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Conservative Republican IRS manager started the Tea-Party reviews
Saturday, June 22, 2013 6:11 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote:WASHINGTON — An Internal Revenue Service manager who described himself as a "conservative Republican" told congressional investigators that no one in the agency's Cincinnati office was trying to target tea party organizations for political reasons, according to an interview transcript released Tuesday. The manager, John Shafer, said he and an employee in his screening unit decided to pull applications for tax-exempt status filed by political groups and send them to managers in Washington. He said they were aware of the controversy over the groups and wanted to ensure they were treated uniformly. "Because of media attention that he had seen, he had concerns about this being a high-profile case," Shafer said. He said he believed the screening was motivated only by the need for "consistency and identifying issues that needed to have further development."
Sunday, June 23, 2013 5:55 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Sunday, June 23, 2013 6:38 AM
Quote:Scandal In The Wind: Senator Mitch McConnell Sticks Fork In IRS Kerfuffle The mainstream media took to the IRS “scandal” like a bunny in heat to a pair of mink slippers, immediately proclaiming the agency’s alleged targeting of conservative groups for additional tax-exempt-application scrutiny “Nixonian,” and even directly accusing the President of ordering it. The same reporters and commentators who, a month ago, were fitting President Obama for a Joe Biden pardon have fallen silent now that Rep. Elijah Cummings has helped to crush the dream of a White House link to the scandal, but at least Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) is facing facts. The IRS scandal wasn’t a total loss, of course, but try as they might, Republicans could never quite get their trail of bread crumbs to reach anywhere near the White House. The buzzards were circling earlier this month when Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) released the best quotes he could cherry-pick from closed testimony, and still came up short. It was Rep. Elijah Cummings who finished it off, though, when he fulfilled Issa’s promise to release the full transcripts, which revealed that the supervisor responsible for scrutinizing Tea Party groups was a conservative Republican who ruled out White House involvement in the policy. While it’s probably too much to ask for McConnell, or the political media, to apologize for jumping to Nixonian conclusions, at least McConnell is kind of facing reality. From TPM’s Brian Beutler:Quote:McConnell effectively acknowledged to disappointed conservatives that recently revealed IRS malfeasance probably wasn’t the consequence of any direct action taken by the White House. “There might be some folks out there waiting for a hand signed memo from President Obama to Lois Learner to turn up,” he said, referring to conservatives and Republicans who have charged that the IRS was following White House instructions when it targeted conservative non-profits. “Do not hold your breath.” …“I am prepared to say, and did say today, that the President and his political allies encouraged this kind of bureaucratic overreach by their public comments,” he said. “But that’s quite different from saying they ordered it.” http://www.mediaite.com/online/scandal-in-the-wind-senator-mitch-mcconnell-sticks-fork-in-irs-kerfuffle/
Quote:McConnell effectively acknowledged to disappointed conservatives that recently revealed IRS malfeasance probably wasn’t the consequence of any direct action taken by the White House. “There might be some folks out there waiting for a hand signed memo from President Obama to Lois Learner to turn up,” he said, referring to conservatives and Republicans who have charged that the IRS was following White House instructions when it targeted conservative non-profits. “Do not hold your breath.” …“I am prepared to say, and did say today, that the President and his political allies encouraged this kind of bureaucratic overreach by their public comments,” he said. “But that’s quite different from saying they ordered it.”
Sunday, June 23, 2013 9:25 AM
Sunday, June 23, 2013 3:41 PM
GEEZER
Keep the Shiny side up
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: Bet our righties wish this one would disappear down the list...should we dig around and quote all the dire things they said about how Obama was behind all the IRS bullshit and how horrible it was and, and, and...?
Sunday, June 23, 2013 5:55 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Monday, June 24, 2013 2:47 AM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Monday, June 24, 2013 2:51 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Geezer: The fact that you write the whole incident off because no one can provide a signed order by Obama sort'a misses the point.
Monday, June 24, 2013 6:49 AM
Monday, June 24, 2013 7:01 AM
JONGSSTRAW
Quote:Originally posted by Geezer: [ The fact that this happened at all, regardless of who ordered it, is enough to make one wonder about the Obama Administration's lack of oversight, especially given his aides propensity for shielding him from bad news http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-05-22/politics/39447029_1_irs-case-irs-inquiry-lois-lerner. What with the Acting Commissioner resigning and Lois Lerner taking the Fifth - along with the revelations that it wasn't just low level employees in Cincinatti, but lawyers in Washington who worked directly under Lerner who asked for review of these cases and asked the "unprecedented and demeaning" questions, then let applications languish for more than two years (per the LA Times article SignyM cited) - seems that someone in D.C. should have known about and acted on this stuff much earlier. The fact that you write the whole incident off because no one can provide a signed order by Obama sort'a misses the point. "When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."
Monday, June 24, 2013 8:08 AM
Monday, June 24, 2013 8:44 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: And I take it you also disagree with the IG's report.
Monday, June 24, 2013 8:55 AM
Monday, June 24, 2013 9:38 AM
Monday, June 24, 2013 9:43 AM
STORYMARK
Monday, June 24, 2013 9:46 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: Only fucking idiots see someone's reasoning laid out step-by-step, and think it's a claim to mind reading.
Monday, June 24, 2013 9:48 AM
Monday, June 24, 2013 10:15 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: LOL! Going with rappy's tried and true "no, you are" retort, huh? Adorable. Poor jongsie can't even read, or remember what he wrote. Poor, poor boy. All that right wing hate had boiled his last few brain cells. Pity the wingnut.
Monday, June 24, 2013 11:00 AM
Monday, June 24, 2013 1:07 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Jongsstraw: Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: LOL! Going with rappy's tried and true "no, you are" retort, huh? Adorable. Poor jongsie can't even read, or remember what he wrote. Poor, poor boy. All that right wing hate had boiled his last few brain cells. Pity the wingnut. Not at all maggot. It's kwacko's tried and true, "no, you are" retort. And yes, you are a pitiful libtard.
Monday, June 24, 2013 1:10 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: That's the best you can do? You even suck at trolling.
Monday, June 24, 2013 3:35 PM
Monday, June 24, 2013 7:35 PM
Quote:Only insane or dishonest people claim to read minds.
Monday, June 24, 2013 9:06 PM
Tuesday, June 25, 2013 9:47 AM
Quote: The Internal Revenue Service targeted liberal groups as well as conservatives seeking tax-exempt status, a Democratic congressman charged on Monday after the agency acknowledged the inappropriate practice continued until last month. Rep. Sander Levin said the term "progressives" was included on IRS screening lists of applicants for tax-exempt status made available to Congress on Monday. It was the first confirmation that the "Be on the Lookout" or BOLO lists used criteria targeting liberal groups after an inspector general's report made public last month said the IRS had used words such as "tea party" to determine possible extra scrutiny. In a statement, the Michigan Democrat questioned why the Treasury inspector general who initially disclosed the IRS targeting, J. Russell George, focused only on BOLO lists that contained conservative labels. The inspector general's report "served as the basis and impetus for a wide range of congressional investigations, and this new information shows that the foundation of those investigations is flawed in a fundamental way," Levin's statement said. Daniel Werfel, the IRS acting commissioner, noted that his investigation, while still incomplete, found no evidence so far of intentional wrongdoing by IRS personnel, involvement by anyone outside the IRS or that targeting extended into other areas of the agency. http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/24/politics/irs-targeting/index.html?hpt=hp_bn3
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