Woodward on the Scandals: 'No One's Coming Clean ... We Aren't Getting Straight Talk' by Jongsstraw

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Woodward on the Scandals: 'No One's Coming Clean ... We Aren't Getting Straight Talk'

POSTED BY: JONGSSTRAW
UPDATED: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 05:01
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Sunday, June 2, 2013 2:18 PM

JONGSSTRAW

The Watergate crusader sums it up well.

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Sunday, June 2, 2013 2:54 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

Mitch McConnell: "I don't think we know what the facts are."

He and Woodward seem to agree that we don't know what happened, but the GOP still seems happy to claim that even without any facts, this is "worse than Watergate" (the scandal that proved that the President of the USA was actively pushing a cover-up involving hush money, slush funds, burglars, wiretaps, and using the IRS against his personal and political enemies).

Until and unless it's shown that Obama himself ordered such measures taken, this really isn't "worse than Watergate".

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Sunday, June 2, 2013 4:49 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

Pot calls kettle black...

says Woodward who was an LT in US Naval Intelligence in Vietnam and for the Joint Chiefs at the Pentagon whose job was daily visits to the Nixon White House as JCS liason to Nixon chief of staff Al Deep Throat Haig. But Woody made no mention of that in All The Presidents Men.

In Firefly the Alliance merged the US flag with the flag of Communist China

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Monday, June 3, 2013 4:33 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up

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Mitch McConnell: "I don't think we know what the facts are."

Well, yeah, Mike.

If no one is coming clean, and the Administration is not providing information, and IRS representatives are taking the Fifth, it is kind'a hard to know the facts.

"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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Monday, June 3, 2013 4:51 PM

KWICKO

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Mitch McConnell: "I don't think we know what the facts are."

Well, yeah, Mike.

If no one is coming clean, and the Administration is not providing information, and IRS representatives are taking the Fifth, it is kind'a hard to know the facts.

So when did you start supporting making allegations without having any facts?

Was it the day a Democrat was elected president, or the day a black Democrat was elected?

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Monday, June 3, 2013 5:15 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

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Mitch McConnell: "I don't think we know what the facts are."

Well, yeah, Mike.

If no one is coming clean, and the Administration is not providing information, and IRS representatives are taking the Fifth, it is kind'a hard to know the facts.

"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

Most transparent WH ever - my muscular ass.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

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" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Tuesday, June 4, 2013 3:14 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
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Originally posted by Geezer:
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Originally posted by Kwicko:

Mitch McConnell: "I don't think we know what the facts are."

Well, yeah, Mike.

If no one is coming clean, and the Administration is not providing information, and IRS representatives are taking the Fifth, it is kind'a hard to know the facts.

So when did you start supporting making allegations without having any facts?

Well, It's Mr. Woodward making the allegation that no one's coming clean, and that we aren't getting straight talk from the Administration, and the IRS exec. taking the Fifth is pretty well known news, so what allegations you talking about?

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Was it the day a Democrat was elected president, or the day a black Democrat was elected?

And playing the race card. You must really be desperate.

"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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Tuesday, June 4, 2013 4:31 AM

JONGSSTRAW

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
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Was it the day a Democrat was elected president, or the day a black Democrat was elected?

And playing the race card. You must really be desperate.

The break-in at the Watergate occured on June 17, 1972. Woodward and Bernstein started reporting about it two days later. No one knew or cared about it. 26 months later Nixon resigned.

IRS? ... Benghazi? ... AP/Fox? ..... The unraveling has only just begun. During the next two years you're going to see this Administration and its supporters reach depths of desperation that can't even be imagined. But in the end justice will be done. The guilty will be punished, and the innocent will be vindicated.

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Tuesday, June 4, 2013 4:43 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up

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During the next two years you're going to see this Administration and its supporters reach depths of desperation that can't even be imagined. But in the end justice will be done. The guilty will be punished, and the innocent will be vindicated.

I'd say Mike accusing Bob Woodward of racism is pretty close to the depths of desperation right now.

"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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Tuesday, June 4, 2013 5:01 AM

JONGSSTRAW

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During the next two years you're going to see this Administration and its supporters reach depths of desperation that can't even be imagined. But in the end justice will be done. The guilty will be punished, and the innocent will be vindicated.

I'd say Mike accusing Bob Woodward of racism is pretty close to the depths of desperation right now.

The race card will be played many more times, but because it's been used so much already during Obama's presidency, I don't believe it means anything any more.

Last night Bob Woodward updated his views of the Administration scandals (@ 3:06) ...

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