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Zimmerman Jury Picked - What do you think?
Thursday, June 20, 2013 10:55 AM
SHINYGOODGUY
Thursday, June 20, 2013 11:22 AM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Thursday, June 20, 2013 11:56 AM
WHOZIT
Thursday, June 20, 2013 12:19 PM
Thursday, June 20, 2013 1:16 PM
JONGSSTRAW
Thursday, June 20, 2013 1:21 PM
Thursday, June 20, 2013 1:26 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Jongsstraw: I'm not surprised to see an all-female jury for this case. I've been called half a dozen times in recent years to serve on a Florida jury. A couple of times I actually wanted to be on the jury because the case was serious and interesting. I answered the interview questions honestly, but each time I was not selected and neither were most of the men. It seems that for some reason both the prosecutors and the defense teams prefer female jurors. Perhaps they think men are more rigid in their beliefs, and women are more open-minded and persuadable to their side.
Thursday, June 20, 2013 1:29 PM
Quote: I want Alan Tydyk to play me
Thursday, June 20, 2013 1:32 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote: I want Alan Tydyk to play me Who ?
Thursday, June 20, 2013 1:42 PM
BYTEMITE
Thursday, June 20, 2013 1:57 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Jongsstraw: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote: I want Alan Tydyk to play me Who ? Yeah, Alan Tydyk, son of Dick Ty Dyk.
Thursday, June 20, 2013 1:58 PM
Quote:Originally posted by BYTEMITE: If this were a made up language, then for all we know "ty" could be the equivalent of "von". So that would translate to the name Alan son of dyk, son of Dick son of dyk. Very authentically medieval of you all!
Thursday, June 20, 2013 1:59 PM
Quote:Originally posted by whozit: Quote:Originally posted by Jongsstraw: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote: I want Alan Tydyk to play me Who ? Yeah, Alan Tydyk, son of Dick Ty Dyk. I fixed it, now your and rappys post look silly. HA!
Thursday, June 20, 2013 2:40 PM
OONJERAH
Thursday, June 20, 2013 3:05 PM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Thursday, June 20, 2013 3:43 PM
Friday, June 21, 2013 7:32 PM
SANFORD, Fla—A ruling on whether voice identification experts will testify at George Zimmerman's trial is expected soon. Circuit Judge Debra Nelson told lawyers for both sides Friday morning that she wanted to end court proceedings early to study her notes from a hearing about the experts and issue her decision. Defense lawyers are trying to keep a state witness from testifying that he can hear Trayvon Martin screaming stop in the background of a 911 call. ====================== A man's gotta know his limitations. ~Dirty Harry
Circuit Judge Debra Nelson told lawyers for both sides Friday morning that she wanted to end court proceedings early to study her notes from a hearing about the experts and issue her decision. Defense lawyers are trying to keep a state witness from testifying that he can hear Trayvon Martin screaming stop in the background of a 911 call.
Sunday, June 23, 2013 9:35 PM
Monday, June 24, 2013 2:27 AM
GEEZER
Keep the Shiny side up
Quote:Originally posted by Oonjerah: A good encapsulation of Who was Martin, Who is Zimmerman, What happened that night + before & after that night. The Zimmerman trial: What you need to know http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/24/justice/zimmerman-trial/?hpt=hp_c3
Monday, June 24, 2013 3:48 AM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Monday, June 24, 2013 3:53 PM
Monday, June 24, 2013 4:03 PM
Monday, June 24, 2013 4:41 PM
Monday, June 24, 2013 4:53 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Oonjerah: Hmmm. "Zimmerman identifies himself as Hispanic." He is Hispanic only on his mother's side. He definitely looks Hispanic to me. I wonder why he doesn't identify with his father?
Quote: Hispanic doesn't let him off the hook for profiling. Profiling comes from bigotry, or where hoodies are seen, judging a book by its cover = pre-judice. I suspect Hispanics are as prone to such error in judgement as any other ethnic group.
Quote: If he would suddenly claim to be white, I'd point my boney finger & say, "No, George. You are Hispanic." He can't win with me.
Monday, June 24, 2013 6:11 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Jongsstraw: On another note, the lead defense attorney opened with a knock-knock joke to the jury. But it bombed, bombed badly. Imagine paying all the money you have and don't have in the world to your attorney only to see him tell a lame joke on day one? Like something out of My Cousin Vinny.
