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Rush Limbaugh Tells Men To Sexually Harass Women And Then Blame Breasts For It

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Thursday, December 12, 2013 9:32 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


During his radio show on Monday, right-wing pervert club leader Rush Limbaugh said it was “human nature” for men to ogle women’s breasts and that liberals were trying to ban men from even looking at women. So Limbaugh came up with a plan for men to ogle women: tell them their breasts were asking for it. That’s right, Rush Limbaugh advised men to sexually harass women and then blame their breasts for it.
Quote:

I know a lot of you, you hear this thing -- a bunch of leftists want to try to stop men from looking at women and you think, 'they can't do that.' That's not the point. Whether they can or can't, it will gain momentum. And it may not be for years, but this is who they are. This is -- this is how inane and inviolate they are of basic human nature. It's one of the biggest ways to understand liberals. They just despise human nature and try to alter it and change it and create it. Because many of them just don't fit in with it in many ways.

But there's a way around this, guys. You got to have fun with this kind of stuff, as you know. So let me offer a first suggestion, the first way to deal with this that came into my mind. You find yourself staring, looking at, casually glancing at a woman, but you know that it's now socially taboo. You shouldn't be doing it. And you think everybody is noticing you doing it and condemning you in their minds. You shouldn't -- so you walk up to the woman and say, "Will you please ask your breasts to stop staring at my eyes?"

Try that. Might help. And you don't know 'til you try it. http://mediamatters.org/video/2013/12/09/the-rush-limbaugh-guide-to-se
xual-harassment/197197


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Thursday, December 12, 2013 9:51 AM

AGENTROUKA


I love how he lumps "casually glancing" in with "staring" as if the difference between the two isn't the entire point of contention.

This is just... really sad.

I also love how he pretends only liberal women would find that behavior offensive. I know for a fact that my Catholic, Republican, Texas-raised friend (and her equally conservative ex-army husband, or any of their decidedly non-liberal, gun-loving friends, male or female) would be be quicker to turn that into an angry confrontation than liberal me.

Jeeeeeeez.

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Thursday, December 12, 2013 10:12 AM

AURAPTOR

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If you don't think that evolution hasn't hard wired ( no pun ) sex into men's brains, you're uninformed. Yes, we notice women's bodies. Can't help it. But our actions, we can control.
Didn't hear that part of Rush's show, so I'm suspect of how this thread is presenting the facts .

Sexual attractiveness predates humanity by a long shot. To totally deny it out of some misguided PC femanist objections is ... Laughable.

I suspect Rush was again making a joke, just to piss off the feminazi crowd.

Guess it worked.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

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Thursday, December 12, 2013 10:29 AM

AGENTROUKA


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
If you don't think that evolution hasn't hard wired ( no pun ) sex into men's brains, you're uninformed. Yes, we notice women's bodies. Can't help it. But our actions, we can control.
Didn't hear that part of Rush's show, so I'm suspect of how this thread is presenting the facts .

Sexual attractiveness predates humanity by a long shot. To totally deny it out of some misguided PC femanist objections is ... Laughable.

I suspect Rush was again making a joke, just to piss off the feminazi crowd.

Guess it worked.



a) Sex is also hard-wired into women's brains. Why is that part always left out? Oh, right, because the point is using "It's what guys do!" as an excuse for transgressive behavior.

b) Seems to be (lame joke or not) that he's giving a pretty precise account of how he think men should BEHAVE. So yeah, you did see that right there. That nice aspect of NOT making your own urges someone else's problem isn't there because.. it isn't there. He directly tells people to make it someone else's problem. He's not even differentiating to target "aggressive liberals". Conservative women are just as deserving of being approached and served with that lame line, because they dare to be in possession of, you know, anatomy.

c) You're misrepresenting what is upsetting about it. It's not that people find breasts attractive (Not just men do. Straight women and gay men? Also do.) and might casually glance. It's when it goes beyond that and a person with breasts is STARED at and objectified that it becomes a problem. To Rush, not staring is apparently equated with denying the concept of human sexuality. Oh, wait, male sexuality. Can't forget that sexual women are an entirely different category: sluts. Or is that only if they use birth control?

