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Gun Supply Sells "Barocky" Target Zombie
Tuesday, May 7, 2013 7:49 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:After Trayvon Martin was murdered, his hoodie was turned into a popular gun range target, which eventually sold out. If that weren't bad enough, now there are “Barocky” gun range targets which eerily resemble President Obama. Zombie Industries, the creators of gory zombies targets, also produces one named “Rocky,” or “Barocky”, as it is commonly called, which appears to be an Obama effigy. ...those of us who are not on the far right already believe that we live amongst zombies. We’re already prepared, because although the outbreak didn’t begin when President Obama was elected, it increased exponentially. http://www.yourblackworld.net/2013/02/black-news/gun-supply-sells-barocky-target-zombie-which-resembles-president-obama/
Quote:For gun-toting, Republican-supporting and President-hating Americans, a 3D shooting target that looks like an undead Barack Obama could be the perfect gift. The controversial targets have, however, now been removed from sale at the National Rifle Association convention in Texas, at the request of organisers. “Someone from the NRA came by and asked us to remove it,” a worker from Zombie Industries, which makes the targets, told BuzzFeed.com. “They thought it looked too much like President Obama.” Another worker, who was talking to a group of men at the booth, said, “They are just scared some liberal reporter will come by and start b****ing. But ya know, he does look very familiar.” The group seems to recognise that at a time of heightened fears over gun massacres and terrorism, encouraging people to shoot at a likeness of Mr Obama would cause upset. It also draws attention to a desire among gun-owners to shoot at things that are a bit easier to hit than live animals, but more tangible than a piece of paper. While gun makers like to insist that people are not inspired by what they see on screen, the choice of zombie imagery follows a fashion for the genre in films and video games, such as “The Walking Dead”. Customers can choose from “bleeding zombies” that emit a bright colour when hit, as well as “mutilating zombies” that, according to the firm’s website, “physically show visible bodily devastation when shot. That’s right, the destruction is easy to see with every shot... Mutilation baby!” The Obama-like torso called “Rocky” is among dubious company: others in the range include a Nazi SS soldier, a “terrorist” doll that resembles Osama Bin Laden and one called “Bobo the clown”. Another is named, charmingly, “the ex”, which looks like a dark-haired woman, presumably sold to scorned gun-owners to release their frustration. http://cdn.zombieindustries.com/shop/images/5086/?400,400,2,936209579 http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/the-undead-prez-nra-bans-zombie-obamalookalike-target-from-its-convention-8605154.html
Quote: The Zombie virus does not discriminate and neither does Zombie Industries! All of our Zombies are fictitious characters for god’s sake… Don’t let the liberal media allow your imagination run wild with silly ideas… there is no political motivation… we hate ALL Zombies regardless of who they were! http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?hl=en&newwindow=1&;safe=off&tbo=d&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=cache%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fzombieindustries.com%2Fshop%2Frocky-zombie%2F&oq=cache%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fzombieindustries.com%2Fshop%2Frocky-zombie%2F&gs_l=hp.3...737.737.0.1652.1.1.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0.les%3B..0.1...1c.2.2.hp.KzjS-FaA_gM&pbx=1
Tuesday, May 7, 2013 8:27 AM
HKCAVALIER
Tuesday, May 7, 2013 8:41 AM
STORYMARK
Quote:Originally posted by HKCavalier: In before: But, but! Danish people making a mockumentary about GWB getting shot and its aftermath is so much worse!!! HKCavalier Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Tuesday, May 7, 2013 8:56 AM
WULFENSTAR
http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg
Tuesday, May 7, 2013 8:59 AM
Quote:Originally posted by DOMOKUN1: It's a target - gotta look like somebody. Did you also demonize "The BIble" on the History Channel because Satan resembled Obama?
Tuesday, May 7, 2013 11:42 AM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Quote: Someone from the NRA came by and asked us to remove it
Tuesday, May 7, 2013 12:46 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Good thing it's ZOMBIE Obama, and not actual PRESIDENT Obama. I mean, it's not like anyone made a movie, or wrote a book about murdering him, right ? Zombie Obama is already dead, so it's o.k. *shrug* Quote: Someone from the NRA came by and asked us to remove it Why? Doesn't the NRA hate everyone who isn't a member ? Why would they ask that this thing be removed, if they hated Obama so damn much ?
Tuesday, May 7, 2013 1:17 PM
Tuesday, May 7, 2013 1:36 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Good thing it's ZOMBIE Obama, and not actual PRESIDENT Obama. I mean, it's not like anyone made a movie, or wrote a book about murdering him, right ? Zombie Obama is already dead, so it's o.k. *shrug* Quote: Someone from the NRA came by and asked us to remove it Why? Doesn't the NRA hate everyone who isn't a member ? Why would they ask that this thing be removed, if they hated Obama so damn much ? We knew you wouldn't dissapoint. Predictably moronic as ever.
