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"While Kahan cautioned against thinking the results can be used to explain deep ideological fights over climate change and other politically relevant science, and he said the results wouldn’t change his negative views of the tea party"

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/tea-party-science-98488.html#ixz
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Which is where I figured you were all along.

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So you think that T Partiers in general know more about science, and that reflects well on you?

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Well, to rephrase the author, I don't know about the Tea Party in general, but I do know about YOU. And you specifically know less about... well, anything.... than most people here. Since this is a statistical finding, I guess that puts you more than three standard deviations from the norm... either here on this website or when measured against the TP. Which is where I figured you were all along.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
he analyzed the responses of more than 2,000 American adults recruited for another study and found that, on average, people who leaned liberal were more science literate than those who leaned conservative.

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Tea party members know more science than non-tea partiers.

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In fact, Tea Party members tend to be more scientifically literate than other self-described conservatives, who have slightly negative scores, overall. These findings should give both liberal and GOP establishment types pause over their caricatures of Tea Party constituents. -

http://www.iwf.org/blog/2792335/New-Study-Finds-Tea-Party-Members-are-
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Originally posted by AURaptor:


Some folks are REALLY not going to like this !

A finding in a study on the relationship between science literacy and political ideology surprised the Yale professor behind it: Tea party members know more science than non-tea partiers.

Yale law professor Dan Kahan posted on his blog this week that he analyzed the responses of more than 2,000 American adults recruited for another study and found that, on average, people who leaned liberal were more science literate than those who leaned conservative.

Kahan wrote that not only did the findings surprise him, they embarrassed him.
“I’ve got to confess, though, I found this result surprising. As I pushed the button to run the analysis on my computer, I fully expected I’d be shown a modest negative correlation between identifying with the Tea Party and science comprehension,” Kahan wrote.

“But then again, I don’t know a single person who identifies with the tea party,” he continued. “All my impressions come from watching cable tv — & I don’t watch Fox News very often — and reading the ‘paper’ (New York Times daily, plus a variety of politics-focused Internet sites like Huffington Post and POLITICO). I’m a little embarrassed, but mainly, I’m just glad that I no longer hold this particular mistaken view.”



Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/tea-party-science-98488.html#ixz
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So he was embarrassed to learn that people in the Tea Party weren't as stupid as he thought they were? He's just another a lib douchebag with a left-wing axe to grind.

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So he was embarrassed to learn that people in the Tea Party weren't as stupid as he thought they were? He's just another a lib douchebag with a left-wing axe to grind.

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Actually, he's a rare bird, an HONEST liberal, who at least has the stones to admit that his prejudices were wrong.

Sincere humility in a Liberal. More scarce than Bigfoot sightings.

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Just to review:

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In fact, Tea Party members tend to be more scientifically literate than other self-described conservatives, who have slightly negative scores, overall.

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t-pers smarter than other self described conservatives...

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Originally posted by AURaptor:... on average, people who leaned liberal were more science literate than those who leaned conservative.

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Just so we're clear, in order of science literacy, it's conservatives on the bottom, t-pers middle, liberals brightest - check.

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Truth is, I don't think anyone in Congress is stupid or dumb - can't get their just with sheer determination or blind luck, you have to have some smarts (duh!). Which is why it's even harder for me to understand some of the things they come up with. Like finding out Jefferson was a slave owner - like wtf? How was he able to be so brilliant and forward thinking and yet so oblivious to such a basic human crime?

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In fact, Tea Party members tend to be more scientifically literate than other self-described conservatives, who have slightly negative scores, overall.

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t-pers smarter than other self described conservatives...

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Originally posted by AURaptor:... on average, people who leaned liberal were more science literate than those who leaned conservative.

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Just so we're clear, in order of science literacy, it's conservatives on the bottom, t-pers middle, liberals brightest - check.

Truth is, I don't think anyone in Congress is stupid or dumb - can't get their just with sheer determination or blind luck, you have to have some smarts (duh!). Which is why it's even harder for me to understand some of the things they come up with. Like finding out Jefferson was a slave owner - like wtf? How was he able to be so brilliant and forward thinking and yet so oblivious to such a basic human crime?

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So you think that T Partiers in general know more about science, and that reflects well on you?-signy

I *think*?- rappy

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What difference does it make what my personal views are on this matter ?

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You're ignoring the YALE study which seems to dispute a long held view point of the Left, that TEA party types are nothing but ignorant rubes, who 'cling to their guns and bibles', and just watch FOX News.

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And I don't need any study to validate what I already know of myself. My interest in the natural sciences goes back to before Reagan was elected. It has zero to do w/ the TEA party.

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You project your dislike for me and my views, and just like the author, have a false impression of me. You do NOT know me, one jot, it seems.

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It's clear, that when I present objective material on the issue of the TEA party, YOU can't help but make it a personal attack upon what I *know*

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*ETA - And as for your little thread on Firefly and Founding Fathers, it sounds real interesting. I'd even participate, were it not a false thread, presented under a false premise, and intent only to insult and mock myself and others.

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But science isn't a series of facts. It's not a noun, it is- in essence- a verb. Science isn't something you "know", it's something you "DO".

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
But science isn't a series of facts. It's not a noun, it is- in essence- a verb. Science isn't something you "know", it's something you "DO".

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*cheers*

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