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Originally posted by AURaptor:

" The assumptions/premises here seem to be: "

Funny. For so many reasons.

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Originally posted by Storymark:

Why, because its not as far fetched as the inane conclusions you tend to draw...?

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And PN thinks he's reasonable too.

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And he's just as accurate as your dumb ass.

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Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
This VanZant guy? Never heard of him. Followed the link back to the story, and there he is: he's an

old white Republican from FLORIDA



E-T-A: Well, DUH! on me. The header says that. Didn't read it clearly. Careless. It just doesn't say old or Florida. I'm not surprised from the tone of his message, though.

I'm gratified; it totally warms my heart; to see his concern for black people, and especially black women. What a pleasant surprise, given the history of his sex, his race, and his party, especially from THAT region.

Better be sure to tag that as SARCASM and IRONY, considering that some folks around here are too dumb to recognize it when they see it.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

" The assumptions/premises here seem to be: "

Funny. For so many reasons.

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
B/c Gosnell, allegedly performing illegal procedures, is exactly the same as PP performing legal ones.

I have to sat little rappy, you have really drunk deep of the kool-aid.

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Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
This VanZant guy? Never heard of him. Followed the link back to the story, and there he is: he's an

old white Republican from FLORIDA



E-T-A: Well, DUH! on me. The header says that. Didn't read it clearly. Careless. It just doesn't say old or Florida. I'm not surprised from the tone of his message, though.

I'm gratified; it totally warms my heart; to see his concern for black people, and especially black women. What a pleasant surprise, given the history of his sex, his race, and his party, especially from THAT region.

Better be sure to tag that as SARCASM and IRONY, considering that some folks around here are too dumb to recognize it when they see it.

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Stereotype much ?

You place individuals into the groups, the color of their skin, their sex, their religion... man. You've got it all figured out.

It was CHRISTIANS who were on the forefront of the abolition movement. It was REPUBLICANS , not Democrats, who ran the underground rail road.

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Originally posted by 1kiki:



This is the equation you drew - when we think of Planned Parenthood we are to think of Gosnell. You say that Planned Parenthood doing legal abortions is like Gosnell doing illegal ones. But that's not a fact, just your opinion. Once agin, you fail to distinguish between facts and opinions.

Maybe someday you'll learn, but if you haven't gotten it after all this time, it's not looking very hopeful for you.

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Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
If some Bubba from Florida validates the stereotype so perfectly, it is justified to use it.
And if you gotta go back to the 1850's , or even 1925, to drag up Republicans for your case, you're pretty desperate. What have Republicans done for the racial issue lately? One might consider Richard Nixon's "Southern strategy" of 1968, or the " Willie Horton" strategy in Massachusetts, as a more recent, more valid example of HOW THINGS ARE.

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
"Frankly, I don't give a flip about anyone's views on abortion. 1st trimester, if you want to 86 your fertilized tissue mass, by all means, have at it."

Does this apply to black women as well? Or is this your argument:

"So, the argument is that so many young black women are having abortions, killing off their unborn kids, just as Margaret Sanger dreamed would happen."

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Originally posted by AURaptor:


Willie Horton ? Spare me. That was originally Al Gore's doing.

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Originally posted by Niki2:

Just read through this entire thread. You people are actually RESPONDING to Rap? He's DEFENDING this piece of shit...you do realize that, don't you?

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Willie Horton ? Spare me. That was originally Al Gore's doing.

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The first person to mention the Massachusetts furlough program in the 1988 presidential campaign was Al Gore. During a debate before the New York primary, Gore took issue with the furlough program. However, he did not specifically mention the Horton incident or even his name, instead asking a general question about the Massachusetts furlough program.[7]

Republicans picked up the Horton issue after Dukakis clinched the nomination. In June 1988, Republican candidate George H.W. Bush seized on the Horton case, bringing it up repeatedly in campaign speeches. Bush's campaign manager, Lee Atwater, said "By the time we're finished, they're going to wonder whether Willie Horton is Dukakis' running mate."[8]
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On May 25, 1988, Republican consultants met in Paramus, New Jersey, holding a focus group of Democrats who had voted for Ronald Reagan in 1984. These focus groups convinced Atwater and the other Republican consultants that they should 'go negative' against Dukakis. Further information regarding the furlough came from aide Andrew Card, a Massachusetts native whom President George W. Bush later named as his Chief of Staff.[9]

Although commercials about Willie Horton were not run until the fall campaign, Bush first mentioned him at the Texas Republican convention on June 9, 1988.

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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
So under this law, would it be illegal to procure and abortion because you are a black woman, because you would be contributing to genocide or because it is racist.

This doens't make any sense to me.

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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
So under this law, would it be illegal to procure and abortion because you are a black woman, because you would be contributing to genocide or because it is racist.

This doens't make any sense to me.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

requires person performing termination to first sign affidavit stating that he or she is not performing termination because of child's sex or race & has no knowledge that pregnancy being terminated is because of child's sex or race; prohibits performing, inducing, or actively participating in termination knowing that it is sought based on sex or race of child or race of parent of that child, using force or threat of force to intentionally injure or intimidate any person for purpose of coercing sex-selection or race-selection termination, & soliciting or accepting moneys to finance sex-selection or race-selection termination; provides for injunctions; provides for civil actions by certain persons; authorizes civil fines against physicians & other health professionals who knowingly fail to report known violations; provides that minor on whom sex-selection or race-selection termination is performed is not subject to criminal prosecution or civil liability."

http://www.myfloridahouse.gov/Sections/Bills/billsdetail.aspx?BillId=5
0094

Seems to be saying that abortions can't be performed because of the sex or race of the unborn. Not sure the argument being made really syncs up w/ what the bill is suppose to accomplish. I see it as more a intentional govt hurdle, that harass folks into NOT getting an abortion, much like the extra background checks Obama and the Dems want to impose on those wishing to buy guns.

The stated REASON is being presented as some high and noble cause, but in fact, it's nothing more than a bureaucratic road block to force folks into acting in a way politicians WANT them to act.

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