Tuesday, May 7, 2013 1:44 PM
Quote:Originally posted by DOMOKUN1: Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: Quote:Originally posted by DOMOKUN1: It's a target - gotta look like somebody. Did you also demonize "The BIble" on the History Channel because Satan resembled Obama? Oh, come on - they call it the "Barocky" and you don't think it's meant to be anyone specific....? Seriously? Excuse me while I soak in all these sweet, sweet conservative tears. "We will never have the elite, smart people on our side." -- Rick "Frothy" Santorum "Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!" Yeah, point being - BFD.
Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: Quote:Originally posted by DOMOKUN1: It's a target - gotta look like somebody. Did you also demonize "The BIble" on the History Channel because Satan resembled Obama? Oh, come on - they call it the "Barocky" and you don't think it's meant to be anyone specific....? Seriously? Excuse me while I soak in all these sweet, sweet conservative tears. "We will never have the elite, smart people on our side." -- Rick "Frothy" Santorum "Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"
Tuesday, May 7, 2013 2:40 PM
Tuesday, May 7, 2013 3:32 PM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Quote:Originally posted by HKCavalier: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Good thing it's ZOMBIE Obama, and not actual PRESIDENT Obama. I mean, it's not like anyone made a movie, or wrote a book about murdering him, right ? Zombie Obama is already dead, so it's o.k. *shrug* Quote: Someone from the NRA came by and asked us to remove it Why? Doesn't the NRA hate everyone who isn't a member ? Why would they ask that this thing be removed, if they hated Obama so damn much ? I win the interwebz! HKCavalier Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Tuesday, May 7, 2013 3:34 PM
Quote:Originally posted by DOMOKUN1: Well, there was the dude here in Kalifornia that hung Bush in effigy, but that was pretty much a-okay with the left-wing. Didn't hear any opposition to it. Personally? I don't care. Do whatever you want to likenesses of whoever. Kind of a freedom of speech thing, be it Bush, Obama, whomever. But, don't be surprised when somebody raises an eyebrow or if men in black trench coats show up at your door. But really, I think it kind of points to the hypocrisy and double-standard of the left. if anything.
Tuesday, May 7, 2013 3:56 PM
Quote:Originally posted by HKCavalier: I win the interwebz! HKCavalier Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Tuesday, May 7, 2013 4:42 PM
Wednesday, May 8, 2013 12:19 AM
Wednesday, May 8, 2013 12:51 AM
AGENTROUKA
Wednesday, May 8, 2013 2:47 AM
Wednesday, May 8, 2013 2:58 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: It's been firmly established that the Left are far more hypocritical than are the Right. It's not even remotely close.
Wednesday, May 8, 2013 3:33 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: While it is sick , I think some are making much ado about nothing. It's a zombie figure. Zombies are kinda popular now, like it or not. If the NRA told them to take it down, props to them. There'll always be folks who revel in the mockery of pub figures, Presidents & the like. That's just human nature, and prolly goes back to the Greeks, Romans and before.
Quote:Posted by Rappy: I believe this crosses the line of 'responsible' free speech,and that if the writers/ directors of this movie step foot in the US, they should be detained. Threatening the life of a sitting President,(which is clearly exactly what this movie depticts ) is against US law. They can dress it up any way they want, as 'an exercise in thought provoking fiction', or what ever the hell they call it, I call it down right evil. We don't need a 'fictional' national tragedy to amuse some pin headed fascination as to how a nation copes w/ another crisis. A generation before mine dealt w/ the assassination of JFK. Where were you when you heard the news... . Virtually every man and woman who was alive then can tell us exactly where they were, and what they were doing. Since then, we've had single events which brought the nation to tears, none the least of which was 9/11. Given today's climate in the world, with Islamo-fascist murdering folks all over the globe, this is the most dispicable and reckless piece of shit I've ever heard.
