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Whoever Silences the Tea Party Silences America
Sunday, October 13, 2013 10:38 AM
JONGSSTRAW
Quote:The Tea Party, Conservatives, and Republicans are terrorists, extremists, radicals, stupid, suicide bombers, and madmen who hate women, children, and old people. Maxine Waters, the Socialist, wants them all to go to Hell. David Plouffe tweeted today that Republicans are economic terrorists. Mr. Obama said Republicans are the ones who want 100% of everything they have asked for. But is that true? Forget what you think you know from this rhetoric and consider the following. Who is grabbing power for the Executive Branch of government? Who is disregarding Congress and the Separation of Powers? It isn’t John Boehner or the Tea Party or Mike Lee or Ted Cruz. They all want freedom for the American people. Who is building this incredible database on every American through Organizing for America (OFA)? It is the same man who is collecting our personal and financial information through the IRS; spying on us through the NSA; and collecting detailed information on our children thanks to Common Core. It is the man who is targeting conservatives, using the IRS. It is the man who is spying on reporters. Obama said, ”The Affordable Care Act is a law that passed the House. It passed the Senate; the Supreme Court ruled it constitutional. … and it is settled,” said Obama. However, Obama has violated the law 17 times – illegally. He delayed the employer mandate, the cap on out of pocket expenses, income verification, and endless numbers of deadlines specific to the law. He added almost 1500 waivers, many for his friends. SCOTUS ruled twice that the president cannot delay, amend or repeal parts of laws but he did. He ignores SCOTUS too.
Sunday, October 13, 2013 11:04 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Sunday, October 13, 2013 11:21 AM
MAL4PREZ
Quote:Originally posted by Jongsstraw: What goes around comes around. Obama and the Dems will learn that in 2014 as they did in 2010.
Sunday, October 13, 2013 11:49 AM
Sunday, October 13, 2013 12:51 PM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:Just 8% Now Say They Are Tea Party Members Views of the Tea Party movement are at their lowest point ever. Only eight percent (8%) now say they are members of the Tea Party, down from a high of 24% in April 2010 just after passage of the national health care law. A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that only 30% of Likely U.S. Voters now have a favorable opinion of the Tea Party. Half (49%) of voters have an unfavorable view of the movement. http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/january_2013/just_8_now_say_they_are_tea_party_members]
Quote:Tea Party Support Dwindles to Near-Record Low Fewer Americans (22%) now describe themselves as supporters of the Tea Party movement than did at the height of the movement in 2010, or even at the start of 2012. U.S. support for the Tea Party is at a low ebb at a time when key issues of concern for the movement -- funding for the Affordable Care Act and raising the U.S. debt ceiling -- are focal points in Washington. http://www.gallup.com/poll/164648/tea-party-support-dwindles-near-record-low.aspx]
Quote:There are lots of important percentages in American politics, from the 99 percent to the 47 percent, but this week's most important is the 22 percent. If you're struggling to understand why Republicans seem wedded to a confrontation over Obamacare that could lead to a government shutdown or debt default, or why Republican Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas says the American people are with him, despite the fact that most Americans say the GOP should just accept the fact that Obamacare is law of the land, or that voters oppose shutting down the government over the law by a three-to-one margin, look no further than the 22 percent. Thanks to gerrymandering, many Republicans are more worried about a primary challenge than losing in a general election—until that changes, the 22 percent will command outsize importance relative to their size. Nothing has made that more clear than the fight over government funding this week. While most Americans—and even most Republicans, in some polls—oppose the confrontation strategy, the 22 percent can't get enough of it. Take a Pew survey from this week, which asked respondents if lawmakers should "stand by their principles, even if the government shuts down," or "compromise, even on a budget you disagree with." Overall, a clear majority—57 percent of Americans—said compromise. But among tea-party-leaning Republicans, 71 percent said lawmakers should stand on principle. Just 20 percent of the tea partiers want legislators to compromise. But here's the most revealing bit: Non-tea-party Republicans favored compromise by a margin of 54 percent to 38 percent. In other words, Cruz isn't just at odds with most Americans, he's at odds with most Republicans. While a majority of Republicans support defunding Obamacare, a near-majority oppose threatening a government shutdown over the issue 48 percent to 36 percent. Not surprisingly, independents and Democrats oppose the strategy by far-larger margins. In fact, the only demographic unit that favored the confrontation strategy is those who identify with the tea party; they supported the shutdown approach by a 54 percent majority. This helps explain why Cruz took to Rush Limbaugh's airwaves just minutes after ending his Senate floor speech to slam his GOP colleagues as cowardly defeatists. And it helps explain which "American people" Ted Cruz is listening to when he says that he's heeding the will of the people. He's listening to the 22 percent, not the 59 percent who say he shouldn't shut down the government to defund Obamacare. http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/the-tea-party-we-are-the-22-percent-20130926
Sunday, October 13, 2013 12:59 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Funny thing is, FREM said exactly that when Bush was aiming for Unitary Executive. And it's true: Obama is simply following in Bush's footsteps.