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Thursday, December 12, 2013 10:57 AM

BYTEMITE


I have no breasts, I have no thigh gap, and my ass is less than spectacular. I dress like tacky sweaters and baggy jeans and heavy boots are going out of style. Stop asking me if I'm a prostitute!

Seriously, human nature to oggle or not, it's also human nature to dislike feeling like a piece of meat being sized up by a predator. It's human nature to want to be left ALONE.

I just want my crappy 99 cent lunch burrito without the cat calls and solicitations. :(

And I hope this isn't related to that story about the one lady suing her company for firing her because two creepy maintenance guys kept hanging around her cubicle and staring at her and touching themselves. Because if Rush is defending the creepy maintenance guys, that's a new low.

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Thursday, December 12, 2013 11:25 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Byte -



Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

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Thursday, December 12, 2013 11:25 AM

STORYMARK


We have all kinds of impulses we have grown past as reasoning beings. Saying it's hard-wired is just childish. Grow up and exert self control.




"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Thursday, December 12, 2013 11:33 AM

MAL4PREZ


Quote:

Originally posted by AgentRouka:
Can't forget that sexual women are an entirely different category: sluts. Or is that only if they use birth control?



BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURN!

Ever notice that the men who are so defensive of their "right" to ogle and harass women are the same ones who are terrified of gay men. They don't want to be treated the way they treat women.


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Thursday, December 12, 2013 11:40 AM

BYTEMITE


I have considered the water pony toy. Oh how it has been contemplated.

However, I determined that fold up glider wings in a backpack would be more useful. It also doubles the surface area exerted over the water in a way that Archimedes would approve.

In a pinch, lining coat sleeves with reverse grip knives also seems to work.

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Thursday, December 12, 2013 11:49 AM

BYTEMITE


Quote:

Originally posted by MAL4PREZ:
Quote:

Originally posted by AgentRouka:
Can't forget that sexual women are an entirely different category: sluts. Or is that only if they use birth control?



BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURN!

Ever notice that the men who are so defensive of their "right" to ogle and harass women are the same ones who are terrified of gay men. They don't want to be treated the way they treat women.





https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7939991552/hA0647A4B/

A thing I found and cannot testify to the accuracy.

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Thursday, December 12, 2013 11:50 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:

We have all kinds of impulses we have grown past as reasoning beings. Saying it's hard-wired is just childish. Grow up and exert self control.




"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"



It IS hard wired, and we DO have self control.
But we can't ignore millions of years of evolution. Try all you want, can't be done.

It's not 1 or the other.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Thursday, December 12, 2013 11:53 AM

BYTEMITE


I'm just sitting over here being asexual and not bothering anyone.

This is like saying we are hardwired to eat meat so being vegetarian is impossible. I LOVE the taste of meat. But it makes me SAD.

You have instincts formed from millions of years of evolution. Whether you act on them is another thing. A chihuahua is not going to go after a damned moose unless it really wants that Darwin award.

And, frankly, modern cultural norms about what is feminine beauty hardly qualify for some sort of umbrella protection of or allowance for skeezy courting behaviours.

I doubt the defenders of male instincts here would be quite as interested in going after the full figured callipygian ladies of the past, who tended to have modest chest endowments despite their size. In fact, previous ideas of beauty tended towards "pear shaped" as opposed to hourglass or svelte.

And this is not even getting into the countries where the breast is not sexualized at all and not covered.

In short, I don't buy it. Breasts are a fetish, nothing more. Your fetishes are none of my business, but in this society we prefer you indulge your fetishes in private, in mutually consensual activities. Public indecency and non-consensual harrassment towards strangers or business/social acquaintances tends to be prosecuted as such.

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Thursday, December 12, 2013 12:52 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


That last paragraph was beautiful, Byte, thank you.

Everyone knows perfectly well why Rushbo says the things he does; just like Rap, to get attention, to get an audience. How far he is willing to go to do so is also, just like Rap, disgusting.

Quote:

Ladies! Please tell your breasts to stop ogling Rush Limbaugh’s eyeballs all of the time!

Rush Limbaugh has had it up to here with all these liberal women who don’t like it when gross dudes blatantly stare at their breasts and drool all over themselves. Mostly because they hate human nature. Anyone who likes human nature would simply adore being mentally undressed by the likes of Rush Limbaugh. Thus, he has proposed a “clever” solution to put those man-hating harpies in their proper place.

