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Muslims Condemn Terrorism
Sunday, May 26, 2013 10:15 PM
MAGONSDAUGHTER
Quote:It took 9,000 officers, five days, and roughly $1 billion in lost revenue for Boston, but suspect one is dead and suspect two is in custody. So let me start with the standard roll call: As an American Muslim, I condemn all violence in the name of religion. Terrorism has no religion and Islam is no exception. If the Tsarnaev brothers are guilty of the Boston bombings, then I hope they are brought to justice. Is that condemnation clear enough? Because I'm pretty sure a whole lot of people instead read blah blah blah blah blah. Here's the deal. It is a shame that we had to employ 9,000 officers, put our lives on hold for five days, and sacrifice $1 billion in Boston revenue to catch these culprits. It is a shame that Muslim women were assaulted in retaliation, and that's even before we knew who the suspects were. And it is a shame I received threats of anti-Muslim violence and that even my non-Muslim but non-white friends called me, fearing for their safety. And now the public lynching and double standards against Islam begin. Mental illness was the culprit during Newtown, Conn., Oak Creek, Wis., and Aurora, Colo. More than 70 percent of America's 64 previous mass shooters were white American men. But not one pundit, nor any politician, nor any Muslim has ever asked why White Americans or Christian Americans are not aggressively condemning these acts of terror. After all, why ask such a ludicrous question? Anyone with a functioning cerebrum could comprehend that these terrorists represent only themselves. But why do our brains shut down when the slightest indication exists that the culprit might maybe possibly be Muslim? No sooner did the Boston tragedy occur -- and even before the slightest indication emerged regarding who perpetrated the attack -- but I received dozens of emails and messages asking why "moderate Muslims" aren't condemning the attack? This was my initial reaction to such demands for condemnation. Muslims condemned 9/11, we condemned 7/7, we condemned the Fort Hood tragedy, we condemned the underwear bomber, we condemned the Times Square bomber, and now yet again we find ourselves condemning the Boston Bombers on the mere suspicion that they were "motivated by Islam." And this is why I am unsure if people hear Muslims when Muslims declare -- in response to every violent act or attempt at violence -- that Islam condemns all forms of religious violence and terrorism. Because even after condemning the Boston bombers, I receive messages that the condemnation wasn't "loud enough" or "clear enough" or passionate enough." " In other words, all they heard from me was blah blah blah blah blah. And the fact is Muslims have gone far beyond mere condemnation but taken action. The Muslims for Life campaign has raised over 25,000 blood donations in the past two years to honor 9/11 victims. The #MyJihad campaign serves to demonstrate Jihad's true meaning. The Muslims for Peace campaign champions true, peaceful Islam. I could go on but hopefully you get the picture. America is not under threat from radical Islam, but it is under threat from radical ignorance. This ignorance is a far more powerful and far more destructive force than any act of terror. I speak having experienced the horrific after effects of such ignorance. Some 40 years ago, Pakistan decided to succumb to such ignorance and direct its wrath against my peaceful and pluralistic Muslim sect -- the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community. What began as passive discrimination advanced to laws banning our freedom of expression and worship, to now open violence against all religious and belief minorities in Pakistan -- Ahmadi Muslims, Christians, Hindus, Shiite Muslims, Baha'is, and atheists. Pakistan went from a relatively peaceful nation entirely alien to terrorist attacks, to one that suffers through 3,000 civilian deaths from terrorists annually and now devoid of religious freedom. If Americans have any hope of winning the "war on terror," it won't come from demonizing American Muslims, or Islam in general. It will come from education through interfaith dialogues, joining together in service of humanity, and recognizing that we are all equal human beings in search of similar goals of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. It will come from all Americans rejecting ignorance and uniting even stronger against extremism that tries to divide us. The path of radical ignorance is a one way street; if we go down this path, don't expect to come back so easily. As I said, I've tried reasoning with extremists in Pakistan to give up discrimination and favor tolerance. But all they seem to hear is blah blah blah blah blah.
Monday, May 27, 2013 1:09 AM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Quote: But not one pundit, nor any politician, nor any Muslim has ever asked why White Americans or Christian Americans are not aggressively condemning these acts of terror
Monday, May 27, 2013 3:03 AM
GEEZER
Keep the Shiny side up
Monday, May 27, 2013 7:45 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:More than 70 percent of America's 64 previous mass shooters were white American men.
