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Originally posted by Hero:

Liberal want a comprehensive gun ban.

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
No, Liberal does NOT want a comprehensive gun ban. Nor do Liberals in general. Nor do I.

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Originally posted by Hero:

The NRA would go door to door too...offering you classes and training and the opportunity to safely exercise your rights.

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Originally posted by Hero:
In New York they rushed through an even more extreme measure into law. Ban...its what they want.

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
When reality doesn't go "Hero's" way, he's very happy to just make up his own "facts".

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Originally posted by penquin11:
Every time I read a forum I become more and more afraid that if I somehow screw up in my logic that an army of 6-7 liberals will come in and crush me into dust.

Anyways on the topic of Assault Rifle bans I will simply say that it doesn't make much sense from my perspective. Guns are only present in a fraction of violent crimes as it is (2%), and I believe that only 2% of that 2% of violent crimes with guns are with Assault Rifles (numbers inside of numbers- mathception). Moreover most high grade hunting rifles (the ones you see in magazines and such) are AR-15 mods, which may land them under the bans.... Anyways I haven't done a bunch of research, and I will admit that I don't quite know why anyone would ever need an assault rifle, however given the lack of statistics as it pertains to crime, I don't see an adeuquate reason to ban them...

"But who prays for Satan? Who, in eighteen centuries, has had the common humanity to pray for the one sinner that needed it the most?"- Mark Twain

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Originally posted by penquin11:
Anyways I haven't done a bunch of research, and I will admit that I don't quite know why anyone would ever need an assault rifle, however given the lack of statistics as it pertains to crime, I don't see an adequate reason to ban them...

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Honestly? Well, once or twice a year some nut shoots a bunch of people & kills most of em,

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Originally posted by Storymark:

Once or twice a year....? You might need to revise your stats a bit, Chris.

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Originally posted by penquin11:
Every time I read a forum I become more and more afraid that if I somehow screw up in my logic that an army of 6-7 liberals will come in and crush me into dust.

Anyways on the topic of Assault Rifle bans I will simply say that it doesn't make much sense from my perspective. Guns are only present in a fraction of violent crimes as it is (2%), and I believe that only 2% of that 2% of violent crimes with guns are with Assault Rifles (numbers inside of numbers- mathception). Moreover most high grade hunting rifles (the ones you see in magazines and such) are AR-15 mods, which may land them under the bans.... Anyways I haven't done a bunch of research, and I will admit that I don't quite know why anyone would ever need an assault rifle, however given the lack of statistics as it pertains to crime, I don't see an adeuquate reason to ban them...

"But who prays for Satan? Who, in eighteen centuries, has had the common humanity to pray for the one sinner that needed it the most?"- Mark Twain

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Their usage in overall crime is low, this is true. Their use in the ever-growing area of mass shootings is quite significantly higher.

And having some slips in your logic is fine - happens to us all. Its when after having such a slip, one then demand that it is ABSOLUTE, even in the face of clearly contradictory facts, and that everyone who doesn't agree with demonstrably false notions (we call them rapfacts in these parts) is a traitor intent on destroying 'Merica, that they end up in rappy/"hero" territory.

Ive seen no such tendencies from you, thankfully.




Excuse me while I soak in all these sweet, sweet conservative tears.

"We will never have the elite, smart people on our side." -- Rick "Frothy" Santorum

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Originally posted by Hero:
We already know from FBI statistics that the 1994 gun ban had no impact on the violent crime rate or shootings.

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Really. You "know" that, do ya?





Gosh, what's that sudden downturn that takes place around the time the AWB went into effect?

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After Sandy Hook the NRA came out suggesting that more gun control was not the answer. They proposed that there be more training, that teachers and other faculty should be allowed to carry if they choose. Most importantly they said that every school should have a police officer.

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And how are they proposing to pay for that?

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Liberal want a comprehensive gun ban.

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In Chicago, home of some of the most restrictive gun laws in the country there has been a massive increase in gun violence and ultimately this: www.cnn.com/2013/01/30/justice/illinois-teen-shot/index.htm

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Where are those guns being bought? In Chicago, or outside Chicago, where there's practically zero regulation?

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Seems to me the evidence is clear. Officer in every school and NO gun ban.

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Originally posted by Hero:

Its a comprehnsive gun ban.

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
That actually happened to me years ago on a duck hunting trip in Maryland with my friend George and his black lab Buck. I "always" kept my Remington automatic shotgun with the safety on...always! We were going down the Transquaking River and got out of the john boat to set up our blind along the bank. As I hit the bank I stumbled and my shotgun went off. I could not believe it, having always been so damned careful about that safety. I could have killed my friend and/or his dog, but luckily the blast went straight into the marshy mud. It scared the hell out of me.

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
That actually happened to me years ago on a duck hunting trip in Maryland with my friend George and his black lab Buck. I "always" kept my Remington automatic shotgun with the safety on...always! We were going down the Transquaking River and got out of the john boat to set up our blind along the bank. As I hit the bank I stumbled and my shotgun went off. I could not believe it, having always been so damned careful about that safety. I could have killed my friend and/or his dog, but luckily the blast went straight into the marshy mud. It scared the hell out of me.

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And now you know not to have a round in the chamber until you're in the blind and ready to shoot. You also have probably figured out that having a 'safety' is no substitute for common-sense gun handling rules, like never putting your finger on the trigger until you're ready to shoot, and always being aware of where the gun is pointed, even when you believe it's empty or on 'safe'.

If your shotgun fired without your finger on the trigger, I hope you took it to a qualifed gunsmith to have it fixed.

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Originally posted by Hero:


Seems to me the evidence is clear. Officer in every school and NO gun ban.

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Originally posted by Kwicko:

It'll be a sad day for this country if children can safely attend their classes only under the protection of armed guards.

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