Yes. That might help. Particularly if you weren’t sure how to manage becoming the creepy dude at the bar that everyone is avoiding because he says inappropriate things to women he does not know. Or if you needed help spilling a drink on your crotch. It may help with that.

Now, obviously, looking at other human beings isn’t socially taboo now, or really, at any other time. We all do it, but you know, we try not to be too obvious or sleazy about it. Blatantly staring creepily and directly at the breasts of a woman with whom you are not acquainted has never really been socially acceptable. Not because of feminists, but it’s just a weird thing to do. As is walking up to a woman you don’t know and saying anything about her breasts. Call me crazy, but I don’t think it’s just “liberals” that might have a problem with that. http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/211009/ladies-please-tell-your-breasts
-to-stop-ogling-rush-limbaughs-eyeballs-all-of-the-time/
]


As to the "rest" of what Limbaugh said, which Rap is certain will show that he's not really the insensitive lout his remarks show him to be, the whole thing can be found at http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2013/12/09/libs_want_men_to_stop_loo
king_at_women
Some of the rest of what he said:
Quote:

Folks, look, you can sit here and laugh at this and you can think it's a joke…. This is real, and while this is ludicrous and it is in direct violation of God-created nature, these are liberals. It's who they are, it's what they are, and they're dead serious -- and they are the thought police. This is no different than political correctness of thought, and what they want to try to is establish is a taboo. Men looking at women is insulting. Men looking at women is part of War on Women. Men gazing at women objectifies women, puts women down.
It facilitates the notion that women are not seen as full-fledged citizens and humans and what have you. That they are nothing more than sex objects, and this is just another way these people are trying to get to it. I mean, look, it is ridiculous, and it's laughable. It's hilarious, it's hysterical, but the thing is, these people are dead serious. And they are not going to be laughed at by the left. They're not gonna be laughed at and made fun of by the media. They're not.
It's gonna be seriously accepted and studied, and there will be people who digest it and think maybe they're on to something. I mean, it's the kind of study that leftists will hold up when they talk about the rape culture. "Men are Natural Predators!" This is part of that. Sex is a weapon. Sex and objectifying women is how men dominate and overpower women -- and, of course, the unattractive women are left out of all of this. It's discrimination to boot because men do not spend nearly as much time looking and ogling at unattractive women. They're wrong about that, by the way. Just different thoughts take place, but the gazes still happen.
You can't help it.



I won't bore you with the rest, Limbaugh is predictable, as are his callers…like the first one who came on and suggested we put women who are "lookers" into burqas…. Reading the whole transcript sure gives a clear picture of how Limbaugh's mind works, and it ain't pretty.


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Thursday, December 12, 2013 1:44 PM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by MAL4PREZ:
Quote:

Originally posted by AgentRouka:
Can't forget that sexual women are an entirely different category: sluts. Or is that only if they use birth control?



BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURN!

Ever notice that the men who are so defensive of their "right" to ogle and harass women are the same ones who are terrified of gay men. They don't want to be treated the way they treat women.




Oh, I certainly have noticed this.

We have a shining example of it in this very thread, ignoring this very point. Im sure we're like, totally surprised.




"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Thursday, December 12, 2013 1:47 PM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:

We have all kinds of impulses we have grown past as reasoning beings. Saying it's hard-wired is just childish. Grow up and exert self control.




"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"



It IS hard wired, and we DO have self control.
But we can't ignore millions of years of evolution. Try all you want, can't be done.

It's not 1 or the other.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall



Maybe you can't. Plenty of grown up men can, and DO control their urges every day.

But I can believe you are incapable of self control. Just another in a long list of things you can't manage.

Meanwhile, those of us with an evolved cerebral cortex have learned that we need not always bow before baser urges.

Sorry you can't understand that. Guess draggin' those knuckles takes too much of your focus.




"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Thursday, December 12, 2013 2:42 PM

AGENTROUKA


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
It IS hard wired, and we DO have self control.
But we can't ignore millions of years of evolution. Try all you want, can't be done.



