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After Girl Expelled From High School and Charged Over Lesbian Relationship, Anonymous Goes on the Offensive


When Florida high school student Kaitlyn Hunt was a senior in high school, she began dating a 15-year-old teammate on her school's girls' basketball team.* Kaitlyn's parents say the parents of the 15-year-old never complained to them about the (consensual) relationship. But halfway through the school year, the younger girl's parents had her arrested. She was charged with a felony—"lewd and lascivious battery of a child 12-16 years old." The girl's parents also succeeded in getting her expelled from school by appealing to the school board after the school and a judge refused to grant their request, according to Kaitlyn's mother, Kelly Hunt Smith.

"That is absolutely ludicrous," Smith wrote on Facebook last Friday in a widely shared plea for help. "We need justice in this situation, not to feed into these parents' hates and insanity."

Enter Anonymous, the global hacker collective, which recently has raised eyebrows by pursuing justice for rape victims. In this case, some of the same Anonymous members are rallying behind a girl they feel has been wrongly accused of sexual misconduct. On Saturday, they launched the twitter hashtag #OPJustice4Kaitlyn, and a press release that begins: "Greetings, Bigots."

"The truth is, Kaitlyn Hunt is a bright young girl who was involved in a consensual, same-sex relationship while both she and her partner were minors," reads the release.* "She has a big future ahead of her and there are people, thousands of people in fact, that have no intention of allowing you to ruin it with your rotten selective enforcement."

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But lesbian sex is different than heterosexual sex. No chance for a young girl to get knocked up, for one thing. And Niki will correct me if I'm wrong, but STD's aren't as likely to be transmitted between lesbians as they are male / female or male/male.

But the point here is, yes, taking liberties w/ a younger person is wrong. But should it be treated the same as were the youth a male ?

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I'm not a lawyer so I can't speak to the laws of Florida. But just as an individual I think it's dangerous and wrong for children of these ages to be engaging in that kind of activity. I don't think making criminals of anyone in this case is the answer though.

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ATLANTA (WXIA) -- The state of Georgia has passed on nearly $2 million of federal funding, after the governor declined to include questions about sex on a survey to teenagers in public schools.

Annually, the Centers For Disease Control provides a Youth Risk Behavior Survey to middle schools and high schools nationwide.

On each survey there are a series of questions about students' sexual history.

Governor Nathan Deal has opted to leave them out. According to a spokesperson, Brian Robinson, the governor was not comfortable asking 12 year old students about sexual partners and condom use.

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If my son was having sex with someone else at 15 who was similar age, I sure wouldn't be calling the police or asking for expulsion.

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From this angle, looks like Lee Meriwether. That's my guess.

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What if your 15 year old daughter was having 'relations' with a 17 year old ?

Landed this guy ( not the 15 year old girl ) in jail.


Marcus Dwayne Dixon (born September 16, 1984) is an American football defensive end and defensive tackle for the Kansas City Chiefs of the National Football League (NFL). He was signed by the Dallas Cowboys as an undrafted free agent in 2008. He played college football at Hampton University.

Dixon is also known for being prosecuted in a high-profile court case when, as a high school student, he was convicted in May 2003 for the "aggravated molestation" of Kristie Brown, an underage girl. These charges were later overturned and dropped to statutory rape

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Is that Julie Newmar or Lee Meriwether?

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After Girl Expelled From High School and Charged Over Lesbian Relationship, Anonymous Goes on the Offensive


When Florida high school student Kaitlyn Hunt was a senior in high school, she began dating a 15-year-old teammate on her school's girls' basketball team.* Kaitlyn's parents say the parents of the 15-year-old never complained to them about the (consensual) relationship. But halfway through the school year, the younger girl's parents had her arrested. She was charged with a felony—"lewd and lascivious battery of a child 12-16 years old." The girl's parents also succeeded in getting her expelled from school by appealing to the school board after the school and a judge refused to grant their request, according to Kaitlyn's mother, Kelly Hunt Smith.

"That is absolutely ludicrous," Smith wrote on Facebook last Friday in a widely shared plea for help. "We need justice in this situation, not to feed into these parents' hates and insanity."