Wednesday, May 8, 2013 3:54 AM
Wednesday, May 8, 2013 5:05 AM
GEEZER
Keep the Shiny side up
Wednesday, May 8, 2013 5:11 AM
Wednesday, May 8, 2013 5:25 AM
Wednesday, May 8, 2013 6:05 AM
Wednesday, May 8, 2013 10:30 AM
Quote:At the National Rifle Association's annual convention in Houston, Texas this weekend, a company that sells shooting targets "designed to help YOU prepare for the upcoming Zombie outbreak" displayed much of what is wrong with the pro-gun movement with its foul "Ex-Girlfriend" target that bleeds when you shoot it. The more you shoot the iconization of the woman you hate (a 'slut' with her large breasts bulging out of her tank top) the more she bleeds and her body, once sexy, becomes mangled. It is a startling reminder of the normalization of violence against women in America, and the latest in delegitimization of the pro-gun lobby's claims that firearms are an equalizer for women. News flash to Zombie Industries: Violence against women, particularly by intimate partners, is a huge problem in America. In fact, "Domestic violence is the leading cause of injury to women – more than car accidents, muggings, and rapes combined." In 2010, nearly six times more women were shot by and killed by husbands or intimate acquaintances than were killed by male strangers. It's not surprising, considering a woman's chances of being killed by her abuser multiply by more than seven if he has access to a firearm. In America, women are targets, especially when it comes to guns. When at least three women in the US are killed by an intimate partner daily, selling "ex-girlfriend" targets that normalize a phenomenon of often deadly violence against women is an outrage that demands accountability. http://www.alternet.org/nra-convention-sells-ex-girlfriend-target-bleeds-when-you-shoot-it
Wednesday, May 8, 2013 10:38 AM
Wednesday, May 8, 2013 11:21 AM
Quote:The subjects in NMH targets were chosen in order to give officers the experience of dealing with deadly force shooting scenarios with subjects that are not the norm during training. I found while speaking with officers and trainers in the law enforcement community that there is a hesitation on the part of cops when deadly force is required on subjects with atypical age, frailty or condition (one officer explaining that he enlarged photos of his own kids to use as targets so that he would not be caught off guard with such a drastically new experience while on duty). This hesitation time may be only seconds but that is not acceptable when officers are losing their lives in these same situations. The goal of NMH is to break that stereotype on the range, regardless of how slim the chances are of encountering a real life scenario that involves a child, pregnant woman, etc. If that initial hesitation time can be cut down due to range experience, the officer and community are better served.”
Wednesday, May 8, 2013 1:05 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Apparently you've "evolved", then.
Quote: Or more likely, you have zero problem with this because it depicts a president you don't like, and you're totally okay with the idea of him being shot.
Wednesday, May 8, 2013 2:17 PM
Wednesday, May 8, 2013 2:51 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Apparently you've "evolved", then. Darwin himself was concerned that the misuse of the word 'evolution' in context other than biological change over time would result in confusion and should be avoided, at all cost. He was right. I've not 'evolved'. Individuals do not 'evolve'. People grow, mature, gain wisdom and knowledge. And you're trying to compare apples to oranges. Quote: Or more likely, you have zero problem with this because it depicts a president you don't like, and you're totally okay with the idea of him being shot. There is a clear and notable difference in describing the actual murder of a sitting US President and the attempted ( albeit lame )comical portrayal of a zombie, which RESEMBLES a sitting President, being used as target practice. I know the difference, and anyone w/ an above room temperature ( pre - global warming, that is ) I.Q. knows the difference, and to suggest otherwise is to be completely disingenuous.
Wednesday, May 8, 2013 2:52 PM
Quote:Originally posted by HKCavalier: Oh my god, Niki, that photo of the female target is horrifying. It's so sexualized! So, yeah, either the fantasy is of killing your girlfriend or killing a prostitute. Whee, let's pretend we're serial killers! What the ever-living fuck is wrong with people? And by people, I mean these fucking men who would actually buy and employ one of these things??? HKCavalier Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Wednesday, May 8, 2013 2:56 PM
Quote:Originally posted by DOMOKUN1: Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: "Paying to attention"? You cared enough to note that some guy (allegedly) hung Bush in effigy, and you claim "the left" was okay with that, which rather implies that you DO care. So you seem to have that same hypocrisy gene you're whinging about. Not that that comes as any great surprise. You're a right-winger, after all - hypocrisy comes as easy to you as breathing! WOW! That hypocrisy thing real gets to you committed lefties that are constantly committing, doesn't it? I guess there's something to it, what they say about the truth hurting and all..... Yeah, sorry about that typo "Paying to attention" - DUMBASS on me. GUess I wasn't paying attention! But that's O.K., I don't mind laughing at myself.
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: "Paying to attention"? You cared enough to note that some guy (allegedly) hung Bush in effigy, and you claim "the left" was okay with that, which rather implies that you DO care. So you seem to have that same hypocrisy gene you're whinging about. Not that that comes as any great surprise. You're a right-winger, after all - hypocrisy comes as easy to you as breathing!
Thursday, May 9, 2013 1:40 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: It's nice to see you finally acknowledge climate change, though. As I said, you seem to have evolved. (I know, you really don't believe in evolution; it's against your party beliefs)
Quote: The subjects in NMH targets were chosen in order to give officers the experience of dealing with deadly force shooting scenarios with subjects that are not the norm during training.