I don't understand what the point of that second sentence is. The first already sums it up. Unless you're arguing that people should not use that self control.

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Thursday, December 12, 2013 2:48 PM

FREMDFIRMA


Byte
Quote:

And I hope this isn't related to that story about the one lady suing her company for firing her because two creepy maintenance guys kept hanging around her cubicle and staring at her and touching themselves. Because if Rush is defending the creepy maintenance guys, that's a new low.

http://jonathanturley.org/2013/12/06/whiff-of-sexism-fifth-circuit-rul
es-constantly-sniffing-woman-is-form-of-sexual-harassment
/
That was seriously creepy - was I the judge I would have sentenced them to 30 days in the local humane society kennel, cause if yer gonna ACT like an animal...

Mal4
Quote:

Ever notice that the men who are so defensive of their "right" to ogle and harass women are the same ones who are terrified of gay men. They don't want to be treated the way they treat women.

Yes, and it's HI-larious, since not having those kind of bizarre hangups that other folks have, I flirt with EVERY DAMN BODY, and sometimes admittedly I do it to overly straight laced people wrapped wayyyy too tight just to fuck with em.

Patterson put it best when he figured this out - "I thought you were a fruit, but you're just fruit loops!"

-Frem

PS. - Re: catcalls, this one I am torn about, I think it's quite situational, cause I might do so to someone I know (regardless of gender) as a gesture of affection and general celebration of sexuality as a whole, but to a stranger I think it'd border on harrassment, at least.

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Thursday, December 12, 2013 3:52 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:


It IS hard wired, and we DO have self control.
But we can't ignore millions of years of evolution. Try all you want, can't be done.

It's not 1 or the other.



Do you have self control or not? It's either yes or no.

People who can't control their sexual responses are usually considered a danger to society and locked up.

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Thursday, December 12, 2013 4:13 PM

BYTEMITE


Frem- Ah, so THAT'S where I saw that article. I forgot about the bizarre sniffing. Anyway yeah that's what I was referring to.

Quote:

Patterson put it best when he figured this out - "I thought you were a fruit, but you're just fruit loops!"


I call it the Bugs Bunny school of messing with people's heads. Can be highly effective, especially if you you have no inhibitions over gender roles.

I can whistle a tune, but not loud. Can't do the other kinds of whistles.

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Thursday, December 12, 2013 4:35 PM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


Of all the Limbaugh quotes I've heard, this has to be the stupidest. It's completely, painfully stupid.

It's not personal. It's just war.

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Thursday, December 12, 2013 4:38 PM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
During his radio show on Monday, right-wing pervert club leader Rush Limbaugh said it was “human nature” for men to ogle women’s breasts and that liberals were trying to ban men from even looking at women. So Limbaugh came up with a plan for men to ogle women: tell them their breasts were asking for it. That’s right, Rush Limbaugh advised men to sexually harass women and then blame their breasts for it.
Quote:

I know a lot of you, you hear this thing -- a bunch of leftists want to try to stop men from looking at women and you think, 'they can't do that.' That's not the point. Whether they can or can't, it will gain momentum. And it may not be for years, but this is who they are. This is -- this is how inane and inviolate they are of basic human nature. It's one of the biggest ways to understand liberals. They just despise human nature and try to alter it and change it and create it. Because many of them just don't fit in with it in many ways.

But there's a way around this, guys. You got to have fun with this kind of stuff, as you know. So let me offer a first suggestion, the first way to deal with this that came into my mind. You find yourself staring, looking at, casually glancing at a woman, but you know that it's now socially taboo. You shouldn't be doing it. And you think everybody is noticing you doing it and condemning you in their minds. You shouldn't -- so you walk up to the woman and say, "Will you please ask your breasts to stop staring at my eyes?"

Try that. Might help. And you don't know 'til you try it. http://mediamatters.org/video/2013/12/09/the-rush-limbaugh-guide-to-se
xual-harassment/197197




Media Matters, Nazi Party, same people.

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Thursday, December 12, 2013 5:09 PM

STORYMARK


Always count on zit to make sure rappy isn't the dumbest motherfucker in the thread.




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Thursday, December 12, 2013 5:33 PM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Always count on zit to make sure rappy isn't the dumbest motherfucker in the thread.




