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Our lord and savior - Barack Obama.

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Wednesday, December 18, 2013 4:23 PM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Walters IS a Left winger, in case you didn't know.

She's the grande dame of Left wing corporate news in the media.



That maybe true, but she does not speak for the left as a whole. Unlike the right each of us are capable if independant thought.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Wednesday, December 18, 2013 4:52 PM

STORYMARK


One again, the raptard is pulling his favorite bullshit.


When someone on the right says something dumb, they're only speaking for themselves.

If someone on the left says something dumb - they speak for ALL.

Why do people keep falling for this POS' tactics?!?






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Wednesday, December 18, 2013 4:52 PM

BIGDAMNNOBODY


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Originally posted by Niki2:
I could go on all day, but now it's getting boring. I'll leave this little dog to play with his little bone all by himself...


And I'm sure you mean it, this time.

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Wednesday, December 18, 2013 10:25 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by M52NICKERSON:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Walters IS a Left winger, in case you didn't know.

She's the grande dame of Left wing corporate news in the media.



That maybe true, but she does not speak for the left as a whole. Unlike the right each of us are capable if independant thought.




You know, no ONE person speaks for an entire group. We all get that. But when it's been shown, time and time again, how members of the Left and centre ALL repeat the same thing, over and over again, a clearer and clearer image emerges. It stops being mere isolated incidents and random comments, and more valid.

I get why some would not like to admit it, but in the face of overwhelming facts and evidence, it's beyond a moot point.

You really do look silly in trying to deny it.


Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Wednesday, December 18, 2013 10:27 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
One again, the raptard is pulling his favorite bullshit.


When someone on the right says something dumb, they're only speaking for themselves.

If someone on the left says something dumb - they speak for ALL.

Why do people keep falling for this POS' tactics?!?



It's not a " tactic ", but Leftists themselves saying the same thing, time and time again.

I know it pisses you off that your messiah is a failure.

I get that. I really do.

But frankly my dear, I don't give a damn.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Wednesday, December 18, 2013 10:41 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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She's the grande dame of Left wing corporate news in the media.
Oxymoron. Clearly, you have no idea of who "the left" is or what they stand for, or you would have never made such a ridiculous jumble of words. BTW, I consider myself to be a leftist (not a liberal- two different things) and I've never considered Obama to be anything like a lord and savior, and I didn't even vote for him.

1) So please, for the love of god, stop talking about "the left". You clearly have NO IDEA who you're talking about, and

2) Don't say "never", "always", "everybody (all)", or "nobody" unless you can show there aren't any exceptions. That's black-and-white thinking, and the world just isn't black and white for the most part.

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Thursday, December 19, 2013 2:26 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


"... But when it's been shown, time and time again, how members of the Left and centre ALL repeat the same thing, over and over again ..."

I'm sure you can give us many examples since this has happened time and time again.

I'll wait.


As evidence of "rape mentality"

Tuesday, July 30, 2013 8:11 PM
MAL4PREZ
And just remember, according to Rappy, the term befitting a women who wants the insurance she pays for to cover medications affecting her reproductive organs is

whore

Wednesday, July 31, 2013 4:23 PM
little rappy
The term applies.


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Thursday, December 19, 2013 8:02 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
"... But when it's been shown, time and time again, how members of the Left and centre ALL repeat the same thing, over and over again ..."

I'm sure you can give us many examples since this has happened time and time again.

I'll wait.



You've already had your homework done for you once. Not gonna happen twice.


And Siggy, the word isn't 'oxymoron', but "redundant". The corporate MSM IS predominantly Left wing. Maybe not as radical as your precious 99% Occubabies, but they still lean undeniably Left.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Thursday, December 19, 2013 9:40 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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And Siggy, the word isn't 'oxymoron', but "redundant" . The corporate MSM IS predominantly Left wing. Maybe not as radical as your precious 99% Occubabies, but they still lean undeniably Left.
Perhaps you don't know the meaning of the word "left" (as in political stance), or the word "corporate", or the word "oxymoron"*. So let me help you out:

Oxymoron is a figure of speech in which incongruous or seemingly contradictory terms appear side by side. In this case, the terms are corporate and left.

The left in political economic terms, occupies the landscape between anti-corporate and Marxist. Corporate is the intended target of the left. Therefore, any combination of those terms automatically becomes an oxymoron.