Enter Anonymous, the global hacker collective, which recently has raised eyebrows by pursuing justice for rape victims. In this case, some of the same Anonymous members are rallying behind a girl they feel has been wrongly accused of sexual misconduct. On Saturday, they launched the twitter hashtag #OPJustice4Kaitlyn, and a press release that begins: "Greetings, Bigots."

"The truth is, Kaitlyn Hunt is a bright young girl who was involved in a consensual, same-sex relationship while both she and her partner were minors," reads the release.* "She has a big future ahead of her and there are people, thousands of people in fact, that have no intention of allowing you to ruin it with your rotten selective enforcement."

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And should be treated as such.

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That's gotta be Julie Newmar's ass...................

Sproing!!!!!


SGG

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"Without wanting to get too specific, this particular cancer is caused by HPV, which actually comes about from cunnilingus," the "Behind the Candelabra" star, 68, explains.

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What's the story about Michael Douglas got to do with anything?

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Why DO the ladies love Colonel Angus so ?

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

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Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
Actually, the fact of the matter is that they shouldn't be treated differently, but generally are. Most states have something referred to as a "Romeo and Juliet" clause in statutory rape law, essentially making it legal for teenagers to have sex with other teenagers (because, let's face it, teenagers are going to have sex, and making them all felons for it would hardly be sensible or just) but those clauses don't include homosexual relationships. So, as an example, a 15-year-old could have sex with an 18-year-old of the opposite sex, and it would not be considered statutory rape, because in most states there's a sort of sliding scale of the age of consent in that instance that declares an age difference of five years to be perfectly legal, so long as the younger party is of a certain age (usually their mid-teens.) However, the age of consent for homosexual sex is defined under a different law, and the age is usually higher; 17 or 18 in most cases.
I don't know if that's what happened, here. I'd have to dig through Florida's age of consent laws to see if there's a Romeo and Juliet clause for heterosexual couples, but not gay ones. The specific laws are sometimes difficult to track down, so I'd prefer lawyers in the state do that. However, the separate laws are very common, and they do represent a double-standard.

Few other points:
Is there proof these girls were having sex? I know it's likely they had sex, but I've dated people I didn't have sex with. I'm sure everyone has.
Even if they did have sex, I'd be opposed to this girl being labeled a felon and a sex offender for the rest of her life. I don't think that's right, regardless of gender or sexual orientation. No one deserves that for being a sexually active teenager. Consequences are one thing, felonies are another.
It is entirely true that the risks are lower for a lesbian couple. Pregnancy is basically a non-issue, and STDs are far less common. This may or may not be relevant in terms of defining statutory rape, but the fact remains that it's technically safer for girls to have sex with other girls.


What reason had proved best ceased to look absurd to the eye, which shows how idle it is to think anything ridiculous except what is wrong.

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
She, Kaitlyn Hunt 18, definitely broke the law as it is written in Florida (and also here in NY). Anyone under the age of 17 is considered a minor. Anyone above that age a consenting adult.

From what I understand the younger girl was 14 at the time of the "rape" and the older girl 18. That is what makes it rape. Doesn't matter that it's 2 girls. It's the age, not the gender.

I also heard that the D.A. has offered a deal with no jail time, but the older girl would have to register as a sex offender. Kaitlyn Hunt refused the plea bargain and wants a trial.

I don't agree with her decision, but I also don't agree she should have to register as a sex offender. She should be given a suspended sentence and probation and nothing else. The more the younger girl's parents make this an issue the more they will drive their daughter into Kaitlyn's arms. They should drop all charges and move on with their lives, otherwise when she's of age, bye-bye Mommy and Daddy.


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After Girl Expelled From High School and Charged Over Lesbian Relationship, Anonymous Goes on the Offensive


When Florida high school student Kaitlyn Hunt was a senior in high school, she began dating a 15-year-old teammate on her school's girls' basketball team.* Kaitlyn's parents say the parents of the 15-year-old never complained to them about the (consensual) relationship. But halfway through the school year, the younger girl's parents had her arrested. She was charged with a felony—"lewd and lascivious battery of a child 12-16 years old." The girl's parents also succeeded in getting her expelled from school by appealing to the school board after the school and a judge refused to grant their request, according to Kaitlyn's mother, Kelly Hunt Smith.