Quote:A state bill to expand the definition of justifiable homicide in South Dakota to include killing someone in the defense of an unborn child was postponed indefinitely Wednesday after an uproar over whether the legislation would put abortion providers at greater risk. The bill, approved by the House Judiciary Committee last week on a 9-to-3 party-line vote, establishes in part that “homicide is justifiable if committed by any person in the lawful defense of such person, or of his or her husband, wife, parent, child, master, mistress, or servant, or the unborn child of any such enumerated person.” The phrasing caused concern and disbelief on both sides of the abortion debate. The bill was cheered, though, by those anti-abortion activists who argue that the use of violence is justified to stop doctors from carrying out abortions. Dr. Marvin Buehner, of Rapid City, S.D., who is the only doctor in the region to provide abortions for women whose health and safety are at risk, said he was shaken by the measure. “Once you get the sense that the Legislature will tolerate violence against abortion providers, even if the legislation is not enacted, it crosses the line into intimidation,” he said. Dave Leach, an Iowa anti-abortion activist, praised the bill, saying it could end abortions in South Dakota by scaring away doctors or [u\by establishing grounds for someone to kill those who stay. “There may be something I’m overlooking, but from all appearances, this bill would certainly justify an individual taking the life of an abortionist in order to save human lives,” he said. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/17/us/17dakota.html?_r=0#h] In other words, no condemnation, and not just "crazies". So let's not get all high and mighty and claim Americans all condemn this kind of terrorism--which is precisely what it is. Remember George Tiller's murder?Quote:Some anti-abortionist zealots are actually celebrating the murder, the way they cheered the deaths of Dr. Barnett Slepian in Buffalo, N.Y., in 1998 and Dr. John Britton in Pensacola in 1994. still remember being outside Florida State Prison in Starke for the 2003 execution of Paul Hill, who killed Britton and his bodyguard. It was probably the most bizarre thing I’ve covered. Anti-death penalty liberals and anti-abortion conservatives aligned for the day protesting Hill’s execution. But Hill’s supporters not only wanted him spared the death penalty, they wanted him fully pardoned, saying he was completely justified in his actions. I just don’t get that way of thinking at all. Then again, Holy Wars never do make much sense. http://weblogs.sun-sentinel.com/news/columnists/mayo/blog/2009/06/abortion_doctors_murder_the_he.html We've had our own little holy war going on for decades in this country, and there are plenty who cheer it on "in god's name". There are plenty of articles illustrating this mentality that I could put up, but I shouldn't have to. Those who CHOOSE to focus their hate on Muslims and minimize the holy war in this country do so for their own reasons; it doesn't change the facts.
Quote:Some anti-abortionist zealots are actually celebrating the murder, the way they cheered the deaths of Dr. Barnett Slepian in Buffalo, N.Y., in 1998 and Dr. John Britton in Pensacola in 1994. still remember being outside Florida State Prison in Starke for the 2003 execution of Paul Hill, who killed Britton and his bodyguard. It was probably the most bizarre thing I’ve covered. Anti-death penalty liberals and anti-abortion conservatives aligned for the day protesting Hill’s execution. But Hill’s supporters not only wanted him spared the death penalty, they wanted him fully pardoned, saying he was completely justified in his actions. I just don’t get that way of thinking at all. Then again, Holy Wars never do make much sense. http://weblogs.sun-sentinel.com/news/columnists/mayo/blog/2009/06/abortion_doctors_murder_the_he.html
Monday, May 27, 2013 10:30 AM
KPO
Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.
Quote:Blaming all Muslims for the acts of a few radicalized pawns is like blaming all gun owners for the acts of a few crazies.
Monday, May 27, 2013 10:47 AM
Quote:Originally posted by kpo: Quote:Blaming all Muslims for the acts of a few radicalized pawns is like blaming all gun owners for the acts of a few crazies. Which... no one does. It's not personal. It's just war.
Tuesday, May 28, 2013 1:48 AM
Quote:Originally posted by kpo: Quote:Blaming all Muslims for the acts of a few radicalized pawns is like blaming all gun owners for the acts of a few crazies. Which... no one does.
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: That's a pertinent point. IN THIS COUNTRY, we face far more danger from idiots and crazies with guns than we ever do from terrorists with bombs.
Tuesday, May 28, 2013 2:31 AM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Tuesday, May 28, 2013 2:37 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: So Geezer thinks all gun owners are "idiots and crazies"?
Tuesday, May 28, 2013 11:34 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: While I'd like to applaud those coming out against the violence, there seems to be a tone of thinly veiled anger that poor muslims are being unfairly put upon. boo frelling hoo.
Tuesday, May 28, 2013 11:46 AM
Wednesday, May 29, 2013 2:11 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Magonsdaughter: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: While I'd like to applaud those coming out against the violence, there seems to be a tone of thinly veiled anger that poor muslims are being unfairly put upon. boo frelling hoo. How's your empathy chip these days. Ever wonder how hard it must be to be a moderate Muslim living in the west, each time of these atrocities happens?
Wednesday, May 29, 2013 2:41 AM
Wednesday, May 29, 2013 5:08 AM
Quote:they just want to take their guns away
Quote: IN THIS COUNTRY, we face far more danger from idiots and crazies with guns than we ever do from terrorists with bombs.
Wednesday, May 29, 2013 5:16 AM
BYTEMITE
Wednesday, May 29, 2013 5:48 AM
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