There is ANOTHER political stance that occupies that ground that you're thinking of, it's called liberalism. Liberals want to ameliorate capitalism because they want capitalism to survive. Like leftists, they believe that capitalism will destroy itself if left to its own devices, therefore wealth redistribution, unemployment, and other other aspects of the social safety net are mere devices to allow capitalism to continue. So it's possible to be a liberal corporatist, but not a leftist corporatist. Capisce?

So maybe, when you talk about "the left" you will do so a little more intelligently in the future.


* Kind of like when you didn't know the word - or the concept - "supersede" when discussing UN Resolutions, specifically as related to Iraq).

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Thursday, December 19, 2013 12:22 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Soggy - your lame attempts to patronize me are cute and feckless.

Also, Babs didn't say *I*, she said * WE *.

She's not just speaking for herself.



Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Thursday, December 19, 2013 12:30 PM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
You know, no ONE person speaks for an entire group. We all get that.



You should have stopped there, but instead you go on an show that you infact don't get it.

Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
But when it's been shown, time and time again, how members of the Left and centre ALL repeat the same thing, over and over again, a clearer and clearer image emerges. It stops being mere isolated incidents and random comments, and more valid.

I get why some would not like to admit it, but in the face of overwhelming facts and evidence, it's beyond a moot point.

You really do look silly in trying to deny it.



A moot point is one that is meaningless...so you are saying that your point is meaningless.

Post what a few people have said is not overwhelming evidence. You said it yourself....

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
You know, no ONE person speaks for an entire group.





I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Thursday, December 19, 2013 12:41 PM

STORYMARK


Not all, just ALL.

In all caps, even.

How stupid is this fuck?






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Thursday, December 19, 2013 12:43 PM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
"... But when it's been shown, time and time again, how members of the Left and centre ALL repeat the same thing, over and over again ..."

I'm sure you can give us many examples since this has happened time and time again.

I'll wait.



Of course he won't - he'll just claim he did, like he always does.

Meanwhile, when presented with equal examples from the right - he'll ignore them, or more likely exit the thread to repeat his lies elsewhere.




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Thursday, December 19, 2013 2:20 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


ALL the examples given per Obama & his divinity.

How stupid are you, dumbass.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

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Thursday, December 19, 2013 2:23 PM

M52NICKERSON

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Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
ALL the examples given per Obama & his divinity.



So now you think Obama is divine?

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Thursday, December 19, 2013 2:35 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Nope

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Thursday, December 19, 2013 2:38 PM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
ALL the examples given per Obama & his divinity.

How stupid are you, dumbass.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall



Yes, individuals saying isolated things, which you pretend represent the entire left.

That thing you said you didn't say - and then said in the same post.

Your idiocy truly know no bottom depth.




"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Thursday, December 19, 2013 2:39 PM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:

Of course he won't - he'll just claim he did, like he always does.

Meanwhile, when presented with equal examples from the right - he'll ignore them, or more likely exit the thread to repeat his lies elsewhere.






I love how he never hesitates to prove me 100% right.




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Thursday, December 19, 2013 2:55 PM

BIGDAMNNOBODY


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:

Of course he won't - he'll just claim he did, like he always does.

Meanwhile, when presented with equal examples from the right - he'll ignore them, or more likely exit the thread to repeat his lies elsewhere.






I love how he never hesitates to prove me 100% right.


You really don't have much else going on in your life, do you?

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Thursday, December 19, 2013 4:18 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by BIGDAMNNOBODY:
Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:

Of course he won't - he'll just claim he did, like he always does.

Meanwhile, when presented with equal examples from the right - he'll ignore them, or more likely exit the thread to repeat his lies elsewhere.



I love how he never hesitates to prove me 100% right.


You really don't have much else going on in your life, do you?



What's truly amazing is that Storybook is so damn oblivious of this ENTIRE THREAD , where I cite multiple example of the Left claiming Obama is divine, and yes, I DO claim I did ( that's what this thread if all about in the first place ) he's so damn cross eyed with hate and stubborn phony pride , he simply can't come to grips that I'm right and he knows it.

So, no...he doesn't have anything going on besides obsessing over me. I'm living totally rent free in his head, as well as a few others here. And trust me, there's PLENTY of empty, wide open spaces. ROFLMAO !!


Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Thursday, December 19, 2013 4:27 PM

M52NICKERSON

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Nope



Than why would you say...

Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
ALL the examples given per Obama & his divinity.



...that indicates you do. Your statement indicates that all your examples have been given by Obama and his god like status.

Perhaps you should be more clear on what you mean.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Thursday, December 19, 2013 4:47 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


It indicates no such thing.

The examples I'm giving are PROOF that the Left views Obama as divine, not I.

How is this not made crystal clear to you ?

I know Obama to be the spoiled little Marxist, who never held a real job in his entire life, skirted any real responsibility and accountability , and only got elected because he was, as his VP once said, a " clean and articulate " black man.

Obama is a complete fraud, and nothing more.


Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Thursday, December 19, 2013 5:07 PM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by BIGDAMNNOBODY:
Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:

Of course he won't - he'll just claim he did, like he always does.

Meanwhile, when presented with equal examples from the right - he'll ignore them, or more likely exit the thread to repeat his lies elsewhere.






I love how he never hesitates to prove me 100% right.


You really don't have much else going on in your life, do you?



Other than work, family, a social life, and filmmaking (up for an award as we speak), not too much, I suppose. I certainly have enough time to laugh at idiots like you and rappy.

How about you? You seem to have plenty of time to come here too, but with none of the enjoyment, as you always seem so bitter and angry.

So, it seems I have a lot more going for me than you, nobody.

OH! That probably explains why you try so hard to one-up me, and always fail. Epiphany!

Im sorry for you.





"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Thursday, December 19, 2013 5:18 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



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Unlike Palin, who was anointed before an entire congregation (anyone remember this?)


Anyone remember THIS ??



HILLARY CLINTON RECEIVING BLESSING FROM A SHAMAN

This picture is truly worth 1,000 words. Here, we see Hillary being "blessed" by a Native American shaman, giving her a traditional American blessing. Native American spirituality is quite the rage these days, as you can see for yourself by going into a New Age bookstore, where you will find so many books touting their old religion. The reason New Agers and witches of all stripes are really "into" Native American spirituality is that the Native Indians practiced an Earth Mother worship very close to our current New Age. In fact, Native Americans are held up continuously as supreme examples of an entire nation "living close to Nature", in "perfect harmony and balance". Hillary would have had no trouble allowing a Native American shaman bless her and pray over her.



Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Thursday, December 19, 2013 8:48 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


"individuals saying isolated things, which you pretend represent the entire left." It will always be that way. I've posted at least as many instances of people on the right, from Bush to Senators to potential presidential candidates, who have been seen as a "messiah" by various people on the right, but that will never mean anything to Rap. Why keep at it? He will keep right up with his "AGW is a cult", "Bush never lied", "there were WMD" and "The Left thinks Obama is God" for ever and ever, no matter what. It's what he DOES. Why engage him?

"giving her a traditional American blessing". Not surprisingly, Rap doesn't understand the difference between a "blessing" and "being anointed". Who's surprised?


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Thursday, December 19, 2013 9:42 PM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
It indicates no such thing.

The examples I'm giving are PROOF that the Left views Obama as divine, not I.

How is this not made crystal clear to you ?



...because that is not what you said. You really need to learn how to write.

Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:I know Obama to be the spoiled little Marxist, who never held a real job in his entire life, skirted any real responsibility and accountability , and only got elected because he was, as his VP once said, a " clean and articulate " black man.

Obama is a complete fraud, and nothing more.



Well being President of the United States is a real as it gets, and has about the most responsibility of any job on the planet.

As for a fraud, he got elected by a majority of the voters in the US and has accomplished things in office that few other Presidents have. He is about as real as it gets.

So again you are totally wrong.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Thursday, December 19, 2013 10:37 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Not totally wrong, in the least. Obama is the least qualified of any President in the past 100 years, if not longer. And it shows.

Being elected doesn't make one qualified.

I'm totally right here.

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"giving her a traditional American blessing". Not surprisingly, Rap doesn't understand the difference between a "blessing" and "being anointed". Who's surprised?


It's all religious hocus pocus anyways. But it's only an issue for you if anyone on the right does it, while it's perfectly fine when it happens to someone on the Left.

wacko.