Monday, June 24, 2013 6:13 PM
Quote:Actually, profiling comes from the Govt. It has zero to do w/ bigotry, and more to do w/ trying to target areas where the most crime occurs, and directing resources ( govt funds ) to those areas which need the most help. Sadly, in our PC crazed society, what was intended to HELP those areas where crime was the worst, has become twisted into being a bad thing. It isn't.
Monday, June 24, 2013 9:29 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Hey Oonjerah Just wanted to point this one out: http://www.census.gov/newsroom/releases/archives/2010_census/cb11-cn184.html 2010 Census Shows White Population Growth Fueled by Hispanics Non-Hispanic Whites Declined in 15 States Just pointing out I didn't make it up. Whether or not it makes sense (and I'm not offering an opinion either way), there it is.
Census: More Latinos List Themselves as White; Published September 29, 2011 Fox News Latino http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/lifestyle/2011/09/29/census-more-latinos-list-themselves-as-white/ "More Hispanics are listing their race as white, according to the U.S. Census. "The shift is due to recent census changes that emphasize "Hispanic" as an ethnicity, not a race. While the U.S. government first made this distinction in 1980, many Latinos continued to use the "some other race" box to establish a Hispanic identity. In a switch, the 2010 census forms specifically instructed Latinos that Hispanic origins are not races and to select a recognized category such as white or black." ..... ..... ..... Hispanic is an ethnicity-not-a-race for true. A good many Mexicans look Anglo & no doubt are. The vast majority that I've met look Native American. And they are. If so many of them are checking the White box instead of the American Indian box, that rather pisses me off. Have some racial pride, people! Does the word "American" confuse them? Well, to me, Mexico, Canada, Panama, etc., are all part of America. The USA is only a Small part of (North) America. Indian Tribes and Languages of Mexico http://www.native-languages.org/mexico.htm The page above lists 61 different Indian tribes in Mexico. They're all American Indians to me.
George Zimmerman Race: White, Latino, or Jewish? In The Trayvon Martin Case, It Shouldn't Matter http://www.policymic.com/articles/5925/george-zimmerman-race-white-latino-or-jewish-in-the-trayvon-martin-case-it-shouldn-t-matter Hmmm. ... Jewish is a Race, not a religion or ethnicity? ====================== A man's gotta know his limitations. ~Dirty Harry
Tuesday, June 25, 2013 1:29 AM
MAGONSDAUGHTER
Quote:Originally posted by Jongsstraw: I watched the opening statement from the prosecutor this morning, and the first word out of his mouth was "Fucking". It was on MSNBC and I couldn't believe what I heard. Then he said it again, on live tv. All of a sudden Chuck Todd appeared on the screen and apologized to the viewers for letting the profanity go out on the air. He then said MSNBC would use a 7 second delay so it would not happen again. And then it happened again! The prosecutor said "Fucking". No delay and edit had been used. When the fourth time came around the dump switch was firmly in place, but by then the utter hilarity of the moment had passed. On another note, the lead defense attorney opened with a knock-knock joke to the jury. But it bombed, bombed badly. Imagine paying all the money you have and don't have in the world to your attorney only to see him tell a lame joke on day one? Like something out of My Cousin Vinny.
Tuesday, June 25, 2013 2:01 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Quote:Actually, profiling comes from the Govt. It has zero to do w/ bigotry, and more to do w/ trying to target areas where the most crime occurs, and directing resources ( govt funds ) to those areas which need the most help. Sadly, in our PC crazed society, what was intended to HELP those areas where crime was the worst, has become twisted into being a bad thing. It isn't. So would it be beneficial, for instance, in investigating various groups applying for tax-exempt status with the IRS?
Tuesday, June 25, 2013 11:14 AM
Tuesday, June 25, 2013 11:19 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Magonsdaughter: Quote:Originally posted by Jongsstraw: I watched the opening statement from the prosecutor this morning, and the first word out of his mouth was "Fucking". It was on MSNBC and I couldn't believe what I heard. Then he said it again, on live tv. All of a sudden Chuck Todd appeared on the screen and apologized to the viewers for letting the profanity go out on the air. He then said MSNBC would use a 7 second delay so it would not happen again. And then it happened again! The prosecutor said "Fucking". No delay and edit had been used. When the fourth time came around the dump switch was firmly in place, but by then the utter hilarity of the moment had passed. On another note, the lead defense attorney opened with a knock-knock joke to the jury. But it bombed, bombed badly. Imagine paying all the money you have and don't have in the world to your attorney only to see him tell a lame joke on day one? Like something out of My Cousin Vinny. Sounds truly bizarre. "So on with the fucking evidence, my first fucking witness is Joe Citizen who is just an ordinary fucking person, no fucking shit...."
