
Quote: When was this said Rappy, what date? I have no doubt he said it but the date it was said is important
Thursday, January 24, 2013 1:18 PM
Thursday, January 24, 2013 1:20 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Arlo, as evidenced by your lame replies, you couldn't have an honest debate with me on anything before you sank into the standard, Left wing ad hominem ridiculousness.
Thursday, January 24, 2013 1:27 PM
Thursday, January 24, 2013 1:35 PM
Quote:As part of the 2011 Budget Control Act, Obama agreed to spending reductions of about $1.5 trillion over the next ten years. If you count the interest, the savings is actually $1.7 trillion. Boehner should have no problem remembering the details of that deal: As Greg Sargent points out, Boehner at the time actually gloated about the fact that the deal was "all spending cuts." http://www.tnr.com/blog/jonathan-cohn/110606/obama-deficit-reduction-offer-spending-cut-tax-increase-boehner#] The Republicans refused Obama's offer of yet MORE spending cuts to the tune of several hundred billion dollars with respect to the Fiscal Cliff, as well. Add those two together and it would have been more than $2 trillion in spending cuts. But of course the Republicans rejected his latest offer in hopes of keeping tax cuts for the rich (some of which they lost anyway), so we can't count that. Nonetheless, Quote:Cuts from the Budget Control Act will take discretionary spending (spending on agencies and programs that Congress must reauthorize every few years) as a share of gross domestic product down to its lowest level since early 1960s, when government first began keep tracking of it: Same None of this gets through his thick skull, which is so filled with right-wing talking points and which the brain inside of that thickness flatly refuses to actually engage its brain cells on its own. Eh, we all know Rap will start using his brain about Until then, juvenile, stupid, childish, lame, ridiculous--that's all he's got. Tit for tat got us where we are today. If we want to be grownups, we need to resist the ugliness. If we each did, this would be a better reflection on Firefly and a more welcome place. I will try.
Quote:Cuts from the Budget Control Act will take discretionary spending (spending on agencies and programs that Congress must reauthorize every few years) as a share of gross domestic product down to its lowest level since early 1960s, when government first began keep tracking of it: Same
Thursday, January 24, 2013 1:39 PM
Thursday, January 24, 2013 1:42 PM
Thursday, January 24, 2013 1:55 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Not 1 damn thing in your reply to anything I said was even at attempt to offer up a coherent, intelligent reply to well established facts.
Thursday, January 24, 2013 2:07 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: March 16, 2006, when Obama was a US Senator.
Friday, January 25, 2013 8:06 AM
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