Oh,and Niki ? Those folks who claim W was some sort of god send, they were themselves religious zealots. If it rains after a brief dry spell, they'll praise god. It's not in the least surprising they'd think a victory for their side is 'divine', but only because it means the country won't go down the drain, as we're seeing happen w/ Obama.

However, same can't be said for Barbara Walters, etc... They're not religious to any great extent, they just want to worship their fine, neat and articulate Marxist. It really is totally different. As I've plainly shown in this thread.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Friday, December 20, 2013 11:20 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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And Siggy, the word isn't 'oxymoron', but "redundant" . The corporate MSM IS predominantly Left wing. Maybe not as radical as your precious 99% Occubabies, but they still lean undeniably Left. -RAPPY

Perhaps you don't know the meaning of the word "left" (as in political stance), or the word "corporate", or the word "oxymoron"*. So let me help you out:
Oxymoron is a figure of speech in which incongruous or seemingly contradictory terms appear side by side. In this case, the terms are corporate and left.
The left in political economic terms, occupies the landscape between anti-corporate and Marxist. Corporate is the intended target of the left. Therefore, any combination of those terms automatically becomes an oxymoron.
There is ANOTHER political stance that occupies that ground that you're thinking of, it's called liberalism. Liberals want to ameliorate capitalism because they want capitalism to survive. Like leftists, they believe that capitalism will destroy itself if left to its own devices, therefore wealth redistribution, unemployment, and other other aspects of the social safety net are mere devices to allow capitalism to continue. So it's possible to be a liberal corporatist, but not a leftist corporatist. Capisce?
So maybe, when you talk about "the left" you will do so a little more intelligently in the future.- SIGNY

Soggy - your lame attempts to patronize me are cute and feckless.




I wasn't trying to patronize you, I was trying to educate you, because all you see of the large group who is NOT YOU is "leftists". But there are anti-capitalist/Marxist leftists and pro-capitalist liberals and liberal corporations, and there are pro-government corporations who aren't liberal because they're fascist. There are also anti-government (libertarian) corporations. These groups all have different aims.

So, you saw "patronizing" in that attempt to educate? Nope, but NOW I'm patronizing you, you dolt. I should have known that trying to educate you was feckless.

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Also, Babs didn't say *I*, she said * WE *.She's not just speaking for herself.... However, same can't be said for Barbara Walters, etc... They're not religious to any great extent, they just want to worship their fine, neat and articulate Marxist.-RAPPY
So she said "we". Who the fuck cares who she "thinks" she's speaking for? First of all, you don't know who she thinks she's speaking for. And secondly, you don't know if she's accurately representing anyone but herself.

Your very own thread title demonstrates the same misuse: Our Lord and Savior. OUR Lord and Savior? Who the fuck do YOU think you're representing? I can just as easily say: All of us Tea Partiers worship Limbaugh. There, I said "all of us". Does that make me correct? Am I really representing all TPers? My god, rappy, what do you have for brains? Soggy turds? (Shakes head)

As far as Obama being "Marxist", I double dog dare you to provide a brief summary of Marxism right here, and then quote Obama referencing Marxism. Prove to us that you have a glimmer of what you're talking about. (I can guarantee that what you'll say is I don't have to prove that I know what I'm talking about!)



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Friday, December 20, 2013 12:03 PM

STORYMARK


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My god, rappy, what do you have for brains? Soggy turds?


I think you over-estimate him.




"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Friday, December 20, 2013 12:33 PM

MAL4PREZ


Rappy yet again serves as an example of the flawed thinking process of the RWA brain. His "logical" process:

Step 1 Start with the CONCLUSION: liberals worship Obama.

Step 2 Consider the EVIDENCE: all observations that agree with the statement step 1 are accepted. All which do not are dismissed as incorrect or inapplicable or outliers.

Step 3 ERGO, all evidence supports the conclusion and therefore the conclusion is upheld.

Funny how this process always makes him think he's right, huh? Gods bless him, he is entertaining. ;)


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The French Revolution would have never happened if Marie Antoinette had just given every peasant an iPhone.

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Friday, December 20, 2013 12:35 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


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Obama is the least qualified of any President in the past 100 years, if not longer.


