GOP 'autopsy': We're too old, too white by Niki2

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GOP 'autopsy': We're too old, too white

POSTED BY: NIKI2
UPDATED: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 12:17
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Monday, March 18, 2013 9:11 AM

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

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The beleaguered Republican Party put into writing Monday what many of its top strategists and leaders have been saying since last year's election losses: The GOP is too old, too white, and too insular to win national contests.

In a months-in-the-making report – which tops out at 100 pages and includes hundreds of recommended fixes - the Republican National Committee acknowledges its messaging problems, identifies structural setbacks to the primary calendar and spells out how to target specific demographic groups that voted overwhelmingly for Democrats in 2012.

"The report notes the way we communicate our principles isn’t resonating widely enough," RNC Chairman Reince Priebus, who also happened to be celebrating his birthday, said at the report's release in Washington. "Focus groups described our party as 'narrow minded,' 'out of touch,' and 'Stuffy old men.' I’m only 41, by the way. Today."

"It all goes back to what our moms used to tell us: It's not just what we say; it's how we say it," Priebus continued. "The promise of opportunity will be our message, and a spirit of optimism will infuse everything that we do."More at http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/03/18/republicans-want-to-en
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It would be to laugh if it weren't too sad: "It's not what we believe, it's HOW WE SAY IT". Amazing.

Soooo, if they say it differently...in other words, lie, I guess?...they'll be winners, right?

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Monday, March 18, 2013 9:23 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Welcome back, Niki.... :)

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Monday, March 18, 2013 10:04 AM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT

Heard some elitist Democrat lib'ruls talkin' about this on NPR this morning. They noted that the real change was to decrease the number of debates, which they (the lib'ruls) opposed because the debates gave the voters some real insight into how the candidates really thought and reacted on their feet.

As they put it, the GOP establishment wants to get control of the nominating process back. Not sure from whom? The people? the Registered Republican voters? The lib'rul media conspiracy? The vote counters and Secretarys of States?

Reminds me of the stories about how the R leadership got together one off-year and decided that Bush 43 was gonna be the nominee. Sure 'nough, come primary season, there wasn't one- he ran practically unopposed and locked up the nomination by Super Tuesday. They'd probably love it if they could go back to the old, traditional "smoke filled room" dealer days.

Other than that, the party asked the election doctor what was wrong, the doctor told 'em and how to fix it, and they completely ignored what he said. " Doctor, I get a pain when I do this! " " Well, DON'T DO THAT! "

Ya have a heart attack from too much cholesteral, the doc says eat salads and healthy stuff, ya keep eatin' steak and fried foods, yer gonna be wheeled into the ER again.

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Monday, March 18, 2013 10:06 AM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT

Double posty-ness. Sorry about that...
Heard some elitist Democrat lib'ruls talkin' about this on NPR this morning. They noted that the real change was to decrease the number of debates, which they (the lib'ruls) opposed because the debates gave the voters some real insight into how the candidates really thought and reacted on their feet.

As they put it, the GOP establishment wants to get control of the nominating process back. Not sure from whom? The people? the Registered Republican voters? The lib'rul media conspiracy? The vote counters and Secretarys of States?

Reminds me of the stories about how the R leadership got together one off-year and decided that Bush 43 was gonna be the nominee. Sure 'nough, come primary season, there wasn't one- he ran practically unopposed and locked up the nomination by Super Tuesday. They'd probably love it if they could go back to the old, traditional "smoke filled room" dealer days.

Other than that, the party asked the election doctor what was wrong, the doctor told 'em and how to fix it, and they completely ignored what he said. " Doctor, I get a pain when I do this! " " Well, DON'T DO THAT! "

Ya have a heart attack from too much cholesteral, the doc says eat salads and healthy stuff, ya keep eatin' steak and fried foods, yer gonna be wheeled into the ER again.

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Monday, March 18, 2013 10:45 AM

STORYMARK

This is illustrated so very well by the race relations on display as CPAC. Their forum on how to dispell their racist image was beset by a group who felt the Confederacy wasn't getting enough attention! A black man, who honestly asked what they could do to help draw more black people to the party was screamed at, and forced to leave.

But no, it has nothing to do with thier views. Nope. Can't be.

Excuse me while I soak in all these sweet, sweet conservative tears.

"We will never have the elite, smart people on our side." -- Rick "Frothy" Santorum

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Monday, March 18, 2013 12:23 PM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT

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Originally posted by Storymark:
This is illustrated so very well by the race relations on display as CPAC. Their forum on how to dispell their racist image was beset by a group who felt the Confederacy wasn't getting enough attention! A black man, who honestly asked what they could do to help draw more black people to the party was screamed at, and forced to leave.