"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"


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Thursday, December 12, 2013 6:20 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:

Maybe you can't. Plenty of grown up men can, and DO control their urges every day.



Your selective reading skills are in top form, I see.

Quote:


But I can believe you are incapable of self control. Just another in a long list of things you can't manage.



Based on what, exactly?

Quote:



Meanwhile, those of us with an evolved cerebral cortex have learned that we need not always bow before baser urges.



But those urges are there, and that's all I said.

Quote:


Sorry you can't understand that. Guess draggin' those knuckles takes too much of your focus.



Hey, I embrace my evolution. You act as if you're some how removed from it. I find that funny.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Thursday, December 12, 2013 6:24 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:


It IS hard wired, and we DO have self control.
But we can't ignore millions of years of evolution. Try all you want, can't be done.

It's not 1 or the other.



Do you have self control or not? It's either yes or no.

People who can't control their sexual responses are usually considered a danger to society and locked up.



If I didn't display self control, I'd never be allowed back into the strip clubs.



Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Thursday, December 12, 2013 7:10 PM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


Auraptor your last line is redundant, and detracts from the punchline. Lose it!

It's not personal. It's just war.

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Thursday, December 12, 2013 7:15 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


@ kpo -

You're right. It did seem a bit too much,huh?

Thanks for the 2nd opinion.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Thursday, December 12, 2013 7:26 PM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


lol, no prob.

It's not personal. It's just war.

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Thursday, December 12, 2013 10:53 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


This guy is obviously justing being a provocateur. The only way I know about him is from reading posts here, but its clear he's a shock jock of some kind.

Only an eejit would take him seriously.

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Thursday, December 12, 2013 11:00 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
This guy is obviously justing being a provocateur. The only way I know about him is from reading posts here, but its clear he's a shock jock of some kind.

Only an eejit would take him seriously.



Provocateur,raconteur, monsieur, ...


Yes. All you know of me is what you read here. ( or elsewhere, if you're into cyber stalking )


But no, I'm no sort of shock jock,of any kind.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Thursday, December 12, 2013 11:29 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
But no, I'm no sort of shock jock,of any kind.


You're a coward, and a piss pot.
:)

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Friday, December 13, 2013 2:10 AM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
This guy is obviously justing being a provocateur. The only way I know about him is from reading posts here, but its clear he's a shock jock of some kind.

Only an eejit would take him seriously.



Provocateur,raconteur, monsieur, ...


Yes. All you know of me is what you read here. ( or elsewhere, if you're into cyber stalking )


But no, I'm no sort of shock jock,of any kind.




i was talking about Rush. I'm not interested enough to stalk you. Barely interested enough inwhat Rush has to say.

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Friday, December 13, 2013 4:12 AM

FREMDFIRMA


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
You're a coward, and a piss pot.
:)


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Gets a softball bat ready and snickers


-F

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Friday, December 13, 2013 6:31 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
But no, I'm no sort of shock jock,of any kind.


You're a coward, and a piss pot.
:)



Because my coat is a brownish color,and I got it on sale ?

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And Fremmie, you'd need 'em to have half a chance



@MD - I misunderstood ya then. That makes more sense now. And I forgot 'entertainer' too. Rush never claims to be a " serious anchor ", though he does claim to be America's anchor. Because he knows saying so annoys some folks. Heehee.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

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Friday, December 13, 2013 9:00 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Lot's of scantily clad young ladies here in Fort Lauderdale. There's temptation all around all the time. Years ago my daughter would invite her friends over to hang out by the pool. So there I'd be at the barbeque surrounded by high school girls running around in bikinis. Well, no one said life is fair.

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Friday, December 13, 2013 12:26 PM

BYTEMITE


The amount of innuendo in this thread is just too damn high.

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Friday, December 13, 2013 5:14 PM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by AgentRouka:
I love how he lumps "casually glancing" in with "staring" as if the difference between the two isn't the entire point of contention.

This is just... really sad.




No, what's REALLY sad is the whole point behind this issue, and that's the idea that some want to make merely LOOKING at a woman to be *illegal.

Hell, why not just put 'em all in Burkas ? Seems that's where the feminazis are headed with this asinine idea for a law.