I would dare Rap to show proof of that, only I know he wouldn't touch it with a ten-foot pole, it might require ACTUAL, you know, debate, with facts and stuff. Just as I know he wouldn't be caught DEAD taking up Sig's dare to "provide a brief summary of Marxism right here, and then quote Obama referencing Marxism."

By the way, nobody seems to have noticed, but Rap has now EXPANDED his claim of who views Obama as a "God":
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But when it's been shown, time and time again, how members of the Left and centre ALL repeat the same thing, over and over again.


We really need to save that one: MEMBERS OF THE LEFT AND CENTER ALL REPEAT THE SAME THING. How much clearer can he get? How much more do you want to go on wasting your time trying to "reason" with him?

Until and unless Rap shows one IOTA of willingness to address all the people on the right who have referred to various right-wing politicians as "god" or "messiah" or "Jesus"--which he never, ever will, he will always dismiss each of them as an "individual", or a religious nutcase, or anything else he can come up with which means "they don't count"--and given the idiocy he's spouted, why does anyone continue to bother?

This entire concept is the height of ridiculousness. There will always be those out there who view someone they admire greatly as "more than human". People on the left have done it, people on the right have done it, and none of them speak for The Left or The Right. They speak for themselves--tho' it's obviously impossible for Rap to grasp, EVEN when they say "we". End of story.


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Friday, December 20, 2013 4:41 PM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Not totally wrong, in the least. Obama is the least qualified of any President in the past 100 years, if not longer. And it shows.

Being elected doesn't make one qualified.



You should compare Obama's qualifications with that of Lincolns and get back to me.

Now that being said the only true qualifications for President of the United States are being a natural born citizen of the US and 35 years of age or older.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Friday, December 20, 2013 5:06 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


MAL4: Indeed. I hope to break that cycle by making rappy aware that he cherry-picks his facts (STEP 2) incessantly. However, so far he hasn't had the mental capacity to figure that out.

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Friday, December 20, 2013 5:16 PM

STORYMARK


He knows. He does it on purpose.

People haven't figured it out? He's a troll. A right wing caricature, more interested in making it about himself than actual discussion.




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Friday, December 20, 2013 5:33 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Yanno, I don't think so. I think rappy has a full-on delusion, an addiction to his ideas, where he gets all charged up with a jolt of dopamine whenever he argues a stupid rightwing point. There are plenty of sincere people just like that: look at all of those loony-tunes religious folk. They're not trolls, they really believe in their idiocies.

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Friday, December 20, 2013 6:29 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Some folks tried dismiss me, for pointing out how the Left views this man.

They were just hiding from the truth, as usual.

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Jamie Foxx calls Barack Obama 'our lord and savior'

Appearing on Sunday night's Soul Train awards in Las Vegas, Oscar-winning actor Jamie Foxx called Barack Obama "our lord and savior."

"It's like church over here. It's like church in here. First of all, give an honor to God and our lord and savior Barack Obama. Barack Obama,"

http://www.examiner.com/article/jamie-foxx-calls-barack-obama-our-lord
-and-savior





I think this just demonstrates how religious discourse has infiltrated US politics. Not that Jamie Foxx is a politican, but the whole discussion around politics is seeped with religious references.

I say this coming from a very secular society, where religion is not evoked in political discussions. But I see that it happens quite a lot in the US. It's either thanking god, evoking god or comparing someone to god.

And the whole presidential thing. It kind of lends itself to that, don't you think. The whole pomp and power of that role. if you didn't feel divinely inspired before you got there, youd have a hell of a time NOT feeling like some sort of messiah.

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Friday, December 20, 2013 8:33 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by MAL4PREZ:
Rappy yet again serves as an example of the flawed thinking process of the RWA brain. His "logical" process:

Step 1 Start with the CONCLUSION: liberals worship Obama.

No, starting with a conclusion is what the LEFT does ( as well as young earth creationists ) , when it comes to matters of politics posing as science.

Obama is " sort of God " - Evan Thomas. That's where it got started, genius.


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Step 2 Consider the EVIDENCE: all observations that agree with the statement step 1 are accepted. All which do not are dismissed as incorrect or inapplicable or outliers.



1 example isn't enough for you. Nor is 2, 3, 4, 5... it seems nothing will convince you. Maybe if I made a computer model, predicting how the Left MIGHT see Obama as God, would that do it ?