But no, it has nothing to do with thier views. Nope. Can't be.

Yeah, the GOP triangle of religious conservatives, military conservatives and economic conservatives has a fourth leg: white supremacists. It's always there, in their attitude toward black people, Latin Americans, especially immigrants, and Muslims. No matter how much it's rationalized by talking about illegal immigration, reverse discrimination, the war on terror, or Obama's birth certificate, it's not going away. As long as the GOP carries the old Confederacy in a solid bloc, white supremacy is still a factor, if not in party leadership, then in the mentality of the citizens who vote for it.

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Monday, March 18, 2013 12:29 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

Even worse, the white nationalist as much as told the black guy that they should be grateful they got free room and board when they were slaves. Hard to see why black voters aren't flocking to the GOP...

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Tuesday, March 19, 2013 8:32 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

What I would find interesting is exactly HOW they think they should change their message to be more effective. Their message has always been pretty clear as far as I can see, so how exactly do they think they can say it differently which will make it more attractive to the segments of American society which they have worked so diligently to PUSH AWAY??

No illegal immigrants (but no enforcement on businesses)
No gay equal rights (as in, no anti-discrimination laws against gays)
No gay marriage legalization (or adoption)
No abortion (and now OR contraception)
No Medicare/public option/Medicade/affordable healthcare
No Social Security (or any other safety nets for the middle class or poor)
Minimal government (how do they equate that with anti-abortion laws, etc.?)
No regulation
No unions
No affirmative action
No gun laws
No voting rights protection

Let's see...they're FOR..

Big military
Subsidies/tax breaks for corporations
Tax shelters for the rich
For-profit education
For-profit prisons
For-profit healthcare
For-profit _______________ (everything, I guess)

The list goes on and on and on...gonna take one heck of a wordsmith to make it sound like anything but exactly what it IS, seems to me... Quite a conundrum.

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Wednesday, March 20, 2013 6:49 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

What's amusing is they DO try to lie to make their agenda appeal more to minorities and such...trouble is they can't even lie well, the wording gives them away! As Mike said, they just don't seem to be able to help themselves, what they think comes out anyway...

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the white nationalist as much as told the black guy that they should be grateful they got free room and board when they were slaves. Hard to see why black voters aren't flocking to the GOP...

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Wednesday, March 20, 2013 12:17 PM

KWICKO

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Originally posted by Niki2:
What I would find interesting is exactly HOW they think they should change their message to be more effective. Their message has always been pretty clear as far as I can see, so how exactly do they think they can say it differently which will make it more attractive to the segments of American society which they have worked so diligently to PUSH AWAY??

No illegal immigrants (but no enforcement on businesses)
No gay equal rights (as in, no anti-discrimination laws against gays)
No gay marriage legalization (or adoption)
No abortion (and now OR contraception)
No Medicare/public option/Medicade/affordable healthcare
No Social Security (or any other safety nets for the middle class or poor)
Minimal government (how do they equate that with anti-abortion laws, etc.?)
No regulation
No unions
No affirmative action
No gun laws
No voting rights protection

Let's see...they're FOR..

Big military
Subsidies/tax breaks for corporations
Tax shelters for the rich
For-profit education
For-profit prisons
For-profit healthcare
For-profit _______________ (everything, I guess)

The list goes on and on and on...gonna take one heck of a wordsmith to make it sound like anything but exactly what it IS, seems to me... Quite a conundrum.

What does the GOP stand for? Control. Authoritarian big-government CONTROL. Look at abortion as just one issue. They're against abortion in all cases, everywhere, for everyone, even for rape victims. They're also now rushing to push laws that would ban contraception, but ONLY FOR WOMEN. There's been no push to outlaw condoms, no push to strengthen punishment for rapists (GOP stands behind the paternity rights of rapists, in many cases), no laws to do away with divorce or adultery.

It's all about controlling the women. If you can dictate whether or not a woman is allowed to conceive or forced to, then you can pretty much dictate all her other life choices just based on that.

Gay rights? According to the GOP, gays don't have any right to rights. Treating them as equal, as human beings, would be "giving them special rights", according to conservatives. Again, it's just a method to control people. Control who someone can marry, or whether they can adopt or raise children, and again, you've dictated many of their other life choices for them.

It's all about control, and the assumption that white men should always be in control.

I don't wonder why so few minorities vote for Republicans. I wonder why ANY minorities or women vote for them.

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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