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Originally posted by whozit:
Barry will never be impeached for 3 reasons;

1) He's Black, deal with it

2) He's just a meat puppet and treats the office as ceremonial, he really doesn't know anything about any of these scandals. They don't tell him anything and he's fine with it.
3) President Biden?

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

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Originally posted by whozit:
Barry will never be impeached for 3 reasons;

1) He's Black, deal with it

2) He's just a meat puppet and treats the office as ceremonial, he really doesn't know anything about any of these scandals. They don't tell him anything and he's fine with it.
3) President Biden?

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Biden is Obama's M.A.D. security blankie. No one is so bat guano crazy to want to see Prez Biden. He's there for 1 reason, and 1 reason only.

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

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Originally posted by whozit:
Barry will never be impeached for 3 reasons;

1) He's Black, deal with it

2) He's just a meat puppet and treats the office as ceremonial, he really doesn't know anything about any of these scandals. They don't tell him anything and he's fine with it.
3) President Biden?

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Biden is Obama's M.A.D. security blankie. No one is so bat guano crazy to want to see Prez Biden. He's there for 1 reason, and 1 reason only.

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It's likely to come to that. Obama's many scandals are making the 2014 midterms look very good for Republicans. If things go well there's no reason not to impeach Obama and have him gone by 2015. Biden's been in Govt for 40 years. He must know something.

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Originally posted by whozit:
[If Biden became President the first thing he'd do is take a dump in the Rose Garden

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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:

You want people who will do this stuff gone, votes and midterms probably aren't gonna change it. I mean you can try, but as far as I can tell it's all a new boss same as the old boss kind of thing.

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I don't want this out of the spotlight, I don't want a scapegoat forced retirement - probably Obama - to appease people and then everyone loses interest unless someone brings it up to score political points in an election campaign.

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I want to see people jailed. This president, former presidents, senators, the works. I don't want people to be able to say that only one person was targeted because of race or because of party. If we have a working justice system in this country, then our "leaders" should have to answer to the same laws they scramble and game.

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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:I want to see people jailed. This president, former presidents, senators, the works. I don't want people to be able to say that only one person was targeted because of race or because of party. If we have a working justice system in this country, then our "leaders" should have to answer to the same laws they scramble and game.

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Originally posted by m52nickerson:

The laws the support these programs were debated in an open congress and voted on.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Then how is it we have members of congress, from both parties, claiming they were never even BRIEFED on any of this ?

Someone is fibbing here.

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Originally posted by m52nickerson:

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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:I want to see people jailed. This president, former presidents, senators, the works. I don't want people to be able to say that only one person was targeted because of race or because of party. If we have a working justice system in this country, then our "leaders" should have to answer to the same laws they scramble and game.

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No one is going to jail because no laws were broken. The FISA court and its warrents are legal. The laws the support these programs were debated in an open congress and voted on.

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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
Because laws created by the elite in an oligarchy are the only valid measure of ethics, and the elite only answer to said laws.

Law'l

Pretty sure SOMEONE is going to be the scapegoat here, if just to appease the unruly mobs that the politicians want to vote for them next midterm. There will be people fired and forced to resign - Snowden already was. There might be inquiries. There might not be trials or incarcerations over PRISM due to its "legality," but there might be indiscretions associated with people who were part of it that might be chargeable offenses. Almost certainly no one important like any presidents will get caught in the net, but I can hope.

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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
I would actually like the companies to stop as well, and would like some of them to come under inquiry.

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Then how is it we have members of congress, from both parties, claiming they were never even BRIEFED on any of this ?

Someone is fibbing here.

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Since you can pull up C-Span video of the admendment debates and the like it is pretty clear.

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Of course members not on certain commitees may not have been briefed on details.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Well. Have you ? Has anyone yet ? I suspect we'll be seeing some retractions and amending of comments, if indeed their memory comes back and it turns out they WERE briefed. Or political opponents now have an open invitation to play some clips of C-Span where those claiming they weren't briefed are shown to be in attendance of them being briefed.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
hh...so when we're told everyone in Congress was briefed, that doesn't necessarily mean EVERY one, right ?

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