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Step 3 ERGO, all evidence supports the conclusion and therefore the conclusion is upheld.



The conclusion was reached BECAUSE OF THE EVIDENCE, not t'other way 'round.

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Funny how this process always makes him think he's right, huh? Gods bless him, he is entertaining. ;)




And you're getting all this entertainment for free. I should start charging your asses for this, as there are no free lunches, right ?

Still laughing ?

( That'll be another $ 0.99 )

@ Siggy - I already know all that you're trying to allegedly teach me. Have known it for many years. You're patronizing me, and it's pretty weak sauce on your part.




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Friday, December 20, 2013 8:54 PM

MAL4PREZ


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I think rappy has a full-on delusion...



No, as his most recent post [ETA: one before the most recent since I started composing this, which is now two back] proves, that ain't the case. Any real human would note that every single damned poster on this board who might possibly lean left or liberal has criticized O, sometimes even in a blistering way. No one on this board has EVER stated anything like worship for Obama. (Counter this with the way RWAs talked of W when he was in office...)

And yet the Rap posts what he just did?

No simple denial wall in the brain can accomplish such a feat of delusion. There's no possible way. "Rap" exists on this board solely to get reactions, and he gets the reactions by posting obviously wrong BS. How can anyone resist reacting to someone who claims that 2 + 2 = 5? This is what the "Rap" does, what he's done for years. Somehow, it continues to get him the attention he craves.

It's illuminating that it consistently gets him reactions from certain posters who ought to know better.

I wonder what would happen if this site ever limited every IP address to only one account. Oh, it might be hard on *many* posters...


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Friday, December 20, 2013 8:56 PM

STORYMARK


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yanno, I don't think so. I think rappy has a full-on delusion, an addiction to his ideas, where he gets all charged up with a jolt of dopamine whenever he argues a stupid rightwing point. There are plenty of sincere people just like that: look at all of those loony-tunes religious folk. They're not trolls, they really believe in their idiocies.



I suppose that could be... I just have trouble believing he's for real most of the time. I mean, sure, he's clearly on the far, far right... but it also seems like he "turns it up to 11" for the attention.




"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Friday, December 20, 2013 8:58 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Your very own thread title demonstrates the same misuse: Our Lord and Savior. OUR Lord and Savior? Who the fuck do YOU think you're representing? I can just as easily say: All of us Tea Partiers worship Limbaugh. There, I said "all of us". Does that make me correct? Am I really representing all TPers? My god, rappy, what do you have for brains? Soggy turds? (Shakes head)




Very first line of the quoted text at the start of the thread -

"Jamie Foxx calls Barack Obama 'our lord and savior' "

Reading is fundamental.



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As far as Obama being "Marxist", I double dog dare you to provide a brief summary of Marxism right here, and then quote Obama referencing Marxism. Prove to us that you have a glimmer of what you're talking about. (I can guarantee that what you'll say is I don't have to prove that I know what I'm talking about!)





Why, so you can ignore the evidence that's been shown and is readily available, for anyone not blind enough to see it, since before Obama was elected ?

I'll pass.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

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Friday, December 20, 2013 9:35 PM

STORYMARK


See?




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Friday, December 20, 2013 9:40 PM

MAL4PREZ


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Originally posted by Storymark:
See?



Oh I see, def. Especially how Rap missed the part where it says "Jamie Foxx"

No, "he" didn't miss it, actually. Taking a comedian seriously is just part of "his" troll.


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Friday, December 20, 2013 10:07 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


OH, you mean a COMEDIAN said something! Oh, well! For a while I thought you were serious!

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Why, so you can ignore the evidence that's been shown and is readily available, for anyone not blind enough to see it, since before Obama was elected ?
WHAT evidence? I haven't seen any, and you haven't brought any.

So I have some questions for you: Would a Marxist bail out banks? Would a Marxist bail out an corporate automobile manufacturer? Push "free trade"?

Do you KNOW what Marxism is??? And WHAT are you smoking, child?

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Friday, December 20, 2013 11:10 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



It's so prevalent to the Left, that Obama IS viewed as a " messiah ", that Jamie Fox, COMEDIAN, can joke about it, because of that very fact.