Seriously, by whose standards will it be judged that a man was "ogling " a woman. Not all cultures view such things the same. Many Europeans view looking at a person for more than a glance differently than we do here in the U.S. Obviously, if a guy is bird dogging a woman and she's uncomfortable, something can be done or said. But to make it a CRIME ? Really?

I think that's what is ( purposefully ) being overlooked here. Folks are over reacting to Rush's remarks instead of the initial nuttiness of making it illegal to look at a woman.

* ETA - Clarification. Not " illegal " per statute. Not yet, at least.

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Friday, December 13, 2013 5:25 PM

BYTEMITE


Name the state and the bill.

Otherwise I don't believe it's a thing that's happening.

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Friday, December 13, 2013 5:50 PM

OONJERAH


Quote Auraptor: "Folks are over reacting to Rush's remarks instead
of the initial nuttiness of making it illegal to look at a woman."


Gosh. And here I thought Rush's remarks were overtly, intentionally
incendiary ... you know, as if his ratings have dropped, & he's gotta
stoop even lower to get 'em back up.


====================== :>
All I suggest is a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest. ~Paul Simon

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Friday, December 13, 2013 5:58 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:



Seriously, by whose standards will it be judged that a man was "ogling " a woman. Not all cultures view such things the same. Many Europeans view looking at a person for more than a glance differently than we do here in the U.S. Obviously, if a guy is bird dogging a woman and she's uncomfortable, something can be done or said. But to make it a CRIME ? Really?





Good luck staring at a woman's breats, then. I mean, really you should do it as much as you can, seeing how they only exist for that purpose. You and Jongs should get together and you can both ogle his daughter and her friends in bikinis. No one will think you're a pair of old desperate creeps, honestly. They'll just think you're being 'European'. I say you should also whistle, suck your teeth and grab your crotch as well, just to show your full appreciation.

I guarantee they'll really enjoy the experience. Unless of course they are just bikini clad man hating feminazis.

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Friday, December 13, 2013 6:02 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


I already DO stare at women's breasts.

Duh!

*ETA -

Democratic National Committee calls for Republican boycott of The Daily Caller, Rush Limbaugh

The Democratic National Committee (DNC) has called for Republican party leaders to boycott The Daily Caller in an attempt to suppress the First Amendment rights of this news organization.

The DNC called for the Republican National Committee (RNC) to block The Daily Caller from interviewing Republican leaders and also called for a boycott of radio legend Rush Limbaugh, who cited a recent Daily Caller piece defending the constitutional right for men to be able to look at attractive women in public places.

The Daily Caller refuses to be intimidated.

“Earlier this week, Limbaugh mocked ‘liberals’ for criticizing men who stare at women’s breasts, encouraging them to instead approach women and say, ‘Will you please ask your breasts to stop staring at my eyes?,’” according to an email that DNC deputy communications director Lily Adams sent to supporters at 1:42 PM Thursday.

“This Sunday, the Daily Caller — the Rush Limbaugh of websites— piled on with a full-throated defense of sexual harassment,” according to Adams’ email, which quoted two paragraphs from my December 8 piece “Liberals want to stop men from checking out women.”

“And if you happen to be a woman who isn’t employed by the Democratic National Committee or the New York Times, maybe you’re really not all that offended by these sorts of things,” I wrote on December 8, referring to the constant attempts by the DNC and pressure groups like Media Matters for America to censor the free speech of conservative icons like Rush Limbaugh and Pat Buchanan based on trumped-claims of political incorrectness.

Adams made clear in her email that she does, in fact, work for the Democratic National Committee, and she is, in fact, offended by our comments.



Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/12/13/democratic-national-committee-calls-
for-republican-boycott-of-the-daily-caller-rush-limbaugh/#ixzz2nOocUTtR
]


The December 8th Piece -

Quote:

In the progressive future, men will not be able to look at women’s bodies because that is a terrible thing to do — and science says so.

Researchers have offered a definitive report into the science of the male “objectifying gaze” in the December 2013 volume of “Sex Roles: A Journal of Research” (Volume 69, Issue 11-12, pp 557-570).