Sunday, October 13, 2013 6:15 PM
Sunday, October 13, 2013 6:27 PM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Sunday, October 13, 2013 7:16 PM
MAGONSDAUGHTER
Sunday, October 13, 2013 8:11 PM
CHRISISALL
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Obama is incapable of free will. Gee, that doesn't sound the least bit racist.
Sunday, October 13, 2013 8:18 PM
Quote:Originally posted by MAL4PREZ: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Funny thing is, FREM said exactly that when Bush was aiming for Unitary Executive. And it's true: Obama is simply following in Bush's footsteps. Oh yes, I thought about pointing this out, but it's clear that rational discussion goes no where with the present incarnation of jongs. The cognitive dissonance is strong in that one.
Sunday, October 13, 2013 9:51 PM
Quote:Originally posted by chrisisall: Quote:Originally posted by MAL4PREZ: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Funny thing is, FREM said exactly that when Bush was aiming for Unitary Executive. And it's true: Obama is simply following in Bush's footsteps. Oh yes, I thought about pointing this out, but it's clear that rational discussion goes no where with the present incarnation of jongs. The cognitive dissonance is strong in that one. I sense the good in him- the conflict...
Monday, October 14, 2013 2:08 PM
SHINYGOODGUY
Quote:Originally posted by Jongsstraw: Quote:The Tea Party, Conservatives, and Republicans are terrorists, extremists, radicals, stupid, suicide bombers, and madmen who hate women, children, and old people. Maxine Waters, the Socialist, wants them all to go to Hell. David Plouffe tweeted today that Republicans are economic terrorists. Mr. Obama said Republicans are the ones who want 100% of everything they have asked for. But is that true? Forget what you think you know from this rhetoric and consider the following. Who is grabbing power for the Executive Branch of government? Who is disregarding Congress and the Separation of Powers? It isn’t John Boehner or the Tea Party or Mike Lee or Ted Cruz. They all want freedom for the American people. Who is building this incredible database on every American through Organizing for America (OFA)? It is the same man who is collecting our personal and financial information through the IRS; spying on us through the NSA; and collecting detailed information on our children thanks to Common Core. It is the man who is targeting conservatives, using the IRS. It is the man who is spying on reporters. Obama said, ”The Affordable Care Act is a law that passed the House. It passed the Senate; the Supreme Court ruled it constitutional. … and it is settled,” said Obama. However, Obama has violated the law 17 times – illegally. He delayed the employer mandate, the cap on out of pocket expenses, income verification, and endless numbers of deadlines specific to the law. He added almost 1500 waivers, many for his friends. SCOTUS ruled twice that the president cannot delay, amend or repeal parts of laws but he did. He ignores SCOTUS too. http://www.independentsentinel.com/whoever-silences-the-tea-party-silences-america/ What goes around comes around. Obama and the Dems will learn that in 2014 as they did in 2010.
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