IT'S SO WIDELY KNOWN AND UNDERSTOOD, THAT EVERYONE KNOWS IT ! That's why Jamie can make fun of it !

Gawd, y'all aren't truly this dense and joyless, are you ?

( Why do I ask questions to which I already know the answers ? )

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WHAT evidence? I haven't seen any, and you haven't brought any.


You only see what you want to see.


And to answer your questions, yes. A Marxist WOULD do those things, knowing his " fundamental transformation " couldn't be done over night, and would take 10-20 years. He said exactly that about destroying our Healthcare, and eventually going to full govt control This is only the 1st step. It's designed to fail, and Obama has known this all along. That's why he blatantly lied about " if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor, period. ". ( I swear, if the writers of Dr Who wanted to , they could needle the hell out of Obama with that line. But they won't. )

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Saturday, December 21, 2013 9:19 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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It's so prevalent to the Left, that Obama IS viewed as a " messiah ", that Jamie Fox, COMEDIAN, can joke about it, because of that very fact.
If it's so "widely understood" that "leftists" view Obama as "OUR lord and savior", why have I not heard a single leftist breathe those words? Not a one.

You see, rappy, YOU DON'T KNOW what a leftist is. YOU DON'T KNOW any leftists either. Therefore, YOU DON'T KNOW what leftists are saying. And with every post, you make that more and more clear: your views on the topic are feckless. So, why don't you go VISIT a couple of leftist wesbsites? Yanno, get a frigging clue, so at least you won't look like such a gasbag.
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WHAT evidence? I haven't seen any, and you haven't brought any. -Signy
You only see what you want to see. -rappy


Aaaaaaand... You still haven't brought any. Therefore, I conclude there is none to be had. (And BTW, as a representative of your viewpoint, you suck.)
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And to answer your questions, yes. A Marxist WOULD do those things, knowing his " fundamental transformation " couldn't be done over night, and would take 10-20 years.
Going to google and picking up one phrase won't help you pretend to understand Marxism. Try again.

But OOC, looking at historical examples, when have you seen socialism take the evolutionary approach? Russia? Cuba? Venezuela?

Seriously, child, do you really think you're convincing anyone (other than yourself) with this pastiche of Limbaugh and wiki? May I repeat that, as a representative of your viewpoint, you suck?

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Saturday, December 21, 2013 9:33 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


"He's a troll. A right wing caricature, more interested in making it about himself than actual discussion." Yeah, I keep getting trapped into viewing him as a person, particularly because he can come across LIKE real human being, on things outside politics. But then I get reminded…he's not here to discuss, he NEVER "discusses", he just makes statements…the crazier the better…and sticks to them like glue.

There's a very simple response to his "overwhelming evidence" bit, which of course will go nowhere. How many examples could we so easily put up of Republicans--including politicians, pundits and GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS, who have claimed creationism should be viewed as valid…that homosexuality is connected to bestiality…that slavery was good for Blacks…think of all the absurd statements SOME people on the right have made from time to time. By his "logic", that should prove ALL conservatives, ALL on The Right, believe these things. Simple as that. Yet we all know it doesn't, we all know it's a small number of misguided people who believe those things. But no logic will ever reach Rap; as long as people keep responding to him, it's all he wants.

"How can anyone resist reacting to someone who claims that 2 + 2 = 5?"--That's the crux of it for me, Mal4. When I see the sheer insanity he writes, my instinct is always to say "no, wait a minute, you can't really mean THAT! See…" and I'm lost. It's extremely hard to keep reminding myself that responding is totally useless.

Everywhere else I am on the internet, people want to converse. They want to communicate, to share ideas, inform, be informed, enjoy one another's company and yes, definitely agree/disagree/debate/argue as WELL, but not exclusively. It's very hard to make the switch to this place, where some people's ONLY purpose for being here is to spew political bullshit, defend that political bullshit no matter how little sense it makes, and trigger other people into responding, with absolutely no desire to actually communicate.

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I think this just demonstrates how religious discourse has infiltrated US politics. Not that Jamie Foxx is a politican, but the whole discussion around politics is seeped with religious references.

I say this coming from a very secular society, where religion is not evoked in political discussions. But I see that it happens quite a lot in the US. It's either thanking god, evoking god or comparing someone to god.