“Although objectification theory suggests that women frequently experience the objectifying gaze with many adverse consequences, there is scant research examining the nature and causes of the objectifying gaze for perceivers. The main purpose of this work was to examine the objectifying gaze toward women via eye tracking technology,” according to the abstract of “My Eyes Are Up Here: The Nature of the Objectifying Gaze Toward Women” by Sarah J. Gervais, Arianne M. Holland, and Michael D. Dodd.


“Consistent with our main hypothesis, we found that participants focused on women’s chests and waists more and faces less when they were appearance-focused (vs. personality-focused). Moreover, we found that this effect was particularly pronounced for women with high (vs. average and low) ideal body shapes in line with hypotheses,” according to the report.

This is the kind of study MSNBC commentators can hold up when they’re talking about “rape culture.” Because men are just all Bashar al-Assad and sex is their chemical weapon. Fifty-one percent of the U.S. population is a victimized group now. Don’t you know? Women are like Indians now. You can’t give them a once-over, a polite grin, and be on your way. You can’t notice the fruits of their several-hour morning project of preparing themselves to be looked at. Pretty soon, looking at a woman’s chest will legally be a “hate” crime instead of a love crime.

It’s already started. There was the Massachusetts secretary who sued her boss for staring at her breasts. There was the social media uproar when two tech conference presenters in San Francisco made a joke presentation for an app based on men’s desire to stare at breasts.

This is what the progressives exist to do. They take away our activities. If it’s an activity and it’s kind of fun or pleasurable, the progressives are going to take it away.

That’s the very basis of their personality type. They’re the regulators. The hall monitors.

Maybe catching a side glance of some cleavage on the subway isn’t for you. Fine. But for those of us who enjoy that, it’s one more thing that we’re allowed to do in this country. I’m not big on skiing, but if I see somebody walking down the street with some skis I’m cool with that. Why ban things that you might want to try sometime?

I’m not saying looking at tits is any kind of noble pursuit. But it’s one more freedom. It’s one more thing that has been allowed in this country since the time of James Madison and Thomas Jefferson. One more thing that we’re not going to be allowed to do in the progressive future.

And you know what else? A lot of women like it.



Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/12/08/liberals-want-to-stop-men-from-check
ing-out-women/#ixzz2nOondT8z



So, not so much new legislation - yet - but a report which basically is laying the ground work for such nonsense, down the line.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

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Friday, December 13, 2013 6:48 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
I already DO stare at women's breasts.

Duh!




I bet you do.


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Friday, December 13, 2013 6:50 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
I already DO stare at women's breasts.

Duh!




I bet you do.



I'm a guy. Would you want me to lie and say I didn't ?



Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

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Friday, December 13, 2013 8:41 PM

MAL4PREZ


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
I'm a guy. Would you want me to lie and say I didn't ?



1) So clearly when you see a pretty set of titties you turn into a slavering troll and run at them with saliva trailing everywhere, right? "Evolution" leaves you no choice but to act like a rabid dog, right?

2) Does your attraction give you the right to dribble drool on the body of every woman you find attractive and she has no right to complain?

3) Does every gay man who may find *you* attractive have a right to drool on your uber-hot male body?

Please answer these three simple questions explicitly if you are intellectually capable. Yeah, I doubt you are. And yeah, that's a dare. A triple dog dare.


*---------------------------------------*
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Friday, December 13, 2013 11:13 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Please answer these three simple questions explicitly if you are intellectually capable. Yeah, I doubt you are. And yeah, that's a dare. A triple dog dare.
*Gets popcorn, waits for rappy's return.*

Meanwhile... evolution ain't such a hot model to follow anyway, so I'm not sure we should be using it as OUR model for our behavior or our economy or our society or the way we treat people (social Darwinism). Heck, entire species have either gotten into evolutionary dead-ends which led to their demise, or entire species couldn't evolve their way out of a changed environment, and died. The history of the world is littered with species that evolution randomly discarded.

I thought we were supposed to be intelligent species, masters of our fate. Better than evolution.

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Saturday, December 14, 2013 1:24 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by MAL4PREZ:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
I'm a guy. Would you want me to lie and say I didn't ?



1) So clearly when you see a pretty set of titties you turn into a slavering troll and run at them with saliva trailing everywhere, right? "Evolution" leaves you no choice but to act like a rabid dog, right?