Tuesday, June 25, 2013 11:22 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Oonjerah: Hmmm. "Zimmerman identifies himself as Hispanic." He is Hispanic only on his mother's side. He definitely looks Hispanic to me. I wonder why he doesn't identify with his father? Hispanic doesn't let him off the hook for profiling. Profiling comes from bigotry, or where hoodies are seen, judging a book by its cover = pre-judice. I suspect Hispanics are as prone to such error in judgement as any other ethnic group. If he would suddenly claim to be white, I'd point my boney finger & say, "No, George. You are Hispanic." He can't win with me. BTW, here in CA, Mexicans are not a different flavor of Whitey. They're a different flavor of NA Indian. They only speak Spanish. ====================== A man's gotta know his limitations. ~Dirty Harry
Tuesday, June 25, 2013 11:29 AM
Tuesday, June 25, 2013 11:31 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: I find it curious that a murder trial has only 6 jurors. Can't recall a high profile case like this where ALL the jurors are of the same sex. ( But then, I'm not a trial junkie ) 5 white women, and 3 of the 6 own guns ? Is that correct ? My first impression is that this favors the prosecution, as women are likely to be more sympathetic to the dead teenager than a guy defending himself. Of course this is the result of courtroom strategy. The thing is, both sides play the same game. It seems a bit unusual, at first glance, but if I had to guess, I'd say the prosecution has a slight edge. Might be wrong. *shrug* Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen Resident USA Freedom Fundie " AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall
Tuesday, June 25, 2013 11:35 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: Bad joke is an understatement! Where'd they get that guy? He looks like one of those zombies from The Walking Dead, and about as bright. Zimmerman is toast!
Tuesday, June 25, 2013 11:45 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: From what I heard the other day, that is the county's set rules for murder trials. 6 jurors and 4 alternates. SGG
Wednesday, June 26, 2013 3:57 PM
Wednesday, June 26, 2013 5:07 PM
Wednesday, June 26, 2013 5:22 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Quote:Actually, profiling comes from the Govt. It has zero to do w/ bigotry, and more to do w/ trying to target areas where the most crime occurs, and directing resources ( govt funds ) to those areas which need the most help. Sadly, in our PC crazed society, what was intended to HELP those areas where crime was the worst, has become twisted into being a bad thing. It isn't. So would it be beneficial, for instance, in investigating various groups applying for tax-exempt status with the IRS? For some inexplicable reason, you're trying to interject the biased, targeting of groups by a President who has called fellow Americans a 'threat to democracy', to this murder case.
Thursday, June 27, 2013 6:09 AM
Saturday, June 29, 2013 4:00 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: From what I heard the other day, that is the county's set rules for murder trials. 6 jurors and 4 alternates. SGG I wasn't questioning it, as to suggest there was some special rules which only apply to this case. I was merely commenting as to the fact I'd not heard of such a low number for a murder case. Might be quite common, I just don't recall that being the case. Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen Resident USA Freedom Fundie " AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall
Saturday, June 29, 2013 4:10 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Oonjerah: The F Bomb. I haven't had a working TV in the house for 2 years or so. So I won't be watching the Zimmerman trial. Nor would I, as I don't have the patience. Will have to read about it ... & I'm a poor reader too. Prosecuting attorney John Guy kept dropping the F-bomb during his opening address. Me: What the heck is wrong with this man? Does he want to lose the case before it starts? But he had a reason for it. Each of Guy's profanities was an exact quote of what George Zimmerman said to the Sanford police dispatcher while he, George, watched Trayvon Martin, but hadn't met him yet. Does Zimmerman tell the dispatcher of Martin's suspicious behavior? Did the effing kid try people's doors, try to enter their garages? Can anyone tell me whether Martin did even one suspicious thing? How did George know that Trayvon was an fucker? Hopefully, he will explain this to us. ====================== A man's gotta know his limitations. ~Dirty Harry
Saturday, June 29, 2013 4:17 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: I need another flagon of mead.
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