And the whole presidential thing. It kind of lends itself to that, don't you think. The whole pomp and power of that role. if you didn't feel divinely inspired before you got there, youd have a hell of a time NOT feeling like some sort of messiah.



You make an excellent point, too, Magons; one I forget because the only politics I see/hear/read for the most part is America's. But when I step back and look at it/think about it, your point is quite valid. We have a problem with religion in this country, no question about it.


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Saturday, December 21, 2013 9:44 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Yanno, AFA religion seeping 100% into politics, there is one phrase that drives me nuts bc it is found at the end of nearly every political speech: "And, God bless America".

Like "god" would really give shite about some pompous, blasphemous, nation-state-cum-empire. It's kinda like... yanno... asking god to give your football team the big win or something. Less meaningful than Dear god, PLEASE help me pass this turd! Sheesh.

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Saturday, December 21, 2013 9:56 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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It's so prevalent to the Left, that Obama IS viewed as a " messiah ", that Jamie Fox, COMEDIAN, can joke about it, because of that very fact.
If it's so "widely understood" that "leftists" view Obama as "OUR lord and savior", why have I not heard a single leftist breathe those words? Not a one.



That's like the famous line... "How could Nixon have won? Nobody I know voted for him".

Sounds like a YOU problem then. News folks like Walters and Newsweek Editor Evan Thomas seemed to have their fingers on the pulse of Leftists.

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You see, rappy, YOU DON'T KNOW what a leftist is. YOU DON'T KNOW any leftists either. Therefore, YOU DON'T KNOW what leftists are saying. And with every post, you make that more and more clear: your views on the topic are feckless. So, why don't you go VISIT a couple of leftist wesbsites? Yanno, get a frigging clue, so at least you won't look like such a gasbag.



Know them well, don't have to visit their websites again. Been there, done that.

You've been shown ample evidence, and yet you continue to ignore. My not being able to convince you that the sun rises in the East does not change anything. Whether you believe it or not, the sun still does rise in the East. So it is with this topic.

ETA - I find it funny that you think I had to resort to Google to recall a quote by Obama which indicates his Marxist leanings. I didn't, as I remember him saying that, right before the election, but still, YOU think I needed to do such a search, and that it indeed DID yield such a result. That only shows how much you know, deep down, that I'm right,.

Selah.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

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Saturday, December 21, 2013 10:06 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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Sounds like a YOU problem then. News folks like Walters and Newsweek Editor Evan Thomas seemed to have their fingers on the pulse of Leftists.
HAHAHAHAHA! I think the key point is that they SEEMED TO know (according to you). Well, then, that's what you get for basing your opinions on subjective appearances and not on fact. But you make that mistake a lot.

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Know them [leftist websites] well, don't have to visit their websites again. Been there, done that.
Oh, really?
Name some.

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You've been shown ample evidence
Yes, I have, but not by you. The evidence I've seen is Obama's actions, and they aren't the actions of a leftist or Marxist by any means. If I had to pick a political economic camp for Obama it would be... well, since you know this all so well, I'll leave it to you to figure out.

And BTW, you STILL suck at representing "your side". Maybe you should get someone else in here to represent you.

ETA to your ETA -
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I find it funny that you think I had to resort to Google to recall a quote by Obama
WTF? Lots of ppl talk about fundamentally transforming society. But not Marxists. They talk about revolution. And, as far as I can tell, Obama has not fundamentally transformed anything, at least not in a socialist direction. The banks control more money than before, the corporations dominate politics more than ever, people are poorer than before. So, where's the socialism/ Marxism that you keep whining about? Like I said before, as far as I can tell, Obama falls into the camp of... well, but you know this all anyway, so (from your vast store of knowledge) what do you suppose a leftist might say?

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Sunday, December 22, 2013 10:41 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


So, to recap. Rappy starts out under the title Our lord and savior - Barack Obama. by saying
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Some folks tried dismiss me, for pointing out how the Left views this man
He then goes on the quote a comedian Jamie Foxx, Baba Wawa, and Newsweek to bolster his claim about the Left but ... after dozens of posts and a few thousand views... goes on to demonstrate over and over again that he doesn't know what "the left" is or how "the left" actually views Obama or what "the left" says about him. In other words, he knows nothing about what he posted about. As usual. This thread deserves to die. Can someone blow taps?

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