Oh,we have a choice. Some how I keep saying that, yet it keeps sailing over the heads of some folks here. Dunno why that is.

Quote:



2) Does your attraction give you the right to dribble drool on the body of every woman you find attractive and she has no right to complain?



Now that's just ridiculous.

Quote:


3) Does every gay man who may find *you* attractive have a right to drool on your uber-hot male body?




It's not a matter of 'rights'. And what is your fascination on drooling ? That's pretty gross. Where'd you come up w/ that nonsense anyways ? All I said ,and it's not even debatable, is that humans have basic natural responses. Doesn't mean they MUST obey them, or are compelled to act upon them. Honestly, this is how Muslim zealots react to seeing a woman's bare ankle. " Well hell, she flashed me her sleeveless arm, so I just assumed she wanted me to sex her up! What else was I suppose to do ? "

Really? My god, over react much ?

Quote:




Please answer these three simple questions explicitly if you are intellectually capable. Yeah, I doubt you are. And yeah, that's a dare. A triple dog dare



Now you're just being mean. And for no good reason.

Why so serious ?


And Sig.. better than evolution ? Wow. You really don't understand much about it at all, do you ? It's not a " choice ". Evolution is a natural process. It involves many factors. We can't merely WISH ourselves around it. It doesn't work that way.


Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

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Saturday, December 14, 2013 1:37 AM

BYTEMITE


Quote:

Honestly, this is how Muslim zealots react to seeing a woman's bare ankle. " Well hell, she flashed me her sleeveless arm, so I just assumed she wanted me to sex her up! What else was I suppose to do ? "


I think the reason we're objecting is because yes, this is EXACTLY like that. But with boobs instead of a glimpse of an ankle or wrist or a stray hair.

Is it possible that maybe bare skin or cleavage itself isn't itself an indication to come hither... But rather COME HITHER is an indication to come hither?

That is, you're sexualizing appearance, when maybe it's BEHAVIOUR that's the biggest indicator of receptiveness.

Unless willingness is no longer a turn-on. I confess I'm not exactly with the modern techniques.

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Saturday, December 14, 2013 1:40 AM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


So what you are saying is this:

That evolution programs men to stare at breasts (except of course those societies where breats are not covered and they are not considered sexual characteristics, but anyway)

Men don't have to follow their so called evolutionary responses. In fact men who don't control their responses to breasts are in the same boat as Muslim zealots who insist on women covering themselves save they tempt a man.

So you know you are arguing against Rush, right? And most of what you have said previously.

On another note, women have evolutionary responses too. Or does the likes of Rush consider us sexless save to be objects for men's pleasurable viewing. I like men's bodies. I like well developed arms and chests, and a nice bum. But I am damn sure that as an older woman, if I started staring, and making 'cor' remarks, that attention would be unwelcome, kind of pervy and embarressing, no?

So yes, we like nice bodies, male and female, and we can admire them (discreetly if we are not involved with the person - whoop away with delight if you are) without treating the person with tthe body as a mere object.

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Saturday, December 14, 2013 3:32 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

And Sig.. better than evolution ? Wow. You really don't understand much about it at all, do you ? It's not a " choice ". Evolution is a natural process. It involves many factors. We can't merely WISH ourselves around it. It doesn't work that way.
No, YOU don't understand much about it. Evolution is a natural process, but since when have we been content with just letting nature run its course? We use antibiotics, right? We live in houses. We use birth control. We got rid of big predators. We've modified our environment- both social and natural- far beyond what we originally evolved under. We're no longer evolving under natural circumstances, but under circumstances that we've modified unconsciously. What's the point of all of our big-brain thinking if we can't modify our social and economic circumstances- and therefore our evolution- on purpose?

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Saturday, December 14, 2013 3:36 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

But rather COME HITHER is an indication to come hither? That is, you're sexualizing appearance, when maybe it's BEHAVIOUR that's the biggest indicator of receptiveness.Unless willingness is no longer a turn-on. I confess I'm not exactly with the modern techniques.
BINGO! Going back to my personal observations of rappy's interactions with women (and his dream of being stuck on an elevator with 14-year-old girls, or taking Jessica Alba from behind by surprise) I think he's porn-educated.

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