Thursday, May 9, 2013 2:45 AM
Thursday, May 9, 2013 2:50 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: But it also shows your mindset. A person IS their party, as you understand. We are not individuals, but members of groups, who are to be viewed as only that... white, black, gay, straight, Democrat, Republican.
Quote:I was being sarcastic. I guess your part of Texas hasn't gotten sarcasm yet.
Thursday, May 9, 2013 3:01 AM
Quote:Bleeding Ex-Girlfriend Shooting Target At NRA Conference Promotes Violence Against Women This is so offensive in so many ways, I don’t know where to begin. During Houston’s NRA Conference last week, a vendor was promoting shooting targets. One target looked so much like President Obama, it had to be taken off display. However the one ‘token’ female target called ‘Ex’, to represent an ex-girlfriend, that bleeds when you shoot her, was allowed to stay. It apparently met the NRA decency guidelines. Elisabeth Plank from Policymic shares her views and very good research information:Quote:“I’m not even sure how to begin unpacking this, so let me start with some stats. Men’s violence against women is not a small pickle, it’s a huge problem. Not just all over the world and in every society, but particularly here in the United States where ”domestic violence is the leading cause of injury to women — more than car accidents, muggings, and rapes combined.” One third of female murder victims are killed by an intimate partner. Gun violence is a gendered issue since it impacts women and men in very different ways. Because women are more vulnerable to violence within the home than men (and men are most often the perpetrators of violence against women), the presence of a gun makes females less safe, not more. How do we know? A woman’s likelihood of a violent death within the home actually increases by 270% when a gun is kept inside the house. Homicide figures don’t lie. Having a gun within their possession didn’t protect women from murder. In fact, it accurately predicted their higher likelihood of death. Every day, at least three women are killed by an intimate partner in the US alone.Thank you, Elizabeth. You said it better than I would. If I were to write more now, given my state of anger and outrage, I doubt my choice of words would get past this, or most site’s obscenity ‘guidelines’ –and I wanted to get the story out. I am grateful that we have a president who signed into law, the Violence Against Women Act (VAWA). I’m grateful for Women’s Right’s organizations like UniteWomen.org who have campaigns protesting violence against women and who recently began a campaign called, Unite Against Rape. And I’m grateful for sites like Women’s Health.Com that give information links and helplines for women who need help and don’t know where to find it. Through these groups and articles, we build awareness and together find ways to combat violence against women. http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/05/09/bleeding-ex-girlfriend-shooting-target-at-nra-conference-promotes-violence-against-women-image/
Quote:“I’m not even sure how to begin unpacking this, so let me start with some stats. Men’s violence against women is not a small pickle, it’s a huge problem. Not just all over the world and in every society, but particularly here in the United States where ”domestic violence is the leading cause of injury to women — more than car accidents, muggings, and rapes combined.” One third of female murder victims are killed by an intimate partner. Gun violence is a gendered issue since it impacts women and men in very different ways. Because women are more vulnerable to violence within the home than men (and men are most often the perpetrators of violence against women), the presence of a gun makes females less safe, not more. How do we know? A woman’s likelihood of a violent death within the home actually increases by 270% when a gun is kept inside the house. Homicide figures don’t lie. Having a gun within their possession didn’t protect women from murder. In fact, it accurately predicted their higher likelihood of death. Every day, at least three women are killed by an intimate partner in the US alone.
Thursday, May 9, 2013 3:07 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: Yes, Geezer, I TOTALLY decry what you described; excuse me if I don't go to the link, your description is quite sufficient.
Thursday, May 9, 2013 3:13 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Of course you and Geezer think the one you actually shoot with a real gun is less offensive.
Thursday, May 9, 2013 3:17 AM
Thursday, May 9, 2013 4:12 AM
Thursday, May 9, 2013 5:04 PM
Quote:Originally posted by WULFENSTAR: "I gather you're pretending to say that people using the Obama or "Ex" target aren't doing so just for fun, but with the full intention of going out and shooting Obama or dark-haired women (which aren't even threatening them with a gun, as the cop targets are), since that's the comparison you're making. It fails miserably also because the cops aren't PLANNING to go shoot people like that, they're training to deal with..." Actually, Im saying shooting zombie targets are fun. The police practicing to shoot pregnant women, children, old folks... thats wrong/creepy/horrifying.
Quote: As to the ZOMBIE targets (need to emphasize that), what do you have against women or minorities being represented? Zombies can't be blacks, or women?!!
Quote: SHHHHAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEE! ON. YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUU!
Thursday, May 9, 2013 5:06 PM
PIRATENEWS
John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!
Thursday, May 9, 2013 5:07 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Geezer: Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Of course you and Geezer think the one you actually shoot with a real gun is less offensive. Ah, Mike's put on his tinfoil mind-reading hat again.
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