"That is absolutely ludicrous," Smith wrote on Facebook last Friday in a widely shared plea for help. "We need justice in this situation, not to feed into these parents' hates and insanity."

Enter Anonymous, the global hacker collective, which recently has raised eyebrows by pursuing justice for rape victims. In this case, some of the same Anonymous members are rallying behind a girl they feel has been wrongly accused of sexual misconduct. On Saturday, they launched the twitter hashtag #OPJustice4Kaitlyn, and a press release that begins: "Greetings, Bigots."

"The truth is, Kaitlyn Hunt is a bright young girl who was involved in a consensual, same-sex relationship while both she and her partner were minors," reads the release.* "She has a big future ahead of her and there are people, thousands of people in fact, that have no intention of allowing you to ruin it with your rotten selective enforcement."

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Hi Rose,

Yes, I've heard of the Romeo & Juliet clause, but I believe that point is moot when one of the teens is considered an adult (adult age varies from state to state). In New York, I believe the age of consent is 17. So if a 17 year old has sex with a "minor" (someone under 17) it's considered statutory rape.

Also, I heard somewhere that the older girl admitted to having sex with the younger girl, hence the charges brought against her. That is kind of strange since there were no witnesses to the alleged rape. It's an interesting case because it forces the state to define the sexual act.
What I mean is, is anything other than heterosexual intercourse, or penetration, considered, within the state laws, sex.

So if the state considers lesbian sex to be sex regardless of penetration or sexual battery (forced sex, rape). Then is the state required to recognize the existence of lesbian love, as well as sexual attraction between same-gender partners. It is a civil matter. If the young woman can be arrested because of laws irregardless of gender, then those same laws should not prevent anyone, regardless of gender, from pursuing their civil right to marry.

By the way, in Florida the right for 2 women, or men, to marry was recently prohibited in a state law known as Amendment 2 (2008). So that means before then there was no law on the books prohibiting same-sex marriage. Think about that for a minute, in 2008 it became illegal.

Interesting.


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Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
Actually, the fact of the matter is that they shouldn't be treated differently, but generally are. Most states have something referred to as a "Romeo and Juliet" clause in statutory rape law, essentially making it legal for teenagers to have sex with other teenagers (because, let's face it, teenagers are going to have sex, and making them all felons for it would hardly be sensible or just) but those clauses don't include homosexual relationships. So, as an example, a 15-year-old could have sex with an 18-year-old of the opposite sex, and it would not be considered statutory rape, because in most states there's a sort of sliding scale of the age of consent in that instance that declares an age difference of five years to be perfectly legal, so long as the younger party is of a certain age (usually their mid-teens.) However, the age of consent for homosexual sex is defined under a different law, and the age is usually higher; 17 or 18 in most cases.
I don't know if that's what happened, here. I'd have to dig through Florida's age of consent laws to see if there's a Romeo and Juliet clause for heterosexual couples, but not gay ones. The specific laws are sometimes difficult to track down, so I'd prefer lawyers in the state do that. However, the separate laws are very common, and they do represent a double-standard.

Few other points:
Is there proof these girls were having sex? I know it's likely they had sex, but I've dated people I didn't have sex with. I'm sure everyone has.
Even if they did have sex, I'd be opposed to this girl being labeled a felon and a sex offender for the rest of her life. I don't think that's right, regardless of gender or sexual orientation. No one deserves that for being a sexually active teenager. Consequences are one thing, felonies are another.
It is entirely true that the risks are lower for a lesbian couple. Pregnancy is basically a non-issue, and STDs are far less common. This may or may not be relevant in terms of defining statutory rape, but the fact remains that it's technically safer for girls to have sex with other girls.


What reason had proved best ceased to look absurd to the eye, which shows how idle it is to think anything ridiculous except what is wrong.

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They consider a 14-year-old, old enough to consent as long as their partner is not more than 4 years older. It appears that Kaitlyn may have a defense.

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